{"conversationCode":"506-011","tapeNumber":506,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-506-011","startDateTime":"1971-05-28T21:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-28T21:08:00.000Z","startDate":"28-May-1971","startTime":"5:05 PM","endDate":"28-May-1971","endTime":"5:08 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.; Butterfield, Alexander P.; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:05 pm to 5:08 pm. 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(President)","Ehrlichman, John D.","Butterfield, Alexander P.","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"506-010","nextCode":"506-012","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":17.58,"text":"I can't think of any discussing on it."},{"start":17.6,"end":20.99,"text":"I think that the, uh, I think that Peter's just done a long, very, you know, you know, talk experiment, as opposed to, you know, this is your country, you can't do this."},{"start":21.01,"end":23.71,"text":"Well, then bring a copy of the speech tomorrow, and, uh, get Vincent exactly going to be accepted, and what we have to do is to get it."},{"start":24.47,"end":38.97,"text":"And you're going to deal with coding that flow."},{"start":38.99,"end":39.25,"text":"That's right."},{"start":39.27,"end":39.87,"text":"That's what we're going to do."},{"start":39.89,"end":40.67,"text":"I'm not going to be talking about that."},{"start":40.69,"end":40.93,"text":"I have five."},{"start":40.95,"end":41.27,"text":"I have not, too."},{"start":41.29,"end":41.99,"text":"Maybe you want to go over his name."},{"start":42.01,"end":42.25,"text":"Well, I did."},{"start":42.27,"end":42.99,"text":"And I tried to tally along with her."},{"start":43.01,"end":44.53,"text":"And the only thing I don't know about Charlie Schultz is I think he would..."},{"start":44.51,"end":64.28,"text":"I don't think you can have people that are going to go right in with Democratic candidates."},{"start":64.3,"end":65.23,"text":"And that's the problem with Garner's initials."},{"start":65.25,"end":66.07,"text":"I don't know if you could check that out."},{"start":66.09,"end":66.29,"text":"All right."},{"start":66.31,"end":67.15,"text":"But I'll see if I can get it off of those."},{"start":67.17,"end":67.81,"text":"I think that's the real problem."},{"start":67.83,"end":68.87,"text":"I'll tell you what, there are many other candidates."},{"start":68.89,"end":69.19,"text":"We can't do it."},{"start":69.21,"end":69.41,"text":"All right?"},{"start":69.43,"end":70.05,"text":"We can't do it with candidates."},{"start":70.07,"end":70.8,"text":"But there must be some other people."},{"start":70.81,"end":71.66,"text":"That said, it may be new things out there."},{"start":71.68,"end":71.94,"text":"I'm not sure."},{"start":71.96,"end":72.38,"text":"But I don't think so."},{"start":73.25,"end":88,"text":"All right."},{"start":88.66,"end":91,"text":"All right."},{"start":91.02,"end":91.9,"text":"All right."},{"start":98.36,"end":125.87,"text":"You do have things coming?"},{"start":125.89,"end":127.17,"text":"Can I tell them you're bringing it in?"},{"start":132.06,"end":145.15,"text":"All right, okay."},{"start":145.17,"end":146.83,"text":"I mean, that's all."},{"start":146.85,"end":147.45,"text":"No, no, no."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman met to discuss the administrative handling of a forthcoming presidential speech and the vetting of potential political appointees. 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