{"conversationCode":"498-009","tapeNumber":498,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-498-009","startDateTime":"1971-05-13T17:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-13T18:15:00.000Z","startDate":"13-May-1971","startTime":"1:25 PM","endDate":"13-May-1971","endTime":"2:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Trohan, Walter;","description":"On May 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Walter Trohan met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 2:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 498-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 498-009\nDate: May 13, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:25 pm and 2:15 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\nThe President dictated a letter to Walter Trohan\nTrohan's note to the President\n-The President's schedule\n-Bohemian Grove\n-Herbert H. Hoover's presidency\n-Security concerns\n-Press\nJim Fregosi\n-Sports","filename":["498-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:10:52","tapeEnd":"03:12:15","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Trohan, Walter"],"prevCode":"498-008","nextCode":"498-010","transcript":[{"start":0.74,"end":6.51,"text":"the water drawing near water."},{"start":6.85,"end":25.84,"text":"I greatly appreciated your note with regard to the only clue that your field vector managed far more than Herbert Hooters time."},{"start":25.86,"end":27.83,"text":"So over with securing press"},{"start":30.09,"end":34.87,"text":"And other colors."},{"start":34.89,"end":51.38,"text":"REGOS-I, which is a short shot of the color green now."},{"start":51.4,"end":51.8,"text":"Sports column 2."},{"start":51.82,"end":52.06,"text":"And the pig."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with journalist Walter Trohan to discuss administrative matters, including the dictation of a personal letter. The pair reviewed comparisons between Nixon's presidency and that of Herbert Hoover, while also addressing concerns regarding press coverage and security. Additionally, the conversation touched upon lighthearted topics such as sports and the Bohemian Grove.","topics":["Herbert Hoover","Press relations","Bohemian Grove","Presidential legacy","Sports","Administrative correspondence"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:15:06.036Z"},"topicSlugs":["herbert-hoover","press-relations","bohemian-grove","presidential-legacy","sports","administrative-correspondence"],"audioDurationSec":54,"audioFiles":[{"file":"498-009.mp3","bytes":2165864,"durationSec":54.01,"bitrate":320804,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:49.346Z","transcriptGapSeconds":35,"transcriptGapShare":0.66,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/498-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/498-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/498/conversation-498-009","catalogNaId":417177141,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417177141","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}