{"conversationCode":"498-010","tapeNumber":498,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-498-010","startDateTime":"1971-05-13T17:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-13T18:15:00.000Z","startDate":"13-May-1971","startTime":"1:25 PM","endDate":"13-May-1971","endTime":"2:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 2:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 498-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 498-010\n\nDate: May 13, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:25 pm and 2:15 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Henry A. Kissinger\n          -Barber\n          -James M. Roche\n               -John D. Ehrlichman, Peter G. Peterson\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 2:15 pm","filename":["498-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:12:15","tapeEnd":"03:12:54","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"498-009","nextCode":"498-011","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":19.64,"text":"Mr. Henry, I've seen you for five minutes prior to 3 o'clock."},{"start":19.66,"end":20.84,"text":"I wonder if you were aware of it right now, Mr. Lawrence."},{"start":20.86,"end":22.62,"text":"The Board of Regents in New York is inhumanating, sir."},{"start":22.64,"end":22.92,"text":"Yeah, I would."},{"start":22.94,"end":23.39,"text":"I couldn't go further."},{"start":23.41,"end":23.95,"text":"Mr. Henry, did you miss us?"},{"start":23.97,"end":24.35,"text":"Yes, I did see you."},{"start":24.37,"end":24.69,"text":"Well, then, bye."},{"start":24.71,"end":25.07,"text":"Why don't we stay?"},{"start":25.09,"end":25.83,"text":"I'll catch you in about five minutes."},{"start":25.85,"end":26.49,"text":"Five minutes prior to 4 o'clock."},{"start":26.51,"end":27.05,"text":"Well, then, we're going in."},{"start":27.07,"end":27.15,"text":"Bye."},{"start":27.17,"end":27.31,"text":"Thanks."},{"start":27.33,"end":28.45,"text":"Do you know anybody on that meeting with Roche?"},{"start":28.8,"end":29.75,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":30.01,"end":36.08,"text":"I think earlier was coming to that."},{"start":36.1,"end":36.7,"text":"Peterson was coming, too."},{"start":36.73,"end":36.91,"text":"Peterson."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President’s upcoming daily schedule, focusing on coordination for a series of high-level meetings. The discussion specifically addressed the logistics for upcoming appointments with Henry Kissinger, Barber, and James M. Roche. John D. Ehrlichman and Peter G. Peterson were identified as additional participants for the scheduled meeting with Roche.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Henry Kissinger","White House administration","James M. Roche","Peter G. Peterson","John D. Ehrlichman"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:15:11.388Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","henry-kissinger","white-house-administration","james-m-roche","peter-g-peterson","john-d-ehrlichman"],"audioDurationSec":38,"audioFiles":[{"file":"498-010.mp3","bytes":1543105,"durationSec":38.43,"bitrate":321230,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:49.346Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:51.222Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/498-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/498-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/498/conversation-498-010","catalogNaId":417177143,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417177143","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}