Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 512 › Conversation 512-013

Nixon, Klein & Kearns on Legislative affairs and Photography

Friday, June 4, 1971 · 12:09 PM–12:13 PM ET · Oval Office · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Klein, Herbert G.; Bull, Stephen B.; Kearns, Henry; Mazon, Rosemary; White House photographerConversation512-013 on Tape 512 (tape position 02:23:34–02:26:23)StartFriday, June 4, 1971 at 12:09 PMEndFriday, June 4, 1971 at 12:13 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 512-013 ↗

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President Nixon met with Herbert G. Klein, Henry Kearns, and Rosemary Mazon for a brief Oval Office photo session and informal discussion. The conversation centered on Kearns’ career history and the status of pending legislation, with participants expressing cautious optimism regarding its progress. The meeting concluded after the exchange of gifts and brief personal anecdotes.

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Mr. President, we need to seek support from you.

That's all right.

We'll be back in just a minute.

You can see it first.

Okay.

Two, three.

Thank you very much.

with the books and all this stuff.

All right, very good.

Final shot, sir.

Outer each other.

I think at each other, sir, it's all casual shots.

I'm cutting.

I mean, we're all together.

It's because he knows the boss from the sandbox that he had it on hand.

I don't even know how to say it.

Oh, I don't even know how to say it.

I don't even know how to say it.

for how long.

That was my third time.

Yeah.

I mean, no, it was bad.

Yeah.

Oh, that was when I was in the career.

I had to do it.

I had to come up with it.

It was the first thing I ever used to do when I was in the community.

And I used to speak with the average person.

We've got something very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,

I'll give you another one.

Well, we got one more job and we're getting to the house.

We expect to be reported out the weekend next.

It looks good, but of course you know what's happening now, so we kind of redoubted what that is.

So we don't know just exactly what to get.

I think we'll have to come further on it than anybody thought was possible.

There's no good unless we get the final one.

If you have your tickets, that's what we need.

Thank you very much.

If you've been to that, what was that bar you used to go to?

I don't remember.

Oh, Henry Gordon.

Gordon.

Oh, yeah.

NARA Description

On June 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Herbert G. Klein, Stephen B. Bull, Henry Kearns, Rosemary Mazon, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:09 pm to 12:13 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 512-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 512-13

Date: June 4, 1971
Time: 12:09 pm - 12:13 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Herbert G. Klein, Stephen B. Bull, Henry Kearns, and Rosemary Mazon;
the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting

     Arrangements for photo

     Kearns’ career

     Presentation of gifts by President

     Pending legislation

     Bar in Tokyo

Klein, et al. left at 12:13 pm

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512-014 12:14 PM · 28 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:14 pm.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 512-013, June 4, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/512-013 (accessed September 27, 2026).