Conversation 508-004

TapeTape 508StartWednesday, June 2, 1971 at 8:55 AMEndWednesday, June 2, 1971 at 9:20 AMTape start time00:08:01Tape end time00:09:17ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President)Recording deviceOval Office

President Nixon dictated a memorandum to Egil “Bud” Krogh, Jr., tasking him with gathering reliable data on the correlation between marijuana use and subsequent heroin addiction. He directed Krogh to leverage research held by federal agencies, specifically identifying the National Institute of Mental Health and its director, Dr. Bertram S. Brown, as key sources. The President’s objective was to acquire concrete statistics to bolster his administration’s drug policy messaging.

Drug abuseHeroinMarijuanaEgil KroghNational Institute of Mental HealthBertram S. BrownPolicy research

On June 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:55 am and 9:20 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 508-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 508-004

Date: June 2, 1971
Time: Unknown between 8:55 am and 9:20 am
Location: Oval Office

The President dictated a memorandum to Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.

     Drug abuse studies
          -Heroin addicts who started on marijuana
          -Federal agencies as sources of information
          -Dr. Bertram S. Brown, director, National Institute of Mental Health

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If you read some kind of a study in parentheses, don't make a capital case on this.
Just try to get me some reliable information that I can use to help with those parentheses.
On the percentage of heroin addicts who started on marijuana.
as compared to the percentage of heroin addicts who use marijuana.
I'm sure this must be in the files of one of the agencies and it is not desperately wrong with the research that's in the agencies.
Brown and the National Institute of Mental Health
Should even have this number.
All right.