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Start Date: 7-Jun-1971 11:50 AM

End Date: 7-Jun-1971 12:34 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.Shultz, George P.Butterfield, Alexander P.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 05:19:50

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 05:59:43

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NARA Description:

On June 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:50 am to 12:34 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 512-029 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 512-29
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                                        Tape Subject Log
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Date: June 7, 1971
Time: 11:50 am - 12:34 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman
[Recording begins while the conversation is in progress]
                                                                      Con. No. 512-27 (cont.)
     American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organization [AFL-CIO]
         -Unknown man’s opinion
         -Committee on Political Education [COPE]
         -Martin C. (“Marty”) Anderson
               -Possible efforts
         -Clark MacGregor
               -Efforts for Richard T. Burress
         -Burress
               -Appointment
               -G. Harrold Carswell
         -Compulsory membership
         -Anderson’s role

     President’s schedule
          -Richard B. Ogilvie
                -Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe

George P. Shultz entered at 11:56 am

     Shultz’s schedule

     Jaffe
             -Announcement

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 11:56 am

     President’s schedule
          -Unknown girl

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 12:34 pm

     Jaffe
             -President’s conversation with Ogilvie
             -Announcement of position
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           -Wording
     -President’s schedule
     -Attacks by liberal columnists

Drug abuse
     -President’s program
           -Time magazine
           -Nature and extent                                   Conv. No. 512-29 (cont.)
           -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting with Elliot L. Richardson, Department of
                 Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
           -Richardson
     -Jaffe

Federal appointments
     -University of Chicago
     -Other universities
           -University of California
           -Ohio State University
     -Jaffe
           -Relationship to Arthur B. Laffer

Drug abuse
     -President’s program
           -Efforts by Ehrlichman
           -Retention in military
                -Vietnam
                -Jaffe’s views
                -Length
           -Public relations efforts
                -Opponents’ views

Housing integration statement
    -Timing
    -Wedding news

Shultz’s schedule
     -Strategic Air Command
           -FA-5 problem
           -Base in Omaha
     -Daughter’s graduation
           -Treatment of Shultz
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President’s energy message
     -Reaction in Denver

Legislation
     -Government reorganization
           -Shultz’s testimony before Chet Holifield’s Committee on Reorganization, June 7
           -Holifield’s views
           -Senate                                                 Conv. No. 512-29 (cont.)
                 -John B. Connally’s forthcoming testimony
     -Revenue sharing
           -Wilbur D. Mills’ statements
           -Barber B. Conable, Jr.
                 -Conversation with Shultz
                 -Statement regarding Mills
                 -Conversation with Larry Woodruff
           -Poll results
                 -Federal versus state power
                       -South
                 -Cutback of services
           -Public relations
                 -Politics
                 -Public awareness
           -Poll results
                 -Federal versus state power
                       -Breakdowns by region
                 -Domestic Council meeting, June 8

Poll
       -Issues
             -Education
       -Confidentiality

Domestic Council meeting, June 8
    -Purpose
    -Timing
    -Attendees

Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
     -Forthcoming party
          -Attendees
               -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
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Domestic council meeting, June 8
     -Attendees
     -Agenda
     -Length
           -President’s previous meeting with Homebuilders’ Association
     -Connally’s instructions to staff
     -Unconventional ideas
                                                               Conv. No. 512-29 (cont.)
President’s previous meeting with Homebuilders
     -Labor-management legislation
           -Congress
           -Maurice H. Stans
           -Need for crisis
                 -Compared with postal reform
           -Need for frankness

National economy
     -Herbert Stein
     -Laffer
     -Paul W. McCracken
     -Arthur F. Burns
     -Stein’s actions in staff meeting
     -Possible change in policy
           -Connally’s views
           -Wage and price controls
                 -Connally
                 -Possible effect
                 -Burns’ views
                       -Steel
                 -Federal Reserve Board member’s views
     -Consumer Price Index [CPI]
     -Wholesale prices
     -Unemployment
     -Inflation
           -Federal deficit
           -Domestic monetary situation
     -Burns
           -William McChesney Martin
     -Milton Friedman
           -Views
                 -Expansion
                 -Inflation
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/08)



                           -Federal Reserve
                     -International monetary situation
          -Poll
                -Consumer confidence
                      -University of Michigan
                      -Dyer survey [?]
                      -International monetary situation
          -Consumer confidence                                      Conv. No. 512-29 (cont.)
                -Burns’ view
                -Spending patterns
                      -Sears, Roebuck & Co., Montgomery Ward, J. C. Penney
                      -Automobiles
                -Television news reports
                      -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
          -Paul A. Volcker’s statement regarding stock market
                -Stephen B. Bull
          -Stein
                -Experience in 1970
          -Durable goods
          -Housing
          -Poll
                -Phraseology
                -Consumer confidence
                      -Employment
                      -Wages
                      -Prices/inflation
          -President’s schedule
                -Friedman

     Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting with HEW officials

Ehrlichman and Shultz left at 12:34 pm