Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 504-006 Date: Thursday, May 27, 1971 at 11:52 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Robinson, R. C. ("Hugh"); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Cole, Jack T. ("Tom"); Malek, Frederic V.; Martin, Robert; Rocco, Frank P.; Howell, Carson M.; Howell, Carson M. (Mrs.); Butterfield, Alexander P.; Peterson, Peter G.; Bedell, Catherine May Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/504-006 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:06] Are you ready to strike? [0:35] I appreciate you for working in the past few years. [0:51] I look forward to serving you for the rest of your life. [1:00] Thank you, we have a, yeah, well, I tell you, we do give you both questions in higher track, but we hope that you can read and recognize that. [1:18] So, I don't know if it would be worth it, I'm sure, I was thinking the same for the system. [1:20] When I was, I mean, back in Scottsdale, in the past, earlier, it was another 67 or so drive. [1:25] How do you picture the role in the president's system? [1:28] Did you have time for one? [1:35] Are you a golfer? [1:41] Uh, I may be a golfer. [1:52] Wait, you're a golfer? [1:53] Yes, I am a golfer. [1:53] Well, that matters. [1:54] Yes, I am a golfer. [1:55] Yes, I am a golfer. [2:07] I'm sure it's all right. [2:26] You might have got a big boat here. [2:26] A big boat. [2:27] Yeah. [2:27] Yeah. [2:27] Yeah. [2:27] Yeah. [2:32] Well, we got good [2:52] Get along. [2:59] Get your presidential cufflinks. [3:05] Do you want to be a golfer? [3:09] No, sir, I don't know. [3:09] No, they don't do that. [3:10] And we wish you the very best. [3:11] I'll give you golf ball anything you want. [3:12] Rather than be quiet about it, you'd say you've got to hold your line. [3:19] I think there are other things to be said about it. [3:23] Yes, yes. [3:35] Yes, sir. [3:45] Yes, sir. [3:46] He was having a career. [4:06] You're on the swamp or something. [4:08] I didn't know what that was. [4:08] I don't know. [4:09] He should have applied in the background. [4:09] Okay. [4:10] One. [4:10] I don't know. [4:10] I didn't know. [4:11] I didn't know. [4:11] I didn't know. [4:12] I didn't know. [4:12] I didn't know. [4:14] I need to give a call to the financial side of us. [4:32] He's got to be certain most of the time. [4:33] Well, I did vote that you didn't give us too many hundreds. [4:36] I don't know if you got rid of the people. [4:37] I don't know about that. [4:37] Did you do that? [4:38] Did you vote? [4:38] I don't know. [4:39] You were in that shirt and brown over there. [4:40] Why was there a meeting on that afternoon? [4:41] I don't know. [4:44] I mean, you can take what he wants about legalizing marijuana, but I'm not for it. [4:58] So you should leave your kid in there, huh? [4:58] I agree with you, sir. [4:59] Well, you hear your girl's an actual cop, I mean, so there's nothing for you to watch over your ears, but you've got to have something to prove your fear. [5:02] And also, you're all talkers, aren't you? [5:04] Yes, sir. [5:06] How's it going, Dad? [5:18] Oh, you can call them home. [5:27] I'm just buzzing. [5:27] Thanks, all. [5:27] That's all you have for all the next few times. [5:28] Not another thing. [5:29] It's been a pleasure, though. [5:29] We are appreciative. [5:30] Thank you so much for serving us. [5:31] We'll call them again. [5:32] Absolutely. [5:32] Perfect. [5:32] Now, where you are, you're definitely good. [5:33] Just out there raising the tension again one of these days. [5:34] Thanks a lot. [5:35] Nice. [5:35] Mark, right? [5:35] Yeah. [5:35] Thank God. [5:35] Thank you. [5:40] But I was here, sir. [5:45] I was here. [5:46] I was here. [5:46] I was here. [5:46] I was here. [5:58] Yes, we agree. [6:10] Mr. Harrison, hello, Mr. President. [6:13] Yes. [6:13] How old are you? [6:13] I'm thirty-five. [6:14] Thirty-seven and a half years. [6:15] Well, it's hard to realize you could have been here that long. [6:18] Oh, thank you. [6:19] Good to see you. [6:21] Yeah, it's good to be here. [6:22] Thirty-seven and a half years. [6:22] Thirty-seven and a half years. [6:23] I was talking to Marcel this morning on the building across the street. [6:24] He says, now you speak of the State War Navy, the Cure Corps, Hunter River, January 4, 1933. [6:26] And I said, well, I think we must have a president. [6:27] It's a lot of worries, isn't it? [6:50] I took a message to your dad. [6:51] How many days? [6:51] Five. [6:51] Yeah, I got a lot of days. [6:52] Excellent. [6:52] What about our dad, son? [6:52] He's right over in the house. [6:53] Yeah, he's right over in the house. [6:54] Let's get a formal picture for you. [6:54] I'm going to have to write you an extra message. [6:55] Let me see where you're going to write it to your father. [6:57] Get this, boy. [6:59] Thank you. [7:15] Thank you. [7:15] Thank you so much. [7:43] Thank you. [7:52] The office will be impressed, Lord Ransom. [8:22] President? [8:22] Well, there's no turning back. [8:36] Amen. [8:39] That's almost as good as being mad at God. [8:45] Because you know it's not. [8:48] That's the point. [8:48] It does show that we... [8:50] You want to be sitting? [9:01] I wonder if we should. [9:02] I wonder if we should. [9:07] Is it in the house, Jack? [9:17] No, you're not. [9:19] This is the day. [9:24] You're not going to do that. [9:25] Oh, yeah, no. [9:33] Pardon me. [9:34] You're going to do something. [9:34] There, amen. [9:35] Amen. [9:35] Amen. [9:35] Amen. [9:43] . [10:06] . [10:06] . [10:06] . [10:10] No. [10:33] They go out? [10:33] No, no. [10:33] I live at home. [10:33] They go out. [10:34] I live at home. [10:34] I live at home. [10:34] I live at home. [10:35] I live at home. [10:40] The second thing is that they will trust you. [11:05] And I would like you to work very closely with me. [11:07] We're going to have a new attitude on all these things. [11:09] He is looking after America's interests, understand? [11:12] So, when he tells you, it's from me, right? [11:33] Well, you are this. [11:34] All right. [11:34] You do the right thing. [11:35] Thank you. [11:35] And he's good at the station. [11:35] All I want to say is, I'm sure you're on the right side. [11:37] Oh, I think so. [11:37] I think he has all these trinkets. [11:38] We want to give you that as a paperweight. [11:38] That means, that means that's just a split of seconds from now. [11:40] Very small, as you see. [11:40] Thank you, Mr. Perry. [11:41] You don't know what I'm talking about. [11:41] No, I don't. [11:42] I don't think so. [11:42] I'll give you that. [11:42] Can I have one of those crickets? [11:57] No, I don't have one. [12:00] I just have one of these. [12:01] Thank you. [12:02] You'll see. [12:02] They're strong. [12:02] So we got a friend. [12:03] Oh, we got a friend. [12:03] Thank you, Mr. President. [12:03] Sir, it's my envy, Mayor, that this town is, first of all, a shrewd country. [12:06] And second, she knows what those, excuse me, some of those clowns up there, that are not our friends, what they'll be up to. [12:23] On this whole business here, you're talking to her very candidly, and it will be done in nice little confidence. [12:27] And I would think that at a very early time, when you do have a briefing, like that international stuff, she and all the members of the committee, and top members of the commission, span lots of that here, [12:34] If you can't hear him, he hasn't touched yet. [12:41] He has an hour and a half reading on the United States. [12:47] But it's an attitude of mine that we have to change in this country. [12:53] All of your people will see you over there. [12:55] What they can do, and this is one where even, you know, as big as 100, if you want to pick a half a dozen of your top stackers, talk to me, this is who they ought to be, right? [13:07] This has to be an attitude that I'm told that I don't have. [13:10] Yeah, yeah, except one secretary, but can we make a change in that? [13:33] I think we do, don't you think? [13:34] We need some, uh, well, everybody talk it out. [13:35] Yeah, I'm going to turn it into a money man. [13:36] Everybody rolls over. [13:36] Everybody rolls over, but there's plenty of rockers in there. [13:38] He's a real tough author. [13:38] I asked her two questions, and he told me this is what she wanted to say. [13:40] One, [13:40] I need some guidance. [13:48] Am I supposed to sit there and go to sleep in my gavel and let the cobwebs escape? [13:59] And two, if I keep my nose clean, do my work hard, and then come up with some constructive ideas, can I get to see you and Pete at some time and see you and her? [14:03] Well, he and Patrice are in exactly the same relationship to me on these matters as Henry Kissinger is. [14:05] On the, uh, National Security Matters, as Ann has said, of course, John Rosen is on the domestic media. [14:25] So, can you talk to him? [14:26] That's it. [14:26] All right. [14:26] He has my total confidence. [14:27] So, we have Tom Curtis. [14:27] Yes, I understand. [14:28] Tom Curtis. [14:28] Now, if we discover he's a mutual friend of ours, or if we lose the media, they'll become friends. [14:30] Right. [14:31] And I have to go out and talk to him. [14:31] Do my natural. [14:32] I like your white and blue. [14:32] Thank you. [14:33] Thank you. [14:33] Thank you. [14:40] Very well done.