{"conversationCode":"491-002","tapeNumber":491,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-491-002","startDateTime":"1971-04-28T15:37:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-28T15:42:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Apr-1971","startTime":"11:37 AM","endDate":"28-Apr-1971","endTime":"11:42 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:37 am and 11:42 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 491-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 491-2\n\nDate: April 28, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 11:37 am and 11:42 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     President's schedule\n           -Upcoming press photograph\n                 -Timing\n                 -Meeting\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:42 am.","filename":["491-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:20:18","tapeEnd":"00:21:07","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"491-001","nextCode":"491-003","transcript":[{"start":0.45,"end":10.43,"text":"President, the photograph will be at the end of this meeting."},{"start":10.45,"end":12.05,"text":"It's only a 10-minute meeting."},{"start":12.07,"end":12.31,"text":"So I..."},{"start":12.34,"end":14.6,"text":"The press photograph will be... Oh, yeah."},{"start":14.62,"end":16.1,"text":"Just bring it in a quarter to 12, sir, and that will conclude the meeting."},{"start":16.12,"end":16.66,"text":"Do you want more than that?"},{"start":16.68,"end":16.98,"text":"No, no."},{"start":17,"end":17.55,"text":"Just bring it in a quarter."},{"start":17.57,"end":17.79,"text":"Well, good."},{"start":17.81,"end":18.01,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":18.37,"end":25.92,"text":"Five-minute meeting is supposed to be your intent."},{"start":25.94,"end":27.28,"text":"Well, a ten-minute meeting total, including the board of directors."},{"start":27.3,"end":27.82,"text":"Well, a little after four."},{"start":27.84,"end":30.49,"text":"Give me about six minutes, or two minutes, seven, just to tell you we've got to make the deadline for a second."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize scheduling logistics for an upcoming meeting and an associated press photograph. They coordinated the timing of these events to ensure they concluded within a strict ten-minute window. Bull confirmed the operational plan to manage the President's schedule effectively for the afternoon.","topics":["Presidential schedule","White House operations","Press photography","Time management","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:02:35.109Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","white-house-operations","press-photography","time-management","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":31,"audioFiles":[{"file":"491-002.mp3","bytes":1237995,"durationSec":30.82,"bitrate":321363,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.990Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/491-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/491-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/491/conversation-491-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}