{"conversationCode":"513-005","tapeNumber":513,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-513-005","startDateTime":"1971-06-07T20:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-07T20:46:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Jun-1971","startTime":"4:41 PM","endDate":"7-Jun-1971","endTime":"4:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On June 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:41 pm to 4:46 pm. 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Winchester\n                            -Refreshments\n                                 -Manolo Sanchez\n\n     Willy Brandt dinner\n          -Arthur F. Burns invitation","filename":["513-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:00:18","tapeEnd":"02:06:11","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"513-004","nextCode":"513-006","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":19.07,"text":"So I think we're going to have to go in the theater for that thing a while."},{"start":19.09,"end":20.68,"text":"The player house has a perfect room, but it won't be ready for another 30 days."},{"start":20.7,"end":21.36,"text":"Oh, there's no furniture."},{"start":21.38,"end":21.48,"text":"Good."},{"start":21.5,"end":23.42,"text":"I think I'll have the reception portion over here in the conference room."},{"start":23.44,"end":24.96,"text":"I'm going to escape rather than the rest of escape."},{"start":24.98,"end":25.08,"text":"Okay."},{"start":25.1,"end":25.9,"text":"Is he moving over here to the reception?"},{"start":25.92,"end":25.98,"text":"No."},{"start":26,"end":26.24,"text":"Why do that?"},{"start":26.26,"end":26.88,"text":"I don't think that's a problem."},{"start":28.35,"end":54.56,"text":"Just so the residents people"},{"start":59.23,"end":66.94,"text":"in the library, and the next year they're there."},{"start":66.96,"end":69.04,"text":"So that the other staff doesn't do it."},{"start":69.06,"end":75.57,"text":"Why don't you talk to Lucy and say, look, I can't have them walk over here."},{"start":75.59,"end":76.61,"text":"I'll offer them."},{"start":76.63,"end":77.33,"text":"I just want to offer them."},{"start":77.35,"end":78.35,"text":"I'll make the drinks myself."},{"start":78.37,"end":81.29,"text":"Perhaps there's nothing to it."},{"start":81.39,"end":82.78,"text":"Tell them to let the firehouse staff off."},{"start":82.95,"end":83.62,"text":"We know they're going to be busy."},{"start":84.36,"end":92.65,"text":"I'm going to give him a drink afterwards."},{"start":92.73,"end":95.13,"text":"Now, no hors d'oeuvres."},{"start":95.51,"end":98.21,"text":"No hors d'oeuvres."},{"start":98.43,"end":99.37,"text":"I just want a drink."},{"start":99.56,"end":101.1,"text":"We're told it's a very short reception, 40 minutes."},{"start":101.12,"end":103.7,"text":"Well, just make it clear that there are no hors d'oeuvres, just drinks."},{"start":103.72,"end":105.52,"text":"You'd like a cocktail afterwards, and that's very easy, Jesus Christ."},{"start":105.54,"end":106.64,"text":"I could have it, I could do it, but no one can do it."},{"start":106.66,"end":107.14,"text":"Just let him do it."},{"start":107.17,"end":108.35,"text":"So you can get a drink from over here at any time."},{"start":108.37,"end":109.33,"text":"All right."},{"start":109.87,"end":112.59,"text":"Well, Dr. Burns, you know, we held up on him on a guest list."},{"start":112.61,"end":113.65,"text":"He's on the guest list for Willie Brandon, shall we?"},{"start":114.48,"end":115.69,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":117.67,"end":117.97,"text":"Has to be."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield discussed logistical arrangements for an upcoming bipartisan congressional briefing, focusing on venue constraints and the exclusion of Blair House due to its current unavailability. Nixon mandated a streamlined approach for the associated reception, explicitly restricting the event to drinks only and prohibiting the serving of hors d'oeuvres. Additionally, the pair confirmed that Arthur F. Burns would be included on the guest list for an upcoming dinner honoring Willy Brandt.","topics":["Congressional briefing","Blair House","Event planning","White House logistics","Arthur F. 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