{"conversationCode":"516-004","tapeNumber":516,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-516-004","startDateTime":"1971-06-10T16:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-10T16:23:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Jun-1971","startTime":"12:21 PM","endDate":"10-Jun-1971","endTime":"12:23 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.; Flanigan, Peter M.;","description":"On June 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Peter M. Flanigan met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:21 pm to 12:23 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 516-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 516-4\n\nDate: June 10, 1971\nTime: 12:21 pm - 12:23 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield and Peter M. Flanigan\n\n     Press relations\n           -Forthcoming meeting with Everett D. Collier and Philip G. Warner\n           -Background\n           -Herbert G. Klein role\n\nButterfield left at 12:22 pm\n\n     Labor relations\n          -Charlie Luna role\n                -Charles W. Colson role\n\nFlanigan left at 12:23 pm","filename":["516-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:41:31","tapeEnd":"01:42:41","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P.","Flanigan, Peter M."],"prevCode":"516-003","nextCode":"516-005","transcript":[{"start":1.5,"end":20.22,"text":"Well, you know what I get mad at is, what's the client promised I need to know before I get him in this office?"},{"start":20.24,"end":22.2,"text":"Because he's the publisher of the paper, and he's got his editor with him now, and he's no client."},{"start":22.22,"end":23.24,"text":"He never does anything failed now."},{"start":23.26,"end":24.1,"text":"I wonder what the hell he's promising."},{"start":24.12,"end":25.02,"text":"He's promising an interview I've got to know."},{"start":25.04,"end":25.52,"text":"Or what time is he, huh?"},{"start":25.54,"end":26.56,"text":"My client promised him an interview this afternoon."},{"start":26.58,"end":27.09,"text":"He's supposed to be here."},{"start":27.11,"end":27.95,"text":"And he's promising to be on screen, right?"},{"start":27.97,"end":29.45,"text":"He's a client called, but I just..."},{"start":29.95,"end":37.55,"text":"All right, here's one of our groups."},{"start":37.8,"end":41.57,"text":"The last one is called Slate."},{"start":41.59,"end":41.79,"text":"The U.N.U."},{"start":41.93,"end":43.34,"text":"is run by Charlie Luman."},{"start":43.35,"end":45.48,"text":"Charlie Luman is Chuck's, Colson's, good grandson, only son Chuck can tell us."},{"start":45.5,"end":46.71,"text":"All right, tell us."},{"start":46.73,"end":47.47,"text":"Luman has stopped holding on to that."},{"start":47.49,"end":48.81,"text":"All right, get on the private way and bring Luman in if necessary."},{"start":48.83,"end":49.23,"text":"But with us, Luman."},{"start":49.25,"end":50.12,"text":"Make it to December 5th before then, Luman."},{"start":50.14,"end":50.66,"text":"With us, Luman."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Alexander P. Butterfield and Peter M. Flanigan to coordinate upcoming press engagements and labor union strategy. The President expressed frustration regarding the scheduling of an interview with newspaper leadership and sought clarification on promises made to them by staff. Additionally, Nixon directed that Charles W. Colson facilitate communications with Charlie Luna to ensure the United Transportation Union's cooperation with the administration.","topics":["Press relations","Labor unions","Charles W. Colson","Charlie Luna","White House scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:46:59.900Z"},"topicSlugs":["press-relations","labor-unions","charles-w-colson","charlie-luna","white-house-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":51,"audioFiles":[{"file":"516-004.mp3","bytes":2030028,"durationSec":50.61,"bitrate":320880,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:49.685Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/516-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/516-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/516/conversation-516-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}