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Conversation 512-032

TapeTape 512StartMonday, June 7, 1971 at 12:41 PMEndMonday, June 7, 1971 at 1:10 PMTape start time06:07:02Tape end time06:15:40ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Butterfield, Alexander P.;  Woods, Rose MaryRecording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On June 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:41 pm to 1:10 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 512-032 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 512-32

Date: June 7, 1971
Time: 12:41 pm - 1:10 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield

     President’s schedule
          -Peter G. Peterson group
                -Number
                -Location

Rose Mary Woods entered at 12:43 pm

                       -Tricia Nixon’s wedding
                       -Blair House
                       -Tayloe House

           -American Committee on Italian Migration
               -President’s comments to Dwight L. Chapin
               -John A. Volpe
               -Rose Garden
               -White House tour
               -Time
               -Volpe’s actions on previous occasion
Butterfield left at 12:48 pm

     Tayloe House
          -Furnishings

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[Duration: 41s]

     Rose Mary Woods’s party
          -William P. Rogers and Adele (Langston) Rogers [?]
               -Picture
               -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
               -Tricia Nixon Cox’s wedding
               -Weather

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     Tayloe House
          -Operation and maintenance
               -General Services Administration [GSA]
          -Arrangements for party
               -Caterer
               -Chief [Forename unknown] Delacruz

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[Duration: 1m 21s]

     Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule
               -Possible reservations
               -Tricia Nixon Cox

The President spoke to an unknown person at an unknown time before 1:10 pm.

     The President’s schedule
          -Evening of June 8

     Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule
          -Restaurant at 1950 [?] F St.
               -Possible reservations

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Recording was cut off at an unknown time before 1:10 pm
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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We're not having anything in the residence this week.
Yeah, this comes back to Pete Peterson's.
And we're going to have to stay down.
Want to go back to the stateroom?
How many?
Oh, I don't know.
Because your private is only... How many?
Sixty and a half.
Sixty?
Yes.
With the theater will take that money.
It's crowded with the theater will take that money.
It'll see me.
Well, how would it be, uh...
Sit down.
The theater is a long, narrow room, and I just never felt that things came off very well in the theater.
But I'll take your judgment.
If you have a theater, I'll get on it.
A little bit.
Thank you.
It's a slide presentation.
You're not talking about getting into your room over in the EOB, are you?
Yeah.
Yeah, we were.
We didn't want to do that, but we're trying to.
But you can't because of the tuition fees for all of them.
All of them, right.
You can't use that room at all.
Well, how about using the, how about Black House?
Doesn't it have a big room now?
It's extended, I think.
They're working on a room.
Excuse me, they're working on a room.
We've got a big reception area.
They can have all the rooms there.
We're ready to do it, but you can just stay in there for the reception.
If you could, would you see that Blair Cross would be out of it with 60 over there?
And I'll say, well, they'd like to go see it anyway.
I heard that they were going to put on a new reception.
I don't know whether it's all decorated or anything.
Well, I'll check it out.
If that won't work, then it's the bigger.
And the bigger is all right.
I'll put them down there and have a look.
and have the reception over and the library.
Yeah, the library.
I had 60 people for cocktails and 60 people for dinner upstairs.
Up in the dining room, there's a playing room for that, or down in the living room.
Yeah, it's beautifully done.
It's under the, the judge's home or something like that.
Right next door to you and Cora's playing room.
Judge's chambers.
I don't know about Blair House, but due to the fact that Blair House is considered to be the president of CCNI, these guys, you know, I think they do a more impressive Blair than that.
Yeah, Blair is accurate.
It's just a comment that a lot of those guys don't remember Blair House.
And unless we've got this American debate on Italian migration tomorrow at noon, and you, of course, you said the chamber this Saturday about not using Rosegard for stuff again, well, that's true.
They're $200,000.
What in the name of Christ is that?
Tomorrow at noon, they're $200,000.
They're one of Opie's things?
We're just going out to greet them.
I don't think it's, I don't know, it's an Opie thing or not.
It's simply a greeting.
All right, I'll use Rosegard, but I want no, uh... No, it's not that.
To come in the office is not a handshake.
It's simply a greeting.
But there are $200,000.
Well, they can't take a White House tour.
You're not getting my tour, are you?
We're not getting any tours this week.
What the hell will they see then?
What time of the day is it?
We've got to get them to start to see something, Alex.
It's at 12 o'clock.
Oh, I'll get out of here.
Is this supposed to be?
No, it's not.
So we have to ask, because remember last time he bitch-fighted the victims.
He had those 150 lawyers who wanted me to take off a half-hour to shake their hands, and I couldn't do it.
I don't mind if that's what they want to spend a half-hour time, but I've got to know whether, you see, now you be sure that they know in this one that I...
that I am or am not going to be expected to spend a half-hour.
It says ten minutes on the schedule.
And I don't lie.
I'll do the half-hour.
That's what the money's the time for.
But I must know.
Yes, sir.
But tell both of you in advance.
Yes, sir.
Because he told them.
He burned the whole thing out to them.
That's the thing.
It definitely was if I was supposed to shake hands with him.
And he had been told in advance ten times that I wasn't going to.
So I just want to know, either one way or the other.
No kidding with you, man.
How'd the party go?
It was a beautiful party.
Good.
It really is a lovely place to have it because they have lovely oil rugs.
They must have been married right after he was graduating.
See, on the very bench.
That's it.
So you see, because he, I knew that this was his year.
We had great, we had a big picture blown up of the two of them.
And Betty didn't know any about it.
The doctor was going to be a part of it.
She called me on the phone and she said she was so surprised.
She was so surprised.
She saw that big blow up of their picture and it was so, they were so angry.
Well, Pat, the kids wanted, for once wanted to stay overnight.
So I said, is that because I had said last night...
It wasn't bad up there.
It was much better.
It was very hot.
Very hot.
But it was nice over there.
That's why I mentioned that building itself.
It isn't as though it's just another house.
It is one that's a... somebody from Ohio owns for a while.
Oh, I see.
It's a lovely place.
Anybody can use it.
From any presidential appointee or something.
It's run by GSA.
And beautifully kept up.
The second floor you put a beautiful staircase in.
A stairway.
And then they had, last night, six tables of ten.
Little candles.
Yes, I had Ron Jackson.
He runs the mess.
You know, and they take a couple of those from Santa Maria.
Yeah.
Oh, I want you to check on the thing.
I've been trying to get Pat to go over this.
1925.
She said she'd like to go.
Would you call to see if they're, first, they may not be open, and they're not their guests.
Second, they are open.
If, uh, you get, uh,
I don't know, you see what I mean?
They may have a whole party going on.
But we would, I think, and Christian has never been there.
See, I just thought we'd, you know, it's a good time to smoke some fudge.
I've got a dagger.
I don't know.
So that's one.
That's one.
That's one.
That's one.
That's one.
I don't need to check that.
You want me to check that?
I've already checked that.
Sure.
Thank you.
If we just, like, combined for old time's sake, and wondered if there was a way we could do it, and there just wouldn't be one of us.
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