Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 505-010
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1971 at 1:22 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; White House operator
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/505-010

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[0:00] This is your guest, Meepo.
[0:33] That's just one on the right and left.
[0:49] Put it in an outside envelope, too.
[0:53] We sent an over by messenger to his, to Maggie Renkel.
[0:58] In an outside out vote, told her that it was inside locked eyes only, no one was disabled, the secretary.
[1:05] Did you want the wife back?
[1:07] No, that's fine.
[1:12] I'm sorry, I can't call the chain.
[1:14] I have to go.
[1:14] Oh, sorry.
[1:15] We called her first.
[1:18] She understood, you know.
[1:18] You know those people that...
[1:21] B.B.
[1:21] dealt with this.
[1:22] I hope B.B.
[1:23] doesn't care.
[1:25] Um, they wrote Eugene Warner and another event.
[1:30] We had lunch with them on Friday.
[1:32] I had to watch B.B.
[1:34] I thought I missed B.B.
[1:36] They also wrote B.B.
[1:37] a letter and asked me if I should have anyone look into this for them.
[1:43] The, uh, his royal highness, you know, Stott, would love to come over and
[1:48] September to his protocol dictates that the Department of Defense would have to extend the invitation to the Defense Minister.
[2:03] Should I just ask Don if he wants to check into that at Defense?
[2:09] I just didn't know what you thought.
[2:10] Should I ask?
[2:13] Go ahead.
[2:15] I think you'd better ask Henry about that.
[2:30] I think it's a very, just to be sure that we don't want to get into a problem.
[2:32] I would like to do it because they're, I have their personal considerations as to... Just tell me if I can do it, if it's feasible.
[2:37] Yeah, if I can do it, if it's feasible because of the... No, I mean, you want to do it in an accurate...
[2:41] This is interesting.
[2:41] Somebody's asked this.
[2:44] Yeah, it's Archbishop that, uh, Congressman, that one, I thought, Pepper protested.
[2:55] Yeah, be bad.
[2:56] Well, Dan checked him out and B.B.
[2:58] has died against him, but, but we won't have him.
[3:02] Holt Lewis has written me a letter asking, he's written, he wrote me a letter asking me to give this to you if you want.
[3:09] He, he liked your book that you sang about Jefferson.
[3:11] He,
[3:11] wondering about reflections on two other presidents you admire.
[3:16] Wouldn't it sometimes be good to do a very small book with the title, Three Presidents, with your reflections on Jefferson, Wilson, and Zeta-Lobos?
[3:25] I wonder if the book wouldn't also call me things, Mr. President, or something.
[3:31] It might be something you just want to give some thought to sometimes.
[3:37] That's what he suggested.
[3:39] He said if you're at all interested, he'd be glad to talk it over with Ray Price.
[4:02] All right.
[4:02] I'd like to talk to Ray about that.
[4:03] Is that all right?
[4:03] I think the idea is that he would be glad to talk to Ray about it.
[4:19] Oh yes, I know what you mean.
[4:28] Now, this thing, we did send Conley one after you suggested it.
[4:35] You had thought you would like to keep one.
[4:37] And so that's why they framed it.
[4:39] Yeah, I know.
[4:40] The only thing I was, did we say on to some... Yeah, the other thing, presented to, I just said to Secretary of Treasury John Conley, it said presented to the Speaker of the House, you know.
[4:55] And it had, every one of them had that on it.
[4:57] But yours, they took it off because they didn't want, they didn't want yours to say presentable, you know, to you, by you.
[5:14] I said, come with God.
[5:14] Given that, they said presentable, come with me also.
[5:23] I told her, I told her, I told her, I told her, I told her,
[5:34] Stay steady.
[5:36] That place must be fabulous.
[5:42] It's much overdone, in my opinion.
[5:47] But he's done a hell of a job, and he's put his whole life into it and so forth, and I was goddamn mad at some of the pressure he's put on Selena.
[6:01] This is cruel.
[6:01] We ought to leave the court master alone now.
[6:03] I think the fact that he's going to trust the government $835,000 more, you know, when they start to run it, it's making us be worried.
[6:07] You got to get out.
[6:08] Oh, sure.
[6:09] When it was voted in, it was for $150,000 or $250,000, something like that, $800,000.
[6:18] I didn't hear about that.
[6:20] I've had that kind of talk so far.
[6:30] The libraries of Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Truman, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and so forth, because they have a lot better use of money than a lot of other people.
[6:38] It's like lighting the White House.
[6:40] Some people bitch about lighting the White House, but it's worth doing.
[6:42] Sure.
[6:44] Oh, I think it's a very good one, but I don't hear people at this particular point.
[6:51] They thought it was trying to make everything too big and too...
[6:57] I don't think so either.
[6:58] I don't think so either.
[7:01] You would never do a Gandhi thing anyway.
[7:07] No, but I'm going to keep my presidential papers.
[7:16] I'm going to keep my presidential papers.
[7:18] I'm going to keep my presidential papers.
[7:19] I'm going to keep my presidential papers.
[7:19] I'm going to keep my presidential papers.
[7:21] I'm going to keep my presidential papers.
[7:22] I'm going to keep my presidential papers.
[7:24] I know, you're not, you know.
[7:39] That was given by Ed Morgan, and most people went to.
[7:43] I don't know what all this gave him.
[7:46] I don't think he gave it to me, but I don't really know.
[7:49] I think you gave it a lovely...
[7:52] I'm quite sure it wasn't anything that important.
[8:01] Well, fine by all.
[8:02] What did that give you, Tammy?
[8:03] Did it continue for example?
[8:04] I mean, how much have I given to the government?
[8:05] How much have I...
[8:06] In other words, basically the only part that I have to worry about is what I'm writing off in taxes, because that I have to give.
[8:10] If it were the vice president, I'd just give it to him.
[8:12] I think that's one reason the stock market dropped the last couple of days.
[8:31] It's just that New York is terrible.
[8:34] But the main thing is that
[8:37] They're just all really shaky.
[8:42] Of course, it's calmed down a little bit now, but they said it was just awful.
[8:55] And the minister, I think, once said that this is what happens when people run down there, all the police officers talk about it.
[9:02] uh, stress, uh, flea brutality or something when they're, you know, mostly trying to do their own job and now they just get it so nothing means anything.
[9:14] Incidentally, that dinner tonight, uh... Where was it, frankly?
[9:19] No, it was at, uh, in the, in Baldwin's Walmart.
[9:23] The whole floor was full of men.
[9:30] They had to turn people away.
[9:38] They didn't have themselves.
[9:41] As they said, it's the hardest two years for that position in like 160 years, really.
[9:49] But Ross Perot was there.
[9:54] Well, I know they were, but the chairman, I don't know, something about the numbers, something they'd work on.
[10:04] Yeah.
[10:05] But you're better.
[10:08] That was a great hint.
[10:13] Just as very busy as it can.
[10:17] And the vice president came up and spoke.
[10:23] And he got a great, well, just a tremendous book.
[10:28] And they said I was there.
[10:29] And they introduced the Lasker family.
[10:34] And then they had me saying that we were up in the box.
[10:39] And they were so nice, all of them.
[10:42] John Coleman, who was sort of writing it, said that he liked your letter so much.
[10:47] He said he was so pleased to meet me, so I said, I don't know, you're all going to turn me into a Republican after all these 70 years of being a Democrat or something.
[10:56] But they were all friends.
[10:58] The whole Georgetown thing was there.
[11:11] And her sisters were there.
[11:13] And that beautiful daughter of hers came back from Paris.
[11:18] She was absolutely striking.
[11:20] She had a black dress on and a beautiful diamond ring.
[11:25] She's better looking than anyone by far.
[11:30] I think there is.
[11:32] I saw her one time.
[11:49] I like her.
[11:58] He told me one time, a couple weeks ago, he was down here one day, he stopped in just for a minute, and he said he and Sue had gone to dinner the night before.
[12:08] He's hopeful, and he paid tribute to her last night.
[12:11] He said that he thanked all first people, but at the end he said, his being a governor and then his being a, he could not ever, he didn't say my wife.
[12:23] He said, I could never have done this without Sue.
[12:27] Without Sue.
[12:30] It really was, it was there.
[12:32] How did she look?
[12:34] She looked great.
[12:34] She was much more red than when I saw her one time.
[12:38] The time they flew down here and brought that flight that they gave you, she was just, she was so a wreck.
[12:46] And I think she weren't seeing her psychiatrist so much.
[12:50] She'd go to a psychiatrist.
[12:51] That's what the whole problem is.
[12:54] Oh, right.
[12:54] The psychiatrist would tell him, you know, well, your husband's been upset too, and that's it.
[13:00] Oh, yeah, the son at that point said he loved him.
[13:03] He killed the psychiatrist.
[13:03] Oh, that's what that was.
[13:05] Unbelievable.
[13:06] Oh.
[13:08] Yeah.
[13:16] Oh yeah.
[13:17] You can return the call when it's convenient for you.