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I guess this will change as the Nicaraguan Foreign Minister and Senator Meyer are not going to be standing by and not navigating this asshole.

This has all changed, CSI.

Well, anyway.

Is that Henry's line?

Yeah, that's good.

Yeah, that's not right.

The other end of that line.

Are they coming at 7.30 also?

No, sir.

They arrived at 8.

Okay.

Mrs. Somoza and the Sakasis.

That's right.

They'll be brought up.

We'll receive that once you and President Somoza join us.

We were still fighting a couple days ago, earlier in the day.

Oh, is that right?

Yeah.

But they wanted us to have an arrival.

Now, we never did get to an arrival, but we were escalating rapidly, and we could have gotten to one.

I had an entering program, fine.

He was in full agreement with me, you know, just do the 7.30 now.

We weren't going to do anything.

He said you had to, and he bought the 7.30, but then taking his people, I guess, pressure from state or somebody.

It's a basic process, because he's trying to record everything.

And you give him the, now adding the wives to the dinner, and he said that was more of an occasion.

I didn't know we had a separate... batch of stuff, but I think... part of that.

Next to the roof, one of the people you got, they're going to have 30 days of lunch time.

Oh, you got it.

John Hughes was going to give me a list of people who were in the class who were there and outstanding.

I guess he definitely didn't see it.

What he was going to give me was the list of people that there aren't a hell of a lot of people.

One of them was my answer to the conversation.

All these matters that we just had.

I was going to ask you, would you tell Riley to go in and take somebody else so that I can get out in 15 minutes' time?

Talk about 620.

Talk about 620 so we might want to have a spot like that.

Okay, essentially.

Uh, what will a scout for a fire engine prove?

I was trying to suggest one thing that is not even any other to be borne in mind.

I realize that it's hard to get out of Japan.

They got a young group, you know, like that, and so when you put them in a room together, they all wanted their own hotel.

Oh, yeah.

I meant that they applaud and so forth and so on.

They're enthusiastic.

And it's terribly hard.

You know, any of our crowd is, you know, like when our chief of state comes and applauds us.

All right.

That's right.

You don't, you know, well, people just say, you know, how about, you know, we thank the God and have a speech on the door and nothing comes out.

I just feel that we're trying to show, if we were trying to show enthusiasm for you, we didn't show it a whole lot out there today.

I mean, they were nice.

They were pleasant.

So, which is good to me.

Yeah.

All right.

America's a good place.

It's fine.

I know I can

their television picture.

But it's the old shot of the portico in the background, then the boys.

The old story of like the time we had the astronauts bob out of tubes.

Yeah.

The thing in the back, it's a question of do you want a great picture or do you want a feeling of excitement, of enthusiasm, you know?

But it's my general feelings with the group that we really want them.

I think it's an awful good picture of just you with the kids, because the expressions on their faces and the tremendous solace of the cameras, and everyone on the camera.

It's pretty much that idea of just

He feels very strongly that my showing's a little out of range.

He said, you know, I did what I might have said.

And he said, you know, I got bad at one thing.

And I said, now look, there's a lot of other subjects in action situations other than what a 12,000-rattling bunch of demonstrators did when they came here to Washington.

Let's get on with the next subject.

Kennedy used to do that, son.

He used to try to depress.

He'd say, I mean, there's nothing, you know, I'm accomplishing anything by pulling the hammer away.

That or something, it doesn't make any sense.

I mean, he sort of...

I don't know if he could.

He'd get away with it.

Well, you'd get away with it with the people.

The people are with you.

You can't get depressed all the time.

What the hell do you care?

They like it when you do it.

Sometimes.

There's a day he did anyway, but...

It probably would be effective.

Well...

I wonder...

I asked Connor to raise the subject with me himself.

I thought you said it was Charles that raised it this morning.

Yeah, I did.

It wasn't this morning.

Always having the customization to pick up all this stuff.

It's a hell of a thing.

I told, uh, I told, uh, uh, Colin, bring it in.

I'll give him a certificate or something.

Okay.

I think that's a good thing to do.

So that's constantly good.

Let's get some stuff here.

I don't know.

Yeah.

That's what started up a little bit.

You know, I think I should just start my own opinion charge.

You know, see, we're putting a man down over here in Chappie.

And he's there in the White House, and we're going to take him to National, and other agencies, and so forth.

We'll reward people.

And this time, the other day, it hasn't worked.

Nothing has worked out for this time.

Part of the reason is the government's been going home.

They've got corrections.

You've got to go to them.

You've got to do like Jay Edgar used to do, you know, don't arrest a son of a bitch till I get there.

And he'd walk up to the door and bang on the door.

And LaGuardia used to jump in the fire wagon and run out to the fire.

People probably used to be really worried about him.

You can't do that kind of thing.

Your people can't.

You could do something, but I wonder if you're quite sure if you're looking at this in general.

Yeah, John says, no, no, he says, no, he may not think that.

He just, I just, just, just a little, just a little, some fire.

First Congress, there is heavy enough.

Because I think he showed some energy.

He caught balloons and vandals.

Those were the words.

Maybe they were said too coolly.

You said those pretty firmly.

Yeah.

You said those, so you were looking right into the camera.

So I recall you got that.

We're taking that down.

And now to this fundamental point about this whole graph of what we do.

Those goddamn white curtains back there, can they do that, please?

Sure.

Or better still, take them off.

Reboot them for a second.

We don't need them.

Okay.

We'll tie them.

We may have to put them down.

I don't know.

Take the time back.

They've just been sticking them back.

Yeah.

It's messy.

The real question is, you know, we have always, I mean, it really goes back to the steps from that whole period of what it is to make it.

They're very sensitive about the fact that I'm never supposed to show any emotion, you know, anger and that sort of thing.

I'm not sure that's correct.

I'm not sure, but if somebody said, I hope a lot of people like the old links, what's it called?

They're not so sure that they may be as impressed with this whole business of coolness and so forth.

Now, you've got Christ there, of course, which is totally that.

You've got to be like God.

In other words, you're cool, tempered, and this and that.

I'm not so sure.

I think it's a very fine line, and there is a need, if you're going to make an issue,

Now then, you've got to hit something.

Conley said he got an enormously behavioral reaction when he said immunity.

Because he cracked.

He stood up for America.

He kicked people out of the water.

Conley got surprised.

That's what helped Agnew.

At the time that he did it, he's not a word now.

He's become peevish now.

He's whining.

He's fighting, and he comes back to it every time.

How about that?

He's like, he issues a lot of strength.

Well, it's not getting mad at your kids or your employees or anything else.

It's good to do, but you've got to do it on purpose, when it serves your purpose, not just all the time.

Having this was his goal.

That's all I should have understood.

Maybe that wasn't the one to use it on, to be frank, but you may not think it.

What I meant is, what I meant is such a,

Nothing could be that kind of thing.

Oh, yeah.

They were waiting on that.

I'm not going to waste that on an office press conference.

You know, you can blow it out, knock the gas all the way into the... See, I would never wait to set it on the surface.

I would never, I would never give them the chance to pick something up.

Yeah, because then they, then they fight for it all.

Then they check.

The way they describe it would be bad.

You want to do it when people see you do it.

Absolutely.

My show's finished.

It's pretty brief about that.

Just to give you a very, very brief update on any domestic gas.

I just want a little update on the stuff.

Yeah, I want to keep my writing on the desk.

I have dumb things for next week.

Last week, my honor, the last one that came out of the first, but I think now it's reverted to the control of this California thing.

It's going to be hard.

I think he's right about the...

I'm not sure he's right about the honorary champion.

I'm not sure it means all that much.

He may be having a hang-up there.

I mean, the honorary champion means a goddamn thing.

Well, except that it does it to Reagan, but it does, it gives his people a handle, and that's what Bob's concerned about.

There's some reason for concern there.

Mitchell cares a lot.

You're going to have Bob Walker running around.

I see.

He's not going to run the campaign.

I don't know why Mitchell can't just talk to Reagan, though, and just spell that out.

Why do they say he's not going to be out?

Pretty good setup, then, to do this, don't you think?

They continue to go so bad.

I mean, they did look particularly bad last night.

They had granules and sobs.

They were mean.

They were.

Most of us don't have breathing, you see.

Gratitude.

I mean, she's got to be very careful.

I hope we see her.

I mean, just touch her.

Last night we were pretty much on that issue.

I don't see how that could have come out very strongly.

I get the advantage of repetition with a very strong point, strongly made.

I don't see how that could have made any questions or any doubt.

But the O.H.

readers, they say, well, Halloween is a cool weekend, right?

Now listen to the fact Bob, a lot of them go back basically, not to the campaign.

It wasn't the campaign, but to that one miserable production job.

Just one.

It's not the campaign.

Nobody ever raised any questions.

I personally had no reason to.

My teachers at the campaign were highly responsible.

They weren't arguing.

You know what I mean.

None of them started fighting.

But that was just one thing.

I remember we had Mr. That's what it was.

So he was, I guess, but he never told us.

Yeah, he told Bill, but he also said there wasn't, you know, he wasn't asked.

That he was told to put it on.

He pointed out the problems of all the billions.

He was told to try and solve them.

So he did.

He tried to solve them.

I don't know how that is.

cool stuff and so forth.

Whether really you're getting, whether you get across a strong enough image, that's what we're talking about.

That's what the cool tones mean.

The reason T is the cool medium, you should be cool generally.

You can use some iPhones, you know.

That might be one.

I don't think you want to come on, you know, come charging in there all the time.

First question, banging away.

That ain't the coolest, but then a little righteous indignation or something like that on a particular point where there's a reason for it.

It might be sort of a spice that picks it up, changes the tone a little bit, builds the conflict.

If you argue that the medium, that the device is a good one because of the conflict, then that conflict ought to be sharpened.

There should be a little ebb and flow in the conflict.

There should be the touch of humor, and then there should be the touch of sharpness.

So they got, so they've seen how they've changed.

So it's a little fight for range, yeah.

But there's some fight there.

They ought to feel good about it.

It should be bitterness.

It should be...

querulousness or anything like that, but it should be just, uh...

Naturally, you can't do it, but why should you feel like doing it?

Well, it would have been easy to be natural on that one last night.

Really?

Oh, well, not really.

I get under complete control in those kind of cases, and I just... You'd have to say that.

You'd have to be under control.

You couldn't let it irritate you.

You couldn't do it if you were mad.

But you'd have to do it where it would be natural to be.

I've had money for a case to be able to pay them off.

It's totally unfair, totally, where they say that you have taken on pretty...

I guess you've done it cool.

You've done it as a child as far as you're concerned.

The elections appreciate it.

Maybe Anderson.

Maybe that guy out there.

He'll come in every day.

And the facts are, you don't know whether he'd like to see a knockoff.

He doesn't like to see somebody come up.

Yeah.

Rockets.

They've got to remember four days.

Drugs, they're not going to forget anyway.

See, because you'll state the premise there.

Even if they didn't hear you do it.

Right.

You're going to say it.

You'll say, President Nixon said he is opposed to legalizing marijuana.

Do you agree or disagree?

Okay.

And that's a drug.

On the other hand, you won't quite state the premise.

No, but you, yeah.

I think what they're going to remember is that in the calls you had, most everybody mentioned that.

Yeah.

In the Christian survey, only half or someone less than half will have seen the press conference.

Half the people you're talking to won't have seen it anyway.

We get the answer from everybody, not just the people who saw the press conference.

We can separate it and look at it and see whether it made a difference.

Yeah.

It's been really worth holding this week.

What do you think?

We just spent all the money we needed.

I've got all this time on the verge of a poll.

When the hell are we going to have a show really until after we have a major foreign policy breakthrough problem?

I'd like to see.

I'd like to poll before I go to the wedding.

I'd like to see what the wedding does.

You do?

Yeah.

I don't know why, because we can't stage another one.

You know, one builds on the other.

All right.

I'd push for more polls.

I used to.

push or not pulling.

It's been good to pull intensively as we have.

We've learned a lot on how to use them.

And what's to save the money?

I don't know.

And we don't need to save the money.

I don't see any reason to save the money.

I just, when you think, you know, we can run half a dozen polls with a cost over one minute spot on television.

The information is there.

All right, polls are worth a lot more to us.

And we get other questions in.

We get our, you know, get the China question, the Uber question, the BP question.

There's other things we... Well, I think it's worth, like the marijuana question, I think it's worth getting, yeah.

All right, let it go.

You may get a lot more than I think, and the kids should avoid us missing out.

You know, don't think shit about us.

Really, I don't want to use you.

They don't think you did much.

Why?

Because they know us better.

They think the only deterrent you have is moving on.

They know it slows them down.

It's a real time to dinner.

I don't think a lot of fun.

Thank God there's no more of these.

It's so hard to do that.

It's impossible.

I mean, there's some fucking shit out of me.

I'm forced to do it.

Oh, man.

I hope this man's around to be a little clear.

A little brief updating about just around the basement.

You need to take her to get together.

Now, this is only the White House question, or this time.

So, what additional questions?

This is one of them.

This.

The one I gave to Kennedy is an old lady's action.

Diamonds.

She took them out.

They'll give you that in the morning.

Okay.

All right, I got it.

Yes, sir.

Ah, John, that's so good.

I'll tell you what, this fellow, John, was in the morning.

I called him to be the...

I guess Kuro's gonna be there because I'm gonna call on him to run the meeting so that I don't have to do it.

I'm gonna just say that I'm serious and be there to talk about it.

Wait, because he said he did not do this, I'm using you all the time.

I didn't get that you couldn't step back and watch what's playing and even sing in the things where he didn't.

It's as if you're running away from him.

You can't see where it's going, so please, please hold free.

You shouldn't be without me.

You shouldn't stress about me.

responsibility you can be more effective than if you have to run it you can't i know you can't if you sit back you can watch and see where