{"conversationCode":"514-010","tapeNumber":514,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-514-010","startDateTime":"1971-06-08T16:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-08T16:12:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Jun-1971","startTime":"12:12 PM","endDate":"8-Jun-1971","endTime":"12:12 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Volpe, John A.;","description":"On June 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John A. Volpe met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:12 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 514-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 514-10\n\nDate: June 8, 1971\nTime: 12:12 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with John A. Volpe\n\n     Volpe’s schedule\n\nVolpe left at 12:12 pm","filename":["514-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:48:47","tapeEnd":"01:49:28","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Volpe, John A."],"prevCode":"514-009","nextCode":"514-011","transcript":[{"start":0.88,"end":9.28,"text":"Well, look, there are railroads on the scene here, and I'm going to look at them, and I'm going to kick them."},{"start":9.3,"end":10.27,"text":"You can't have the one end go back to the other."},{"start":10.29,"end":10.55,"text":"I'll be back."},{"start":10.57,"end":11.27,"text":"Well, we'll work it out if you can."},{"start":11.29,"end":11.77,"text":"If you can't, it's okay."},{"start":11.79,"end":12.67,"text":"I'll be here to figure out what's happening."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Secretary of Transportation John A. Volpe to discuss ongoing challenges facing the railroad industry. During the brief exchange, Volpe outlined his intent to personally inspect railroad operations and address systemic inefficiencies. The two leaders agreed to continue monitoring the situation and coordinate further efforts to resolve these logistical problems.","topics":["Railroads","Department of Transportation","Infrastructure","Transportation Policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:44:42.736Z"},"topicSlugs":["railroads","department-of-transportation","infrastructure","transportation-policy"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"514-010.mp3","bytes":615236,"durationSec":15.23,"bitrate":323065,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:49.684Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/514-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/514-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/514/conversation-514-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}