Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 504-002
Date: Thursday, May 27, 1971 at 9:33 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Woods, Rose Mary; Kissinger, Henry A.; Bull, Stephen B.
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/504-002

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[0:00] Well, I'm going to park something that's easy.
[0:26] Because he did such a great job.
[0:34] Also, here's the jersey.
[1:33] I don't know what he's saying.
[1:57] I don't know.
[1:57] I don't know.
[1:58] I don't know.
[1:58] I don't know.
[1:58] I don't know.
[1:59] I don't know.
[1:59] I don't know.
[2:00] Even if it's not a state visit, we are asking you because it isn't too much of a budget problem.
[2:18] It's a nice way to talk to you and introduce you to the staff.
[2:19] And, uh, in the name of Nick, come on right up.
[2:20] It's not called Jack Cuts when he comes here.
[2:21] He stays at the letterhouse and comes into the colony.
[2:22] It means a great deal.
[2:23] Okay.
[2:23] I'll see you.
[2:23] I'll see you.
[2:23] I'll see you.
[2:26] I think it's a good news.
[2:49] It's just a gracious thing to do.
[2:52] I've never forgotten.
[2:53] They feel that.
[2:55] I remember in Bangkok.
[2:57] Take the Thailand and the East and the Central States.
[3:10] And I hope y'all sleep with yourself in the capital of Spain.
[3:15] And in fact, in New York.
[3:17] So, what do you do?
[3:18] Run around with somebody?
[3:20] Yeah.
[3:21] That must have occurred to you.
[3:22] Must have occurred to me.
[3:22] Oh, I can start with this.
[3:24] Senator, I don't know.
[3:26] President comes to this country, even though I can only give him a half hour, he ought to stay as a state guest.
[3:47] Yep.
[3:48] And it'd be a nice touch.
[3:49] The play that we were meeting showed you the great importance of doing something when an issue is number one.
[3:51] Yep.
[3:51] And we're going to have another meeting next week, right?
[3:55] Not a very moderate play.
[3:56] That picture with Edgar Hoover, uh, got into most of the papers about it.
[4:04] Certainly, the papers have got some light.
[4:06] They've got an invention of some networks with this film.
[4:09] It wasn't just mentioned, was it?
[4:14] Yeah.
[4:14] Why did, why did Bob, it's got a number on the safety?
[4:18] Because it's goddamn good with navigation.
[4:19] Sure, we're stuck with him anyway.
[4:21] You know, here again,
[4:22] You'll get, in your stat, you'll get a mixed view because, uh, Hoover's bad and all that sort of thing.
[4:38] We're struggling with Bob.
[4:40] He's like a Vietnam War.
[4:41] He's bad.
[4:41] But we know what the polls show on Hoover.
[4:43] They think he's too old.
[4:43] He's not retired, but they showed it for Hoover and for the FBI.
[4:45] I'll actually go to the Supreme Court and find my tire.
[4:48] Yep.
[4:48] Rose, can you check one thing for me, please?
[4:49] I don't know whether we thought of it, but we've got to be sure Hoover's invited to that election.
[4:53] Yes, sir.
[4:57] That's why I called those friends, you know.
[5:03] He isn't waiting for the train of people to come.
[5:08] Well, he isn't meeting people.
[5:09] I know.
[5:10] That's what Patrick had in mind.
[5:11] Well, we shouldn't go to, we shouldn't go to the island because... Oh, no.
[5:12] Pete's team is going to happen.
[5:13] Well, I would say he doesn't rank.
[5:15] He doesn't rank.
[5:16] I think they're eating it without me to be here.
[5:17] See, you know, the price when they're fighting, that's not, oh, that's not any word for me.
[5:21] I mean, it's just, you know...
[5:22] Oh, you see, I've got a couple of them separated out there.
[5:39] I see them just straight out.
[5:41] We lost his invitation.
[5:42] I'll take it.
[5:42] I'll take it.
[5:45] I'll take it.
[5:46] I'll take it.
[5:46] I'll take it.
[5:46] I'll take it.
[5:48] I'll take it.
[5:48] I'll take it.
[5:49] Well, I didn't go to Julie's.
[5:55] I didn't go to Julie's.
[6:03] I didn't go to Julie's.
[6:10] I didn't go to Julie's.
[6:11] I didn't go to Julie's.
[6:14] You would have been proud to hear that he picked up the child last night.
[6:28] They were just... Oh, that's nice.
[6:32] They were happy to hear it.
[6:32] I said, you know, you know, they said, you know, Thomas is fucking me to come, but I...
[6:34] I truly called and said I shouldn't.
[6:35] No, I'll tell you, it... Because I don't...
[6:37] They came for us.
[6:37] I don't know.
[6:38] I bet she was there.
[6:38] I don't know what she looks like, but... Oh, she's a nasty little bitch.
[6:40] I...
[6:40] There was no need for you to... Well, I used to go to every little thing, you know.
[6:41] I mean, I...
[6:43] I should have known that, but I'll be going to Lawson that time with the diplomatic reception, for example, but I shouldn't.
[7:00] But Walter's going to show up at the showers, didn't he?
[7:01] I don't know.
[7:01] I sent the note on the internet.
[7:03] I thought he had to know it in case they asked me.
[7:05] Well, Julie called me and said, there's a baseball game on the internet.
[7:06] I said, that's Julie.
[7:07] She's crazy.
[7:07] She kicked it off.
[7:08] But how was the showers?
[7:08] It was fun.
[7:08] It was fun, too.
[7:09] It was just perfect.
[7:09] With that plank gift, she ran it out.
[7:10] She's fighting the person in the room, you know, the face of the man.
[7:12] Um, and the only time I went to be in great debt, that I don't like to hear it later, you better than I do, whatever it means, I'd like to rock her head off.
[7:25] Because I don't want to talk to her.
[7:27] She came up to me, she said,
[7:29] That Mrs. Cox was lovely.
[7:38] Oh, I thought she looked like a cat.
[7:40] And so, I don't know.
[7:41] I don't know.
[7:42] I don't know.
[7:43] I don't know.
[7:45] I don't know.
[7:47] I don't know.
[7:47] I don't know.
[7:47] I don't know.
[7:48] I don't know.
[7:49] You don't want me to say not have as much as you have.
[8:00] Sorry, sorry, sorry.
[8:01] I mean, you know her.
[8:04] She don't want me to say that.
[8:06] She wants you to say that as much as you have.
[8:08] I don't care what she did to me.
[8:10] I don't care what she did to me.
[8:11] I don't care what she did to me.
[8:12] I don't care what she did to me.
[8:14] The best
[8:40] I saw Cornell, and Parmier, and Calum Thomas, and Bill Tice, and so forth.
[8:47] They all write bland, generally embarrassing, you know, go rave, and that's fun, that's the kind of writing I like.
[8:52] Oh, I must say, you know, the water people wrote pretty, pretty jazzy stuff about that Southern trip.
[8:57] It was really, yeah, I think we must have shipped them or something.
[9:03] Because it's very funny how he was written on that, on that tremendous enthusiasm.
[9:09] I know you're talking about our current bank, rather.
[9:14] Now, that's something that you have to go through, and that's unincorrected.
[9:19] Out of 160,000 people, that was a concerted estimate.
[9:23] These are signs.
[9:24] Thousands of people have been flagged, so far.
[9:25] We've found three.
[9:26] three signs about freedom of choice.
[9:32] And his commentary is about freedom of choice in Alabama and the people of Michigan, Alabama.
[9:45] There wasn't a move, there was whatever, two radicals at one point.
[9:46] That one little question that we're in the head of, chapter one, two, three, four, five hundred cops were almost running over the walls.
[9:52] Well, Paul Haley and several others said it was absolutely tempting, and they felt that it actually certainly was than anything close to what he'd done in his life.
[10:11] Yeah, that's a long line.
[10:18] Oh, that's what he said.
[10:21] He said that yours was so great and that it was, it just, a lot of that, obviously, they've been talking about.
[10:26] Wallace did, too, but a little guy that he latched on to the president.
[10:28] He wasn't allowed to go to the library.
[10:29] Yeah, I think that was a good time.
[10:30] I was talking to my host, Larry O'Brien, and we talked about the North.
[10:36] Yes, I'm being incredible.
[10:42] I've been saying that for many years, exactly right.
[10:46] You're still 50, huh?
[10:46] Have you been singing that song?
[10:47] I've been singing that song.
[10:48] Yeah, and I've said it in the press conference, I can believe in the devil's name.
[10:52] And I believe in the creator of that shape of it.
[10:54] Well, they shouldn't be talking about it.
[11:01] Well, look, you can't be talking about kids.
[11:05] You know, they're kids, by the way.
[11:09] Well, they're animals, they're not, in Virginia.
[11:12] They did.
[11:13] I don't think it's right.
[11:20] But I think that they, I think the sudden trip and having David and Julie along was just right.
[11:22] I think it was perfect having them.
[11:23] I actually had a hell of a play out there with Preston.
[11:26] Did they finally get some TV on down there?
[11:27] Yeah.
[11:28] I hope so.
[11:31] It wouldn't get very much.
[11:33] And Eric Young said that you were bringing Texas to him.
[11:39] That I got from a lot of Democrats all the time.
[11:42] And reporters and people.
[11:43] But it was just... One time I was just such a thrill to just see you there.
[11:48] You know, the whole thing.
[11:49] I think that's a great product.
[11:49] Sounded like it anyway.
[11:52] Well, the Texas system was.
[11:53] Well, the whole thing.
[11:54] Well, he was gracious and all.
[11:56] Heard it in the way of those other people.
[11:57] They don't have that.
[11:59] They show no grace.
[12:03] They have nothing.
[12:05] They're mean, vicious old vultures.
[12:08] We have walls down here.
[12:16] I'm sure that's why.
[12:18] I like that.
[12:18] I like that.
[12:19] I'm sure that's why I got those wooden ones.
[12:23] Sure, because these other people felt that this was a great, as far as you can tell, state of it.
[12:34] Shut down for a bit.
[12:35] He just wouldn't try it.
[12:37] It's not any more important than that.
[12:40] So it's pretty obvious to be honest with him.
[12:41] Wallace says he's going to have us.
[12:42] He's going to have us.
[12:43] He's going to have us anyway we want.
[12:45] He's going to have us and keep us down.
[12:47] I haven't done that in a long time.
[13:04] I haven't done that in a long time.
[13:05] I haven't done that in a long time.
[13:06] I haven't done that in a long time.
[13:09] I haven't done that in a long time.
[13:10] I haven't done that in a long time.
[13:11] I haven't done that in a long time.
[13:18] Well, let me say this.
[13:24] I am obliged to do this.
[13:32] You watch, of course, to be sure.
[13:35] Neither Henry nor Steve.
[13:36] It will be better than Henry.
[13:37] Slip in.
[13:37] That's not the future.
[13:38] Slip in.
[13:38] Unless, I mean, that's why I want to.
[13:40] But, you know, because I was an easy marcher and everything, Senegal comes, and what he did for Southland and somebody else, I never want to happen to much.
[13:45] I mean, I'm strapped up next week.
[13:46] That's all I'm going to do.
[13:48] We get these things.
[13:50] Well, we actually, well, Mousetrap just was changing the date for the press conference.
[13:57] We loved it.
[13:58] We loved it.
[13:58] This is well better tomorrow.
[14:00] We loved it.
[14:01] For tomorrow, we wouldn't have had to do this.
[14:03] We would have still gotten trapped in the surroundings.
[14:05] They obviously were out because of it.
[14:09] All the other things.
[14:11] We haven't done one for a long time.
[14:14] We're never a problem.
[14:16] Never a problem.
[14:25] I don't mind having the rattles any time.
[14:31] The thing is, I just think we've got a little amount of time.
[14:36] I don't want to get trapped in the rattles or accidents.
[14:39] There's a real problem.
[14:40] If God had an accident, I'm not going to do it.
[14:41] If we'll have an accident, he said, yes, we're going to have one.
[14:42] That's enough.
[14:42] It's going to have a little flax in there.
[14:43] 30, 35, 40, you've got that.
[14:44] But a lot of flax in the street house.
[14:44] Even in Senegal.
[14:45] Some of them can stay there.
[14:46] It's only for a couple of nights.
[14:55] In each case, where it's a non-official visit, it's going to be a two-night stay.
[15:04] In Washington, you could go to three rooms.
[15:11] But not beyond that.
[15:12] We can't have somebody stuck out there for a week.
[15:13] Speaking of this business of getting back to work,
[15:16] I thought it would get a play, but I didn't know it would get that much play.
[15:27] Now, I think that you could have, I think maybe if you had more, I don't think Brown will see it, and I don't think Lyons sees it, of course, or any of the others.
[15:39] They do see it, but they're so busy in the day-to-day operations.
[15:42] What you've got to see is opportunity.
[15:43] Come in, Mike.
[15:43] It's Mike.
[15:44] He's got to be the other dude.
[15:44] He should be, too.
[15:45] Scali should be just made to order.
[15:49] Maybe you should have a meeting each day, Bob.
[15:53] Or with Scali Klein.
[15:55] Not Klein, Dunn-Pleasant, I hear.
[16:01] Scali.
[16:01] Moore.
[16:02] What's it really?
[16:03] Colson.
[16:05] Colson's judge was not good as to what kind of meeting to have.
[16:08] He had a drive to Hillock.
[16:10] If you could have told them, no, I did, I did.
[16:22] You wouldn't use this as an example.
[16:27] Here's the Uber.
[16:30] Use it as an example.
[16:31] All right, my boss, let's watch.
[16:31] What is the story?
[16:32] Let's see how we can advance the presidency to that.
[16:33] You see, you compare that.
[16:34] We have not had the Uber thing.
[16:36] All they would have had to run was the arts story.
[16:37] Okay.
[16:38] Now, who the hell wanted to hear the arts?
[16:39] It got very good play in
[16:40] right where it should be, in the arts section of the arts, you know, the music and theater section.
[16:48] If that's what you want, because then only the people are going to hear it, but if that had been the only story, that would be pretty sad, wouldn't it?
[16:59] Yeah.
[17:00] It's a limited council for the arts.
[17:02] It tells the people we're going to spend $30 million for art, but it's not going to be good.
[17:08] That's just the time they need it.
[17:10] But I do think this goes, let's grab the good stories, let's grab the good stories.
[17:18] This thing now is much like a politician.
[17:20] Every time, what he says is true.
[17:22] It's going so much that they, I don't know, maybe it's our fight or something.
[17:31] I was thinking, you know, it shows you how you're just so right.
[17:34] Nobody jumped on that police thing.
[17:37] Actually, nobody did.
[17:38] Nobody in here said, you know, my guy's got to do something about the police.
[17:41] He should go up to New York to the funeral or anything like that.
[17:46] I've had three different calls on the person who ought to do something about that black girl who was shot yesterday.
[17:58] It's really kind of a fascinating thing.
[18:00] Now, that's a tragedy, too.
[18:02] But it's not nearly the tragedy in my view that
[18:05] It's senseless and all that, but it turned to hell.
[18:08] Cops are out trying to, trying to save, help people.
[18:11] There was an agency that called around, they said there were 12 people who were murdered in California.
[18:16] And also it was a tragedy scene.
[18:19] Yeah.
[18:19] More so, really.
[18:21] They called back 100 murderers.
[18:23] Yeah, 100 murderers.
[18:24] Except they were murdered by another Mexican, too.
[18:28] Yeah, they weren't white.
[18:29] They weren't black.
[18:29] I'm sorry about the little blacker.
[18:30] Right, right.
[18:31] I don't know.
[18:31] Well, we will, of course, but I have not done anything.
[18:39] I have not had a statement about it.
[18:41] I don't know what that thing, what the name of it was all about.
[18:44] That's what it was originally.
[18:45] It was a senseless killing.
[18:46] A little black girl, white little girl, who had just graduated from high school and got the award for the most cooperative girl.
[18:51] Her son was walking home.
[18:52] Three people drove by in a car and shot her.
[18:53] So in the name of God, where?
[18:54] Why?
[18:55] There's been some racial tension.
[19:01] I mean, don't tell the cops.
[19:12] That's a purely senseless kind of thing.
[19:18] No, I just, Coles and I came in and gave them a little call about a police man who was supposed to be a cop.
[19:23] But he had thought of several things about the jail.
[19:24] I don't know what he said.
[19:25] Were they gone?
[19:25] I would say we read the letter just now.
[19:26] Yeah.
[19:26] To get them off.
[19:27] Because I respect the rule.
[19:27] He wasn't.
[19:28] He wasn't.
[19:28] I didn't have any sense of it.
[19:35] You need to read it, sir.
[19:38] I'd like to watch it.
[19:46] I don't want to sit around with a bunch of people gassed up, drinking wine and so forth and having a little chat.
[20:08] I did it for Keith and a couple of others.
[20:09] And it's a very enjoyable case for what I'm concerned about.
[20:11] That's great for a few, but the best thing to do when I am around here, for example, is to put the goddamn thing on as a blacktop and expand it.
[20:15] with 50 people.
[20:22] And I'd sit and talk to him, which is all he wants to work on.
[20:30] You know, I found that every time, the guy was talking to me and all it makes for me to have the working things.
[20:33] And I had to make conversation with all the people around the table.
[20:35] Well, you'd have to get it down to about 10 people.
[20:36] You can't talk to more than 10 people.
[20:37] You've got to be at that little table.
[20:38] You've got to be sitting in there.
[20:39] And inevitably you say, well, what do you think?
[20:47] What do you think, Jack?
[20:49] It's just too much work.
[20:50] And I think that is one place where you can compliment people.
[20:52] You know what I'm saying?
[20:53] Sure.
[20:53] They love to come.
[20:54] And let them out because they can stand around and gas a little.
[20:57] Go ahead and put their hot pickles in there.
[20:58] There's no work that you can get done in one of those anyway.
[20:59] All you can do is eat lunch and submit.
[21:01] That goes without saying.
[21:02] And the only purpose of that is to allow entertainment to make it appear that it's not entertainment.
[21:07] Yeah.
[21:08] But it is a total death bomb.
[21:10] But you can still call it a death bomb unless you can have 100 people.
[21:24] You can call it a working life.
[21:25] I don't want to be a problem.
[21:26] I'm just going to be a lunch boy.
[21:26] The point is that for me, I do not like ever to have anything where I invite 100 people.
[21:33] I don't want to have a sandwich.
[21:33] I call the cafeteria.
[21:34] Should we bring in our new congressman from
[21:35] Maryland, I think we ought to fire him to the left.
[21:41] That was a hell of a victory.
[21:42] Mandela was determined to beat us on that, and he failed.
[21:55] But it's a good... Sure.
[21:56] He ran as a solid Nixon man, and the other guy ran as a solid anti-administration man.
[21:59] So it was an administration referendum, and we won it pretty well.
[22:01] Solidly Democratic.
[22:03] Oh, I know some of these people are Maryland murderers.
[22:05] Well, Ross was calling a couple of weeks ago saying, we've got a chance to win this thing.
[22:16] And I thought he was out of his mind.
[22:19] And I was like, you know, oh, yeah.
[22:21] Yeah, because the theory had always been that that was a large democracy, not a republic.
[22:26] It was, yeah, 5,000, 6,000, 4,000, 31 to 27,000.
[22:29] Also, is that as good?
[22:38] $4,000.
[22:39] You'll be able to see it coming now?
[22:42] Sure.
[22:42] If he's any good at all, I assume he will be.
[22:50] He was born as AA.
[22:51] So he ran us.
[22:51] Isn't that great?
[22:52] I'm going to run us and bring him in today.
[22:53] I think we'll see.
[22:53] All those vote victories.
[22:55] That Hughes vote is being played as a major victory, which it should be.
[22:58] It was.
[22:58] Hughes.
[22:58] Hughes.
[22:59] They don't know what the hell you're up to.
[23:12] I don't think you should sit down about it.
[23:25] He's an absolute ghost and so is his friend Harris.
[23:36] He was coming up.
[23:42] It was a funny thing.
[23:43] The Harris thing.
[23:47] Art Bowles and also Gallops have shown all this for the last few months.
[23:48] They've been a hit in all the travel things.
[23:49] Harris has shown up there several times.
[23:50] It's been an upturn for whatever reason.
[23:51] I think it's because of his voice.
[23:57] I think it probably gets awkward as we've been talking to them, see?
[24:20] But not today, I was bothered.
[24:28] I don't know if you'll believe it, but in the morning we got the chance to do it, but I remember it is 15 minutes, so you're straight back to breathing, you know, by that schedule.
[24:43] So I got this, basically a symbolic time, so I just had it for 20 minutes, but I, uh, that's all.
[24:48] What about the meeting I just mentioned?
[24:49] Oh yeah, Steve Grohl.
[24:50] Steve Grohl.
[24:51] We'll do that right after the Rockies meet.
[25:12] Yeah, good.
[25:12] Rockies.
[25:12] Okay, you said it on the hand order at 1.30.
[25:13] Maybe.
[25:14] I think not.
[25:14] We'll just call it.
[25:14] It's about the certificate.
[25:15] That's what they do.
[25:15] And then they let her, you know, do the validity and put the name of the man.
[25:17] That's right.
[25:18] It's really a very handsome thing.
[25:22] What that means to the whole department is that the Poloka High School are a Cub Scout Troop 18.
[25:36] The little Cub Scouts, each of those little Cub Scout Troop Troops, and each of the ROTC units, S.I.
[25:42] schools, and each of the, uh, don't get the fire stations that count.
[25:45] The real class, boy, they pull out those fire engines, all the firemen saluted, and the Rad Cub Scouts, the ROTC, did their stuff.
[25:52] And they think it's that glass that will ricochet all through those places and let's go to all of them in the future.
[26:00] That is infinitely better than Miami to Ronald Anderson.
[26:02] Sure, isn't it?
[26:03] Sure.
[26:04] All right.
[26:06] Well, it looks like one.
[26:07] You know, you have that on the wall of the high school.
[26:11] Well, of course, the presidential visit was competent.
[26:13] It won't be old.
[26:14] Very good.
[26:32] Even when we go back to places like Los Angeles for our high school letters, I know a man that promised they'd love to have a certificate of appreciation for that.
[26:37] Sure.
[26:37] Hey, what else is interesting?
[26:38] Well, that was the day I read it.
[26:39] It was a very, considerably very light news day, actually, which is why it was good to have done that.
[26:41] It picked up a time when there wasn't much competition, which gave it a good balance, didn't it?
[26:44] They played them on TV and played them well because they used it as the lead to the police funeral.
[26:54] See, there was a second police funeral at the Capitol.
[26:58] The Italian's funeral was yesterday at the Capitol.
[26:59] The black funeral was the day before.
[27:03] And so they did the lead in President Nixon's, you know, getting things going, doing something about killing policemen and all that.
[27:07] And then they cut to the funeral and ran the footage.
[27:09] And I'm trying to get an announcement out tomorrow about the police meeting.
[27:14] I can't wait to get the announcement that they've got better than a 4 o'clock.
[27:27] Yeah, I told them to take it out at 18 o'clock.
[27:31] I heard Elliot's feelings, but not them.
[27:32] Just like Kurt Finch's before.
[27:34] Bob, they aren't the right people to handle the bill problem.
[27:36] They've been having it.
[27:37] They screwed it up.
[27:39] Sure, because what you want is a heart clean.
[27:48] You don't want understanding.
[27:49] I don't want psychiatry.
[27:53] No, what you want is to get the dope feathers by the balls and smash it.
[27:57] I want to smash the dope cutters.
[27:57] I want to use marijuana.
[27:59] I'm sure we'll start there.
[27:59] And of course, methadone and all the rest.
[28:01] I'll give that to you.
[28:01] That's right.
[28:02] I don't have any cure.
[28:02] But boy, if I were you, I would sure stay away from the cures because there's a lot of numbers to what it is.
[28:05] I understand.
[28:05] Methadone may be as bad as marijuana.
[28:06] That's right.
[28:07] That's right.
[28:07] That's right.
[28:09] Let them experiment with that.
[28:11] All you have to do is be hard on against the stuff.
[28:14] Well, I'm against it.
[28:18] Well, you need some moral force.
[28:20] You really do.
[28:20] And they talk about the president's moral force on racial stuff.
[28:23] You need it on Bill.
[28:24] You need the president saying this is bad.
[28:26] Yeah.
[28:27] Yeah.
[28:30] We haven't heard about the president tomorrow.
[28:38] We hear the president's at work.
[28:39] Frankly, they need moral force in terms of standing up to the police.
[28:45] But parents need it for their kids on the dope thing.
[28:46] It's hard as hell to talk to your kids about dope.
[28:48] And how you need some.
[28:49] I think you have to have a speech on it sometime.
[28:50] I think you do.
[28:50] A national speech on it.
[28:51] I think you do.
[28:51] I don't know what it is.
[28:52] Why I'm against it.
[28:53] Listen carefully.
[28:53] You think it's your grade?
[28:56] I think you're reading the problems from it.
[28:59] But it ought to be a short radio talk that could then be used in school rooms.
[29:09] And that kind of thing.
[29:12] In other words, we could make quite a lot of TV.
[29:13] Or a short talk.
[29:14] Or a short talk about using our educational TV for once.
[29:16] On this one.
[29:16] That would be a pretty good one for education.
[29:20] And you live with charts and everything.
[29:21] And I just sit there like a teacher and explain the thing.
[29:23] Now that's one thing, you know, I have to do sometime even in this whole foreign policy area.
[29:27] I need to take a foreign policy part of this.
[29:31] and just give a little understanding.
[29:38] College lecture, what the hell this is all about.
[29:48] That's very impressive to people, Bob.
[29:50] I can do it without any notes or any of that sort of stuff.
[29:52] And as you said, I think we made some magical overlords.
[29:54] It's easy to make, but it's easier.
[29:55] Some magical overlords, you're trying to read every goddamn thing you want to do.
[29:59] Paraphrasis throws a bunch of weird shit.
[30:02] Now, there's some real value at times, and you're just talking to people.
[30:07] I never thought we'd be hard of people, but really, it was a nice talk.
[30:28] I'm afraid I can't seem to compare it to what we were doing.
[30:29] We had one thing in mind.
[30:30] One, we could do this together.
[30:30] Two, we could build this and the other thing.
[30:31] There's a mile up ahead of us.
[30:32] It's time.
[30:32] But I have just a few minutes to talk to you.
[30:33] We're out of this meeting, but maybe we should do that at the King's Mansion.
[30:35] We won't have to go eat at my home.
[30:37] It won't take very long.
[30:49] It won't take very long.
[30:56] It won't take very long.
[30:59] It won't take very long.
[31:01] It won't take very long.
[31:04] It won't take very long.
[31:07] Well, it was agreed that it would be discussed simultaneously.
[31:19] Why are the studies going on yet?
[31:25] I don't know.
[31:26] All I want is that they don't let the concluding session tomorrow make a reference.
[31:44] By July, we'll have to settle.
[31:45] Charlie has warned that Sembionic will sail tomorrow.
[31:46] At first we do this, and then we do that.
[31:47] And that wouldn't be good.
[31:47] And I think I can get that settled.
[31:48] Well, I say, since the whole purpose of the deal, it's indecisive.
[31:51] That's great.
[31:51] We'll put the letters out.
[31:51] That's great.
[31:52] That's great.
[31:53] Well, the thing to do is to simply, no, we don't have a public council.
[32:09] They both have a public council.
[32:10] I noticed it's not like that they got any cover on, uh, uh, I noticed it's so different than usually when they're talking about the version of Dr. Frog.
[32:14] And we, uh, and, well, it's the way we expect it to be.
[32:15] And, uh, and they're, uh,
[32:17] their comments about the UAR and the response to that.
[32:23] What I mean is, we are, we have a situation here where that means
[32:32] It's so hostile to us that we therefore have got to deal with those things that there are in this culture, in this conventional platform.
[32:47] Actually, I think the Russians are really bad at the gangsters as Italians.
[32:52] The Chinese are almost everywhere.
[32:53] That's not all.
[32:53] The Chinese are up with it.
[32:54] They're both out together.
[32:56] The Chinese will probably go for a big knockout while the Russians will try to lead us to death.
[33:08] that the president called to your attention when he saw those new signs.
[33:17] He said, now look, we're not a good kind of interested in this kind of thing.
[33:20] They want to play that kind of a game that all bets are off.
[33:24] And I think we've got to get to some of the things faster than I agree.
[33:28] And actually, Simon, you let me get back to you so it's all right.
[33:32] Come on, boy.
[33:33] And I put it right to him hard.
[33:35] I'll tell you what I knew.
[33:37] I'll tell you.
[33:37] But the threat has to be that if they can't accept it now, we won't go in September, no matter what they do.
[33:48] Yeah.
[33:48] That's the threat we have.
[33:48] Otherwise, it's fleeting.
[33:49] That's what it is, man.