{"conversationCode":"512-021","tapeNumber":512,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-512-021","startDateTime":"1971-06-04T19:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-04T19:11:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1971","startTime":"3:10 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1971","endTime":"3:11 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On June 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:10 pm and 3:11 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 512-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 512-21\n\nDate: June 4, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 3:10 pm and 3:11 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield\n\n     President’s schedule\n          -Judge Homer Ferguson\n          -President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [PFIAB]\n          -Nelson A. Rockefeller\n\nButterfield left at an unknown time before 3:11 pm","filename":["512-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:49:34","tapeEnd":"03:50:21","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"512-020","nextCode":"512-022","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":23.02,"text":"Mr. President, Judge Romer Ferguson has been trying to treat us quite a bit."},{"start":23.04,"end":24.1,"text":"He just says it's... Mr. President, he's very honest."},{"start":24.12,"end":24.76,"text":"There's not any reason for this."},{"start":24.78,"end":26.23,"text":"The first time I was just before your restaurant, he was eating a co-op."},{"start":26.25,"end":26.81,"text":"Well, I tried to rebuke him."},{"start":26.83,"end":27.25,"text":"I'm sorry about this."},{"start":27.27,"end":27.81,"text":"I'm sorry about this death."},{"start":27.83,"end":28.15,"text":"It's quite true."},{"start":28.17,"end":28.49,"text":"It's quite true."},{"start":28.51,"end":29.03,"text":"He just wouldn't allow it."},{"start":29.05,"end":29.35,"text":"He's not upset."},{"start":29.37,"end":29.65,"text":"Well, after..."},{"start":30.57,"end":47.55,"text":"... ... ... ... ..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met to coordinate the President’s upcoming schedule and administrative appointments. The discussion focused on managing the activities and potential interactions of Judge Homer Ferguson, including his involvement with the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB). They also touched upon scheduling considerations regarding Nelson A. Rockefeller.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Homer Ferguson","PFIAB","Nelson Rockefeller","White House administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:41:37.211Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","homer-ferguson","pfiab","nelson-rockefeller","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":48,"audioFiles":[{"file":"512-021.mp3","bytes":1905701,"durationSec":47.51,"bitrate":320865,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:49.684Z","transcriptGapSeconds":40,"transcriptGapShare":0.83,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/512-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/512-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/512/conversation-512-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}