{"conversationCode":"504-021","tapeNumber":504,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-504-021","startDateTime":"1971-05-27T14:03:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-27T14:36:00.000Z","startDate":"27-May-1971","startTime":"10:03 AM","endDate":"27-May-1971","endTime":"10:36 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Butterfield, Alexander P.; [Unknown person(s)]; United States Secret Service agents;","description":"On May 27, 1971, Alexander P. Butterfield, unknown person(s), and United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:03 am and 10:36 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 504-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 504-21\n\nDate: May 27, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 10:03 am and 10:36 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nAlexander P. Butterfield met with an unknown woman and Secret Service agents.\n\n     Oval Office furnishings\n          -Lucy Ferguson\n               -Call for unknown object\n               -Arrival of unknown object\n               -Display of unknown object\n\n     Preparations for President’s return to Oval Office\n\nButterfield, et al. left at an unknown time before 10:36 am.","filename":["504-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Butterfield, Alexander P.","[Unknown person(s)]","United States Secret Service agents"],"prevCode":"504-020","nextCode":"504-022","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":22.48,"text":"Um, Lucy Ferguson is making a car right now."},{"start":22.5,"end":23.02,"text":"It'll be here by any time."},{"start":23.04,"end":23.82,"text":"But this thing has to be built somehow."},{"start":23.84,"end":24.88,"text":"Lucy could have, he has to be built by Mr. Ferguson."},{"start":24.9,"end":25.66,"text":"Lucy will be here before he's in town."},{"start":25.68,"end":25.95,"text":"What is this?"},{"start":25.96,"end":26.65,"text":"That's the beginning of the movie."},{"start":26.67,"end":27.63,"text":"It's quiet there, but I think that's what it is."},{"start":27.65,"end":28.09,"text":"Lucy's face is better."},{"start":28.11,"end":28.83,"text":"Just see what it's done by the time."},{"start":28.85,"end":29.21,"text":"What do you think?"},{"start":29.23,"end":29.43,"text":"Beautiful."},{"start":36.73,"end":62.12,"text":"There is a heck of a lot we can do to solve it."},{"start":62.14,"end":62.84,"text":"We've got to do something about it."},{"start":62.86,"end":63.7,"text":"You never know when you really need to go."},{"start":63.72,"end":64.16,"text":"We can add on to this."},{"start":65.66,"end":73.91,"text":"Thank you very much."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Alexander P. Butterfield met with Secret Service agents and unidentified individuals in the Oval Office to coordinate the arrival and display of a decorative object commissioned by Lucy Ferguson. The group discussed technical requirements for the item’s installation and its visual presentation within the room. This logistical effort served as a preparatory measure for the President's upcoming return to the office.","topics":["Oval Office","Alexander P. Butterfield","White House logistics","Secret Service","Interior furnishings"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:30:43.201Z"},"topicSlugs":["oval-office","alexander-p-butterfield","white-house-logistics","secret-service","interior-furnishings"],"audioDurationSec":74,"audioFiles":[{"file":"504-021.mp3","bytes":2959983,"durationSec":73.87,"bitrate":320576,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:49.683Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/504-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/504-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/504/conversation-504-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}