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Start Date: 5-May-1971 5:38 PM

End Date: 5-May-1971 6:13 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Charles ChasslerEhrlichman, John D.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:30:06

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:07:32

492a.mp3

492b.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Charles Chassler, John D. Ehrlichman, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:38 pm to 6:13 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 492-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 492-7

Date: May 5, 1971
Time: 5:38 pm - 6:13 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

     International economy
           -A meeting
                -Report
           -Stock market

[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access [SA] 8, Ronald V.
Dellums, et al., v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     President’s schedule
          -George Meany
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                          Tape Subject Log
                                             (rev. 9/08)



                -May 9, 1971 breakfast

[The President talked with Dr. Charles Chassler [sp?] at an unknown time between 5:38 pm and
5:45 pm]

[Conversation No. 492-7A]

[See Conversation No. 2-91]                                           Conv. No. 492-7 (cont.)

[End of telephone conversation]

     Dr. Chassler’s letter to President
          -A staff call to Chassler
                -Possible publicity

     President’s calls

     Letters to President
           -Possible publicity

     President’s meeting with John B. Connally
          -Lockheed
          -Supersonic Transport [SST]
                -Upcoming vote
                     -Importance
                     -Gerald R. Ford
                     -House, Senate
                     -Possible changes
                           -Rationale
                           -[Name unintelligible]
                -Previous vote
                     -Administration efforts
                           -Melvin R. Laird
                           -William M. Magruder’s work
                     -House
                           -Ford
                     -John A. Volpe

     John D. Ehrlichman’s schedule

[The President talked with an unknown person [Ehrlichman?] at an unknown time between 5:38
pm and 5:45 pm]
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 9/08)




[Conversation No. 492-7B]

     Meeting with President

[End of telephone conversation]

     Ford                                                                Conv. No. 492-7 (cont.)
            -Newsletter from other congressmen
                -Joe D. Waggonner, Jr.
                      -Robert S. McNamara
                            -Vietnam

Ehrlichman entered at 5:45 pm

[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for SA 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al., v.
James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration
produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy. Conversation
No. 492-7C (See Conversation No. 2-92) and Conversation No. 492-7D (See Conversation No.
2-93) occur during the transcribed portion.]

[End of transcript]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Mrs. Jerry V. Wilson


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Privacy]
[Duration: 6s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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            -President’s possible call to Chief Jerry V. Wilson

[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
                                             28

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 9/08)



court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for SA 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al., v.
James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration
produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     SST
           -Upcoming vote                                             Conv. No. 492-7 (cont.)
                -Ford and Leslie C. Arends meeting with President
                      -Clark MacGregor, William E. Timmons
                      -Coalition with Southern Democrats
                      -Connally
                      -Edward P. Boland
                      -Termination costs
                      -Possible vote changes
                      -House/Senate conference
                -Possible Senate vote
                      -Connally’s Lockheed announcement
                      -David H. Gambrell
                      -John V. Tunney
                      -Alan Cranston
                      -Jewish support for Tunney and Cranston
                           -Ted Cummings, et al. [?]
           -Frank T. Bow
                -Lunch with Ehrlichman
           -Upcoming vote
                -Ford
           -House/Senate conference
           -Congressional action
           -House/Senate conference
                -Bow
                -Vote
           -Appropriations bill
                -Timing
                      -Headlines on demonstrations, Lockheed, war
           -Lockheed
                -Gambrell
                -Warren G. (“Maggie”) Magnuson
                -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                -Tunney and Cranston
           -Senate vote
                -Number needed
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 9/08)



                -Cranston, Tunney and Gambrell
                -Clinton P. Anderson
                      -Jackson
                -Margaret Chase Smith [?]
                -Influence of House vote
           -Importance
                -B-1 bomber
           -White House efforts                                          Conv. No. 492-7 (cont.)
                -Ford
                -Senate
                -House
                      -Republicans

[Transcript #4: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for SA 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al., v.
James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration
produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     SST
           -Upcoming vote
               -Importance
                    -B-1 bomber

     B-1
           -William Proxmire
           -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 6:03 pm

     Washington, DC demonstrations
         -Ziegler’s briefing

[Transcript #5: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for SA 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al., v.
James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration
produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     Washington, DC demonstrations
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 9/08)



           -Ziegler’s briefing
                -Robert Pierpoint
                       -Compared with Dan Rather

[Transcript #6: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for SA 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al., v.
James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration
produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
                                                                           Conv. No. 492-7 (cont.)

[End of transcript]

     William D. Ruckelshaus
          -Forthcoming meeting with Ehrlichman
          -Environmental Protection Agency [EPA] funds
               -California
               -Research
               -President’s supporters

     Lockheed announcement
         -Connally
         -Location
         -President’s role
         -Location
         -Time
               -Connally
               -Ziegler’s briefing

Ehrlichman left at 6:13 pm

                 -Connally’s meeting with President

President, Haldeman, and Ziegler left at 6:13 pm