Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 490 › Conversation 490-011
Nixon, Scott & Ford on Lockheed Corporation and Anti-war protests
Tuesday, May 4, 1971 · 10:04 AM–10:12 AM ET · Oval Office ·7 min
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President Nixon met with Republican congressional leadership, including Hugh Scott and Gerald Ford, to coordinate the administration’s messaging on key domestic and economic issues. The discussion focused on framing the recent mass arrests of anti-war protesters as a necessary measure to maintain public order against vandalism. Additionally, the President urged the leaders to publicly support the Lockheed loan guarantee as a critical initiative for protecting peacetime jobs, aiming to preempt political opposition from Democratic rivals.
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NARA Description
On May 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, Clark MacGregor, Herbert G. Klein, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:04 am to 10:12 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 490-011 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 490-11
Date: May 4, 1971
Time: 10:04 am - 10:12 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, Clark MacGregor, and
Herbert G. Klein; this recording begins at an unknown time while the meeting is in progress.
[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
Ronald L. Ziegler entered at an unknown time during the transcribed portion.
President's previous meeting with Republican leadership
-Administration's domestic program
-Revenue sharing
-Public relations
-Leaders statement
-Lockheed
-Leaders comments
-John B. Connally and President's remarks
-Employment
-President’s view
-“Peacetime jobs”
-Ziegler's possible statement
-Statement by leadership
-Connally’s forthcoming statement
-Birch Bayh, John V. Tunney, Hubert H. Humphrey, and
Conv.
Edmund
No. 490-24
S. Muskie
(cont.)
-Supersonic Transport [SST]
[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
[General conversation]
Klein's appearance on "Morning Show"
Scott, Ford, Arends, MacGregor, Ziegler and Klein left at 10:12 am.Also recorded on May 4, 1971
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- 055-004 8:04 AM — President Richard M. Nixon, Spiro T. Agnew, and Republican Congressional leaders, including John N. Irwin, II, John B. Connally, Melvin R. Laird, Hugh Scott, Robert P. Griffin, Margaret Chase Smith, Gordon L. Allott, Norris Cotton, Milton R. Young, John G. Tower, Gerald R. Ford, Leslie C. Arends, John B. Anderson, John J. Rhodes, Richard H. Poff, Robert C. ("Bob") Wilson, Barber B. Conable, Jr., Robert T. Stafford, H. Allen Smith, Frank T. Bow, William B. Widnall, George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman, Clark MacGregor, Kenneth R. BeLieu, Herbert G. Klein, Ronald L. Ziegler, Patrick J. Buchanan, and Bryce N. Harlow, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 8:04 am to 10:04 am.
- 490-012 10:12 AM · 18 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:12 am to 10:30 am.
- 055-005 10:30 AM — President Richard M. Nixon and members of the President's Commission on School Finance and the President's Panel on Nonpublic Education, including Neil H. McElroy, William G. Colman, Hilda A. Davis, Dorothy M. L. Ford, Eugene Gonzales, David H. Kurtzman, Rev. William E. McManus, Wendell H. Pierce, William G. Saltonstall, William B. Thompson, Clarence Walton, Ivan E. Zylstra, Norman Karsh, Clint Pace, Terrel H. Bell, John R. Ottina, Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, Joseph B. White, Phillips Grace, Paul H. O'Neill, John D. Ehrlichman, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., Edward L. Morgan, and Dr. Sidney P. Marland, Jr., met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 10:30 am to 11:36 am.
- 490-013 10:30 AM · 36 sec — Stephen B. Bull and United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 11:36 am.
- 490-014 11:38 AM · 23 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, David Packard, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:38 am to 12:03 pm.
- 490-015 12:03 PM · 2 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:03 pm.
- 490-016 12:03 PM · 29 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Charles W. Colson, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:03 pm to 12:35 pm.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 490-011, May 4, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/490-011 (accessed September 18, 2026).