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Start Date: 3-Jun-1971 12:40 PM

End Date: 3-Jun-1971 1:57 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:16:02

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:19:51

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509b.mp3

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NARA Description:

On June 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:40 pm to 1:57 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 509-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 509-9

Date: June 3, 1971
Time: 12:40 pm - 1:57 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

     Gifts for sitting and former members of Congress
           -Compacts for wives
           -Costs
           -Cufflinks
                  -Stephen B. Bull

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:40 pm

          -Number of compacts

Bull left at unknown time before 1:26 pm

     Presidential gifts
          -Ashtrays

     Legislation
          -Government reorganization
                -Vote
                -Peace Corps

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:40 pm

     Presidential gifts
          -Compacts
          -Paperweights
          -Cost

Bull left at an unknown time before 1:26 pm

     President’s schedule
          -Meeting with Kenneth B. Keating
                -Henry A. Kissinger’s recommendation
          -Meeting with Robert J. Dole
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          -Meeting with Indian Foreign Minister Swaran Singh
              -Kissinger’s recommendation
              -Indira Gandhi
              -William P. Rogers


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                                                           Conv. No. 509-9 (cont.)
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     INDIA-PAKISTAN


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     Keating

     May Day demonstrations
         -Ronald L. Ziegler’s briefing
              -Appearance of police chiefs

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:40 pm

     Ziegler’s schedule
          -Briefing
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Bull left at an unknown time before 1:26 pm

     Press briefing
           -Police officials
           -Charles W. Colson

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:40 pm
                                                               Conv. No. 509-9 (cont.)
     Ziegler’s location
          -Schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 1:26 pm

     Press briefing
           -Colson
           -May Day demonstrations
                 -Press reaction

     President’s schedule
          -Meeting with Keating
                -Meeting with Indian Foreign Minister
                -Kissinger
          -White House reception for Advertising Council
          -June 7 meeting with homebuilders
                -Support for President’s policies
          -John B. Connally
          -Rescheduling of Rochester trip
                -Tricia Nixon’s wedding
          -Meeting with Senegalese official
          -Rochester trip
                -University’s schedule
                -Mayors’ meeting
          -Maine trip
                -[Forename unknown] Dreyfus [?]
                -Views of John A. Scali, John N. Mitchell
                -New Hampshire
                -Itinerary
          -Medical group in Atlantic City, New Jersey
          -Press conference
          -[Forename unknown] Hufty dinner
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         -New Hampshire
              -Mitchell
              -President’s previous campaigns
         -Maine


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                                                           Conv. No. 509-9 (cont.)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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         -Atlantic City
         -Rochester, New York
         -Maine
         -Hufty dinner
         -Possible Chicago trip
               -American Association of Retired Persons [AARP]
               -Milk producers
               -AARP
               -Thursday night press conference
         -California trip
               -Florida
               -Kissinger
               -Midway Island
         -Florida trip
         -Press
         -AARP
         -California
               -Midway Island
         -California
         -Press conference
               -Congress
         -Republican National Committee [RNC] meeting
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Automobile testing
    -Automobile Testing Center, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
    -Ohio

Foreign Technology Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio
     -Possible move to Florida
          -Number of personnel affected
          -Reasons for move                                     Conv. No. 509-9 (cont.)
          -Location
                -Patrick Air Force Base, Florida
          -Support of Edward J. Gurney
          -Opposition of William B. Saxbe
          -Considerations
                -Budget
                -Politics
                -Clark MacGregor

May Day demonstrations
    -Department of Justice
         -Position on posting bond for demonstrators
               -Mitchell
               -Constitutional arguments
    -Compensation for damages
         -Supplemental appropriations bill
               -Amount

President’s schedule
     -Meetings with John B. Connally and George P. Shultz
     -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
     -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
     -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
           -Colson
                 -Efforts to insure “equal time”
     -Morning meeting with Mitchell and Connally
     -White House briefing for chief state school officers
           -Federal education programs
           -Revenue sharing
     -Post Office
           -Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
           -Retirement from the Cabinet
           -Launching the Postal Service
                 -Ceremonies
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                -Reorganization
                      -Effects
           -Cabinet dinner
                -Location
                -Attendees
                      -Secretaries
                      -Under secretaries
                      -Agency heads                                   Conv. No. 509-9 (cont.)
           -Possible Wisconsin trip
                -National Association of Counties
           -Knights of Columbus dinner in New York City
                -Number of attendees
           -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW] function in August
           -Rose Garden concerts for undiscovered artists
                -Leonard Garment and Lucy A. Winchester
           -Outdoor events
                -Temperature
                -Bull
           -Jewish groups
           -Council of Foreign Relations dinner in New York City
                -Kissinger’s views
                -David Rockefeller
                -Conservatives’ views
                      -Herbert C. Hoover
                      -John Foster Dulles
                      -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                      -General Douglas MacArthur
                -Kissinger

Ziegler entered at 1:26 pm

     Ziegler’s previous press briefing

     Announcement of Rochester visit

     Ziegler’s previous press briefing
          -Federal-sponsored life insurance for law enforcement officers
                -Amount
          -Government insurance for servicemen killed in Vietnam
                -Amount
          -New York City police commissioner Patrick V. Murphy
                -Comments about President’s meeting with police officials
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         -White House meeting with police chiefs
               -William E. Kirwan
               -Mitchell, J. Edgar Hoover
               -Frank L. Rizzo
               -Peter J. Pitchess’ comments
               -Newsmen’s questions to Ziegler
               -William A. Gill, Jr.
         -Newsmen                                                   Conv. No. 509-9 (cont.)
               -Attitude
               -Forrest Boyd
               -Jerald F. (“Jerry”) terHorst
               -Comments by police chiefs
               -Police officials’ comments to Ziegler
         -Political questions
               -Newsmen’s questions to Ziegler
               -Eisenhower, Franklin D. Roosevelt
               -Ziegler’s comments to newsmen
               -Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr., Edmund S. Muskie, Hubert H. Humphrey,
                     Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy


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[Duration: 53s ]


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         -Unknown reporter’s question
              -Los Angeles police commissioner Edward M. Davis
              -Response
         -Treatment of press
         -Press conferences
              -Questions
              -Dan Rather’s comments contrasted with Roger H. Mudd’s comments
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CBS news
    -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
    -Rather

President’s press conferences
     -Follow-up questions
     -Newsmen’s concerns
     -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew                          Conv. No. 509-9 (cont.)
     -May Day demonstrators

Vote on Los Angeles police pension funds
     -Police chief Davis
     -Vote distribution by ethnicity
     -Jewish community

President’s press conferences
     -Follow-up questions
           -Value to President
           -Mood of press
           -Issues
                 -Public sector jobs
                 -Revenue sharing

Press releases
      -Energy message
           -Edward L. Morgan
      -Housing message
           -Timing

Press
        -Attitude
        -Previous administrations

Drugs
     -Problem in military
     -Ziegler’s comments
          -Lyndon B. Johnson
     -Colson
     -Unknown veteran’s comments regarding heroin and marijuana
     -Extent of problem
          -Popular perceptions
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             -President’s program
                   -Upcoming announcement

     Radio speeches

Bull entered at an unknown time after 1:26 pm

     President’s schedule                                          Conv. No. 509-9 (cont.)

Bull left at an unknown time before 1:57 pm

     Radio speeches
          -Schedule
          -Location

     Press
             -Attitudes at press conferences
             -Johnson
             -Reaction to President

     Unemployment statistics
         -Compared to earlier statistics

     Vietnam
          -Casualties
               -Causes
          -Press reports

Haldeman and Ziegler left at 1:57 pm