{"conversationCode":"496-004","tapeNumber":496,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-496-004","startDateTime":"1971-05-10T12:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-10T16:46:00.000Z","startDate":"10-May-1971","startTime":"8:00 AM","endDate":"10-May-1971","endTime":"12:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"United States Secret Service agents;","description":"On May 10, 1971, United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:00 am and 12:46 pm. 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Segment\ncleared for release.]\n[Non-Historical]\n[496-004-w001]\n[Duration: 3m 2s]\n\n     Unknown person’s schedule\n\n     Parking\n\n     Unknown person’s schedule\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nThe unknown man [Secret Service agent] left at an unknown time before 12:46 pm.\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542","filename":["496-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:18:56","tapeEnd":"00:22:22","participantsList":["United States Secret Service agents"],"prevCode":"496-003","nextCode":"496-005","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":7.26,"text":"Uh, is an agent there?"},{"start":8.82,"end":9.06,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":9.08,"end":13.77,"text":"Have an agent's liquor store?"},{"start":13.79,"end":16.09,"text":"Are you covering that place out there?"},{"start":17.49,"end":17.59,"text":"Okay."},{"start":17.61,"end":19.47,"text":"Do you know of her?"},{"start":19.49,"end":19.55,"text":"No."},{"start":19.57,"end":20.17,"text":"Down the road downstairs?"},{"start":20.69,"end":20.99,"text":"No, I wouldn't."},{"start":21.01,"end":25.4,"text":"I just want to know, uh, what you're taking off next week, everybody?"},{"start":25.42,"end":25.64,"text":"Everything."},{"start":25.66,"end":26.14,"text":"Oh, no, I won't."},{"start":28.92,"end":42.4,"text":"He will be available to move you on Thursday, et cetera."},{"start":42.42,"end":42.78,"text":"I said he will be."},{"start":42.8,"end":49.69,"text":"He will be available to have you move him on Thursday, et cetera."},{"start":49.71,"end":49.81,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":49.83,"end":55.12,"text":"Unless you do it when you have your work money."},{"start":55.13,"end":55.8,"text":"I mean, I call him up and..."},{"start":55.82,"end":57.36,"text":"He thinks he's gonna land that thing on the ground, doesn't he?"},{"start":60.81,"end":72.55,"text":"To the ellipse, Jack."},{"start":74.2,"end":83.73,"text":"To the ellipse."},{"start":83.75,"end":84.17,"text":"They are out of here."},{"start":84.19,"end":84.57,"text":"You're a big dummy."},{"start":84.59,"end":85.07,"text":"Why can't you park here?"},{"start":85.09,"end":86,"text":"You can park, but you can't lay it out there."},{"start":86.02,"end":87.94,"text":"Okay, look, I'll catch you when you're better than this."},{"start":87.96,"end":88.46,"text":"Yeah, I'll catch you too."},{"start":89.2,"end":98.77,"text":"Seriously, I don't know."},{"start":99.27,"end":99.47,"text":"Right now."},{"start":101.38,"end":102.92,"text":"Well, I don't know."},{"start":102.94,"end":103.28,"text":"Yeah, I know."},{"start":103.3,"end":109.93,"text":"Well, that's what I wanted to try to do."},{"start":110.07,"end":110.67,"text":"What do you go to then?"},{"start":110.77,"end":110.85,"text":"412?"},{"start":110.87,"end":112.17,"text":"Huh?"},{"start":112.19,"end":112.29,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":112.31,"end":112.49,"text":"Then 412."},{"start":112.51,"end":112.83,"text":"And you said no."},{"start":112.85,"end":114.51,"text":"I said, after you're done off, you go to 412."},{"start":114.53,"end":118.02,"text":"Is that right?"},{"start":118.04,"end":118.16,"text":"Right."},{"start":120.47,"end":127.92,"text":"Bloody hell, I'm talking to y'all next week."},{"start":127.94,"end":136.35,"text":"We've been on dates for two weeks in a row, Jack."},{"start":136.38,"end":139.44,"text":"I'm trying to figure this out."},{"start":139.46,"end":142.51,"text":"I don't know about next week."},{"start":142.53,"end":143.41,"text":"I don't know about next week, Jack."},{"start":143.43,"end":143.63,"text":"I'm ready."},{"start":143.65,"end":144.99,"text":"He said he'd work on it until next Thursday of next week."},{"start":146.42,"end":164.94,"text":"Mom, what kind of old age was it all this time?"},{"start":172.91,"end":174.41,"text":"I can't remember."},{"start":174.43,"end":174.61,"text":"I got it."},{"start":174.63,"end":174.81,"text":"Close it."},{"start":174.84,"end":175.09,"text":"Take it away."},{"start":175.94,"end":181.93,"text":"They're probably going to kill each other over here."},{"start":181.95,"end":182.57,"text":"And you told them to come here."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Secret Service personnel engaged in an informal discussion regarding logistics, scheduling, and site-specific operational protocols. 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