{"conversationCode":"493-011","tapeNumber":493,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-493-011","startDateTime":"1971-05-06T16:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-06T16:15:00.000Z","startDate":"6-May-1971","startTime":"12:10 PM","endDate":"6-May-1971","endTime":"12:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Korologos, Thomas C.; Friedersdorf, Max L.; Timmons, William E.; Moore, Richard A.; MacGregor, Clark; White House photographer; Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On May 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Thomas C. Korologos, Max L. Friedersdorf, William E. Timmons, Richard A. Moore, Clark MacGregor, White House photographer, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:10 pm and 12:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 493-011 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 493-11\n\nDate: May 6, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:10 pm and 12:15 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Thomas C. Korologos, Max L. Friedersdorf, William E. Timmons,\nRichard A. Moore, and Clark MacGregor; the White House photographer was present at the\nbeginning of the meeting\n\n     Friedersdorf’s work in Senate\n\n     Photo session arrangements\n\n     President’s congratulations\n\n     Friedersdorf’s [?] education\n\n     Gifts from President\n\nKorologos, et al. left and Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 12:14 pm\n\n     A picture of the President’s great-great grandfather\n          -[Forename unknown] Milhous\n\nZiegler left at an unknown time before 12:15 pm","filename":["493a.mp3","493b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:42:25","tapeEnd":"02:44:38","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Korologos, Thomas C.","Friedersdorf, Max L.","Timmons, William E.","Moore, Richard A.","MacGregor, Clark","White House photographer","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"493-010","nextCode":"493-012","tapeTranscriptFile":"493a.mp3,493b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":9761.38,"end":9769.34,"text":"For you to do it, right now, would be something that, throughout the world, everybody would rise up and say, well, that's an instrument."},{"start":9769.36,"end":9771.62,"text":"I'm going to work, you know what I mean?"},{"start":9771.64,"end":9772.54,"text":"She lost her credit, you know?"},{"start":9772.88,"end":9774.46,"text":"I'll go out there and do something."},{"start":9775.04,"end":9780.98,"text":"I'm not stopping all along, doing what the law doesn't tell you to do."},{"start":9781.04,"end":9782.14,"text":"That's the crazy thing."},{"start":9782.16,"end":9783.76,"text":"You have your problem, sir."},{"start":9784.46,"end":9786.34,"text":"These are for money."},{"start":9786.62,"end":9789,"text":"There's a paper that would do something, anyway."},{"start":9796.4,"end":9804.77,"text":"This thing will wash. You're an enthusiast."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":9761.375,"end":9829.5,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his legislative aides, including Thomas C. Korologos, Max L. Friedersdorf, and William E. Timmons, to acknowledge their work in the Senate and present them with gifts. The brief session included a photo opportunity with the White House photographer to commemorate the staff members' contributions. Following their departure, Ronald L. Ziegler joined the President to briefly discuss a photograph of Nixon's great-great-grandfather, Milhous.","topics":["Senate legislative strategy","White House staff","Presidential gifts","Milhous family history","Staff recognition"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:07:19.473Z"},"topicSlugs":["senate-legislative-strategy","white-house-staff","presidential-gifts","milhous-family-history","staff-recognition"],"audioDurationSec":133,"audioFiles":[{"file":"493a.mp3","bytes":175702725,"durationSec":7320.89,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"493b.mp3","bytes":167948119,"durationSec":6997.76,"bitrate":192002,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.989Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:50.342Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/493a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/493b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/493-011","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/493/conversation-493-011","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}