{"conversationCode":"494-002","tapeNumber":494,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-494-002","startDateTime":"1971-05-08T13:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-08T14:05:00.000Z","startDate":"8-May-1971","startTime":"9:16 AM","endDate":"8-May-1971","endTime":"10:05 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:16 am and 10:05 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 494-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 494-2\n\nDate: May 8, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 9:16 am and 10:05 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     President's schedule\n          -Forthcoming meeting\n                 -Ronald L. Ziegler\n                 -Length\n                 -Press coverage\n                      -Photographers, reporters\n                 -Length\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:05 am.","filename":["494a.mp3","494b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:07:16","tapeEnd":"00:07:46","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"494-001","nextCode":"494-003","tapeTranscriptFile":"494a.mp3,494b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":416.79,"end":425.4,"text":"The president wants you to photograph at the afternoon, 15 minutes until 10.15."},{"start":425.46,"end":428.64,"text":"All right, now they tell Ron to just bring in partners and reporters."},{"start":429.9,"end":431.2,"text":"Just bring in and take a picture."},{"start":431.22,"end":434.26,"text":"I don't want any conversation."},{"start":434.3,"end":435.92,"text":"This is only going to be a 15 minute meeting."},{"start":436,"end":436.74,"text":"Perhaps it's got to be."},{"start":436.82,"end":437.86,"text":"Wait a minute, Jeff."},{"start":437.88,"end":439.02,"text":"15 minutes."},{"start":439.73,"end":441.23,"text":"Just come in for a picture and then off."},{"start":441.89,"end":442.89,"text":"I don't want to stand around."},{"start":452.13,"end":455.35,"text":"Well, come on in now."},{"start":455.83,"end":458.12,"text":"Sit down here."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":347.75,"end":466,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate logistical arrangements for an upcoming meeting with Ronald L. Ziegler. Nixon explicitly instructed Bull to limit the interaction to a brief photo opportunity for press photographers and reporters. The President emphasized a strict fifteen-minute timeframe and explicitly prohibited any conversational engagement during the session.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Press relations","Public relations strategy","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:08:25.879Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","press-relations","public-relations-strategy","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":30,"audioFiles":[{"file":"494a.mp3","bytes":175806170,"durationSec":7325.19,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"494b.mp3","bytes":112048377,"durationSec":4668.63,"bitrate":192002,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:48.989Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/494a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/494b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/494-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/494/conversation-494-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}