Nixon & Woods on Presidential papers and Book writing

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This is your guest, Meepo.

That's just one on the right and left.

Put it in an outside envelope, too.

We sent an over by messenger to his, to Maggie Renkel.

In an outside out vote, told her that it was inside locked eyes only, no one was disabled, the secretary.

Did you want the wife back?

No, that's fine.

I'm sorry, I can't call the chain.

I have to go.

Oh, sorry.

We called her first.

She understood, you know.

You know those people that...

B.B.

dealt with this.

I hope B.B.

doesn't care.

Um, they wrote Eugene Warner and another event.

We had lunch with them on Friday.

I had to watch B.B.

I thought I missed B.B.

They also wrote B.B.

a letter and asked me if I should have anyone look into this for them.

The, uh, his royal highness, you know, Stott, would love to come over and

September to his protocol dictates that the Department of Defense would have to extend the invitation to the Defense Minister.

Should I just ask Don if he wants to check into that at Defense?

I just didn't know what you thought.

Should I ask?

Go ahead.

I think you'd better ask Henry about that.

I think it's a very, just to be sure that we don't want to get into a problem.

I would like to do it because they're, I have their personal considerations as to... Just tell me if I can do it, if it's feasible.

Yeah, if I can do it, if it's feasible because of the... No, I mean, you want to do it in an accurate...

This is interesting.

Somebody's asked this.

Yeah, it's Archbishop that, uh, Congressman, that one, I thought, Pepper protested.

Yeah, be bad.

Well, Dan checked him out and B.B.

has died against him, but, but we won't have him.

Holt Lewis has written me a letter asking, he's written, he wrote me a letter asking me to give this to you if you want.

He, he liked your book that you sang about Jefferson.

He,

wondering about reflections on two other presidents you admire.

Wouldn't it sometimes be good to do a very small book with the title, Three Presidents, with your reflections on Jefferson, Wilson, and Zeta-Lobos?

I wonder if the book wouldn't also call me things, Mr. President, or something.

It might be something you just want to give some thought to sometimes.

That's what he suggested.

He said if you're at all interested, he'd be glad to talk it over with Ray Price.

All right.

I'd like to talk to Ray about that.

Is that all right?

I think the idea is that he would be glad to talk to Ray about it.

Oh yes, I know what you mean.

Now, this thing, we did send Conley one after you suggested it.

You had thought you would like to keep one.

And so that's why they framed it.

Yeah, I know.

The only thing I was, did we say on to some... Yeah, the other thing, presented to, I just said to Secretary of Treasury John Conley, it said presented to the Speaker of the House, you know.

And it had, every one of them had that on it.

But yours, they took it off because they didn't want, they didn't want yours to say presentable, you know, to you, by you.

I said, come with God.

Given that, they said presentable, come with me also.

I told her, I told her, I told her, I told her, I told her,

Stay steady.

That place must be fabulous.

It's much overdone, in my opinion.

But he's done a hell of a job, and he's put his whole life into it and so forth, and I was goddamn mad at some of the pressure he's put on Selena.

This is cruel.

We ought to leave the court master alone now.

I think the fact that he's going to trust the government $835,000 more, you know, when they start to run it, it's making us be worried.

You got to get out.

Oh, sure.

When it was voted in, it was for $150,000 or $250,000, something like that, $800,000.

I didn't hear about that.

I've had that kind of talk so far.

The libraries of Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Truman, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and so forth, because they have a lot better use of money than a lot of other people.

It's like lighting the White House.

Some people bitch about lighting the White House, but it's worth doing.

Sure.

Oh, I think it's a very good one, but I don't hear people at this particular point.

They thought it was trying to make everything too big and too...

I don't think so either.

You would never do a Gandhi thing anyway.

No, but I'm going to keep my presidential papers.

I'm going to keep my presidential papers.

I know, you're not, you know.

That was given by Ed Morgan, and most people went to.

I don't know what all this gave him.

I don't think he gave it to me, but I don't really know.

I think you gave it a lovely...

I'm quite sure it wasn't anything that important.

Well, fine by all.

What did that give you, Tammy?

Did it continue for example?

I mean, how much have I given to the government?

How much have I...

In other words, basically the only part that I have to worry about is what I'm writing off in taxes, because that I have to give.

If it were the vice president, I'd just give it to him.

I think that's one reason the stock market dropped the last couple of days.

It's just that New York is terrible.

But the main thing is that

They're just all really shaky.

Of course, it's calmed down a little bit now, but they said it was just awful.

And the minister, I think, once said that this is what happens when people run down there, all the police officers talk about it.

uh, stress, uh, flea brutality or something when they're, you know, mostly trying to do their own job and now they just get it so nothing means anything.

Incidentally, that dinner tonight, uh... Where was it, frankly?

No, it was at, uh, in the, in Baldwin's Walmart.

The whole floor was full of men.

They had to turn people away.

They didn't have themselves.

As they said, it's the hardest two years for that position in like 160 years, really.

But Ross Perot was there.

Well, I know they were, but the chairman, I don't know, something about the numbers, something they'd work on.

Yeah.

But you're better.

That was a great hint.

Just as very busy as it can.

And the vice president came up and spoke.

And he got a great, well, just a tremendous book.

And they said I was there.

And they introduced the Lasker family.

And then they had me saying that we were up in the box.

And they were so nice, all of them.

John Coleman, who was sort of writing it, said that he liked your letter so much.

He said he was so pleased to meet me, so I said, I don't know, you're all going to turn me into a Republican after all these 70 years of being a Democrat or something.

But they were all friends.

The whole Georgetown thing was there.

And her sisters were there.

And that beautiful daughter of hers came back from Paris.

She was absolutely striking.

She had a black dress on and a beautiful diamond ring.

She's better looking than anyone by far.

I think there is.

I saw her one time.

I like her.

He told me one time, a couple weeks ago, he was down here one day, he stopped in just for a minute, and he said he and Sue had gone to dinner the night before.

He's hopeful, and he paid tribute to her last night.

He said that he thanked all first people, but at the end he said, his being a governor and then his being a, he could not ever, he didn't say my wife.

He said, I could never have done this without Sue.

Without Sue.

It really was, it was there.

How did she look?

She looked great.

She was much more red than when I saw her one time.

The time they flew down here and brought that flight that they gave you, she was just, she was so a wreck.

And I think she weren't seeing her psychiatrist so much.

She'd go to a psychiatrist.

That's what the whole problem is.

Oh, right.

The psychiatrist would tell him, you know, well, your husband's been upset too, and that's it.

Oh, yeah, the son at that point said he loved him.

He killed the psychiatrist.

Oh, that's what that was.

Unbelievable.

Oh.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

You can return the call when it's convenient for you.

Nixon & Woods on Presidential papers and Book writing

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