{"conversationCode":"490-013","tapeNumber":490,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-490-013","startDateTime":"1971-05-04T14:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-04T15:36:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1971","startTime":"10:30 AM","endDate":"4-May-1971","endTime":"11:36 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Bull, Stephen B.; United States Secret Service agents;","description":"On May 4, 1971, Stephen B. Bull and United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 11:36 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 490-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 490-13\n\nDate: May 4, 1971\n\nTime: Unknown between 10:30 am and 11:36 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nStephen B. Bull and unknown people (Secret Services agents) entered.\n\n**********************************************************************\n[Previous non-historical (H) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 11/12/2019. Segment\ncleared for release.]\n[Non-Historical]\n[490-013-w001]\n[Duration: 35s]\n\n[This portion of the tape is mostly room noise with some muffled background conversation.]\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nThe conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 11:36 am.","filename":["490-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:39:12","tapeEnd":"01:40:01","participantsList":["Bull, Stephen B.","United States Secret Service agents"],"prevCode":"490-012","nextCode":"490-014","transcript":[{"start":0.17,"end":1,"text":"Struck, I was."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Stephen B. Bull met with United States Secret Service agents in the Oval Office to discuss unspecified operational matters. The recording consists primarily of ambient room noise and muffled background conversation, rendering the content historically inconclusive. No significant decisions or developments were captured during this brief segment.","topics":["Secret Service","Oval Office operations","White House security","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:01:21.531Z"},"topicSlugs":["secret-service","oval-office-operations","white-house-security","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"490-013.mp3","bytes":1439660,"durationSec":35.84,"bitrate":321310,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.989Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/490-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/490-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/490/conversation-490-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}