Nixon, Ziegler & Cox on Photography and Howell Conant

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I'm sure it's not here yet.

All right.

He'll be on the way over in just about five minutes.

All right.

I'm going to kiss you.

I'm sure it'll make you happy.

This is how Kyle is a great photographer.

He's a good friend.

We sit around here and try to get some asshole shot.

What he gets in mind is that first of all, an informal shot is actually pretty clean by the office to see you.

You know, if you're just chatting with her over here, you may take her hand or something.

Just whatever you do, actually with her.

He'd get one of those in here.

Then we'll probably step outside here and even do like, you know, some closer in shots of the cover type thing.

This guy's great and nothing will run without our approval.

So you do know that.

House is quiet.

Yes, sir.

.

Sir, isn't your view, is it?

No, I don't think the praise of Christ, I don't give a goddamn bit of praise.

No, I agree with that.

I don't think there's any praise.

I don't think we should give the critics an opportunity to nod or to, you know, if the press gets rough, the press is going to go right back to the jobs.

Well, sure, sir.

Those people start to be malicious and vicious, sir.

Half of the effect that we don't hear of people that are against the war.

For Christ's sake, half of the government has cannons against the war.

Can't say that.

The White House has, what do they think?

Got to make a point.

And, you know what?

They're out of sight against the war.

They're out of sight against what we're doing.

That's what we're always talking about.

And of course, we have all sorts of clowns that are coming in here, you know.

the posture you've taken on this is you know conveying an understanding

All those who express themselves, but then in that posture, holding firm.

You know, things work out the way.

Right.

We didn't actually allow them to malign the Americans.

We're not going to allow them to malign us for bombing.

We couldn't allow them for civilian.

We're not going to allow them to malign the Americans.

We're there and all the rest to have a double standard.

Not to mention what the enemy's done.

If I got there, I'm going to find out.

I mean, where is there one of them?

Do any of those guys, for example, stand up and a flag goes by?

Do any of them?

Well, one or two of them.

No, no, no.

He's going to stand up.

That's right, that's like this.

All right.

In terms of what they had in mind, it was just a very casual picture here in the office.

You know what I'm saying?

They thought you were so lucky you got a body in the office.

We'll probably set it outside.

It's not too cold for him.

Where he would do some, you know, close range shots.

Okay.

Okay, that's a very lovely costume.

Thank you.

This is the one I was waiting for.

Oh, yes.

This is a photograph of Hal Connors, but the photographer's going to take it.

Oh, it is.

He liked it.

That's good.

Well, we'll have enough of it.

Unfortunately, we're going to come back Monday, but that's okay with you.

Oh, it's fine.

We'll just have a few days.

Three days.

That would be nice.

Thank you.

It could happen on the go.

Maybe, maybe.

All right, I need to call a doctor.

All right.

All the clients are pretty well done now.

I mean, they need education.

Yes, they need education.

Very, very good.

I need to call a doctor.

Now, maybe not this one, but one more.

Mr. President, you should get him, and I can take him to the door.

Hi there, how are you?

Nice to see you.

All right, thank you.

And he says this is one of yours.

Yes, very.

Right.

Well, you see, it's a place of honor.

Now, tell us what you'd like to do, because it will cooperate, except you can't.

We're going to do 10 shots, one inside, one outside, right?

The first one is kind of a moose shot, I think, with maybe nutrition standing by the window.

Good.

This one or one of these two here?

Yeah.

How do you like that?

Do you like to let it roll?

Or do you like it a little more?

Yeah, the way she's going to pull that back and pull up in her, so, you know, that's perfect.

Is there anything you want?

Yeah.

Is there anything you want?

Yeah.

It usually is just very, very cold.

Do you want more light in the room?

What?

Oh, I see.

Thank you.

This is a, uh, this is a, uh, is it real?

Yeah.

That's the bar.

Oh, that's great.

That was great.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

All right, Mr. Anderson, if I can, I want to include you here in the cameras here, you and the brothers and sisters.

Yeah, we have a real shutdown over here.

These lights are just not as deep as those can be.

They're kind of getting less and less.

People cannot go to sleep.

Mr. President, let's grab a little bit of a mood.

I'm just doing your daughter's talk.

It's a little bit here at the camera.

Uh, oh, I don't hear anything.

Oh, I hear nothing.

Okay.

Do you want to mull off on this?

Yeah.

I might be able to do that.

I better let it go.

Yeah.

There.

Wait a minute.

All right.

We've got to go through this technical nonsense.

All right.

It's a visual, but a visual.

It's been a good day for about three more days in a month.

Oh, boy, look what's going to get in the picture.

Look what's going to get in the picture.

I think it's just standing there.

This is a smash.

All right.

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

That's by the other one.

That's by the older field.

Oh, it's hard right now.

It's going click, click.

Very good.

Once again, the other camera.

Oh, this is great.

I usually have to start talking to relax Tricia by saying that I'm the world's greatest apocryphal.

Yeah, like the British black secretary of defense today.

Johnson, Johnny Johnson.

Yeah.

That's a spirit.

Good.

And maybe you can look out.

Go ahead, Trisha.

That's a spirit.

Like, where are you going to get married?

Here's a good idea.

Just a little closer to your palm, please.

That's a spirit, right?

All right.

Give it a chance.

Really quick.

You don't think you want to go over and see him?

That's a spirit.

Okay.

Uh, Mr. President, maybe just both of you look at each other, you know, for a couple.

Why, Charlie?

That's it.

And I think we're finished with that one.

Surely, uh, why don't some of them should be debated, we'll see.

We're still at the latter when you're both being angry.

That would be a great idea, you know?

Yeah, we changed it.

We're going to change it.

When you were talking at the press conference, Black was the first warrant officer in the Navy.

Oh yeah, I was the first Chief Warrant Officer in the Conqueror Reserve in the Navy.

He was a Marine.

This guy was a Marine, a warrant officer.

He was the first Negro and the first warrant officer in the Marine.

A lot of them now.

And now he's the first assistant secretary of the Navy who's blocked.

Now, other than him, he's not the assistant secretary of the Navy.

He's been really good.

But in favor this morning, he was the first black guy on CNN.

Well, he did.

We're not just trying to get him out.

We've got to get him out.

You're right up here to the girl.

We ought to say hello to her when we finish, too.

No, I'll see you tomorrow morning.

Yeah, I'll say hello to her.

I think it's better when we're in the middle of the picture and not the end of it.

Exactly.

That's what I'm saying.

We're going to have to admit it.

We're going to see her now.

All right.

I'll call you.

Why didn't you call me?

Because I had a picture of you.

I said, oh, yeah, that's right.

No?

Close the phone.

Would you like a cup of coffee?

Yes, please.

I just want you to take a look at yourself.

You look white today.

Do you?

Do you understand me?

Oh, this light is better.

Isn't it?

I remember that.

When you've got a heavy sunlight, it's pretty bright in the shadows.

We always draw a backboard or something.

I'll speak to you.

Stop it.

All right.

That's right, that's right.

Because I don't dye my hair.

I don't dye my hair.

But I have a dark color.

But why is it that when it got darker, people didn't get to see my hair?

They always watched me dye my hair.

This is a little closer to where it's at, maybe gray.

The dark tones, the dark tones are always beyond the time of the helping.

That's right.

They don't tell me.

They never tell me.

A lot of people are like that.

We'll get the main thing in the house in here.

You're in there.

I guess with my president's daughter, I'm going to get my age.

It's going to be four or five.

Or, I'm going to say, whatever.

Don't tell anybody.

Jack, don't tell anybody.

Eric, let's get clarity.

Let's get the secrets out.

Come on, everybody.

Let's get the secrets out.

Okay.

Here's how you get out.

Set that light up.

Move.

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