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(President)","Byrd, Harry F., Jr."],"prevCode":"491-015","nextCode":"491-017","transcript":[{"start":7.83,"end":10.63,"text":"Gary, how are you?"},{"start":11.93,"end":21.94,"text":"If our little animals went out, just call them and follow you up today."},{"start":21.96,"end":24.24,"text":"Well, this latest crew is a pretty destructive bunch, isn't it?"},{"start":24.26,"end":24.34,"text":"Yes."},{"start":24.59,"end":24.66,"text":"Yes."},{"start":24.79,"end":25.47,"text":"Well, I appreciate it."},{"start":25.49,"end":34.16,"text":"As a matter of fact, what I called to tell you is that I heard from Clark McGregor Buster called yesterday, and I'm most grateful for the announced situation."},{"start":34.86,"end":39.47,"text":"I appreciate it very much."},{"start":39.49,"end":47.06,"text":"As a matter of fact, this thing is the main thing, which we're all going to come out in the end as well."},{"start":47.08,"end":54.65,"text":"And we're just holding the course, and there'll be some good announcements as time goes on here."},{"start":54.67,"end":58.55,"text":"So you can be sure that the fellows like yourself and the stuff right next to us, you're going to find, I think you're going to come out all right."},{"start":58.57,"end":58.79,"text":"You better."},{"start":59.04,"end":62.72,"text":"Yes, yes, that's right."},{"start":63.16,"end":64.03,"text":"That's right."},{"start":64.05,"end":65.35,"text":"Well, I appreciate it."},{"start":65.37,"end":67.92,"text":"Matter of fact, you know, the guy that was down at the Sun and Leaves yesterday, and she said..."},{"start":68.12,"end":97.74,"text":"that the number of the the ladies you know mrs dennis and others are saying that they believe that the government has done just right and cracked down on these demonstrators and they came in you know we didn't we weren't wrong but they said when they wouldn't clear the idea you know i was in california and i talked to the chief of police and i told them saturday night that next morning i should just go in there and clean out at the end they don't want to go and that that way we just can't let them stop the government that's the way i feel"},{"start":98.95,"end":102.48,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":102.5,"end":104.03,"text":"Thanks a lot."},{"start":104.19,"end":107.51,"text":"Yes, I know."},{"start":110.12,"end":110.86,"text":"I know she's there."},{"start":111.22,"end":115.21,"text":"Give her my best, will you?"},{"start":115.23,"end":118.26,"text":"Bye-bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Senator Harry F. 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