Conversation: 517-008
Prev:  517-007 Next: 517-009Start Date: 11-Jun-1971 11:58 AM
End Date: 11-Jun-1971 12:20 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Devine, Samuel L.; Timmons, William E.; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:13:54
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:36:36
NARA Description:
On June 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Samuel L. Devine, and William E. Timmons met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:58 am to 12:20 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 517-008 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 517-8 Date: June 11, 1971 Time: 11:58 am - 12:20 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with Samuel L. Devine and William E. Timmons Greetings Support for President -Devine role -Press coverage International negotiations -Arms control with Soviets -Public perception 22 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -US and Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] interests -Give and take -Anti-Ballistic Missile [ABM] -Soviet interests -People’s Republic of China [PRC] -Eastern Europe -Berlin -Economics -Arms control -Congressional support -US negotiating position -PRC -Objectives -Soviet and Chinese competition -Leadership role -Basis of US movement -Taiwan concerns -Interplay of objectives -Soviet interest in Europe -Southeast Asia -Chinese and Soviet aid to North Vietnam -Effect on negotiations to end war -Vietnam -Prospects of success in talks -Evolution -Cambodia and Laos action -Effect on North Vietnamese -Breadth of discussions -Prisoners of War [POWs] -President’s previous meeting with John Sherman Cooper -Responsibility of Congress in talks -Democratic fears -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy statement -Relation of casualties to Laos operation -Clark M. Clifford -End of war -Credit -Cambodia resolutions -Cooper-Church amendment -Message to Supporters of President -President’s view of PRC, Soviet Union, and US interests -Devine’s constituency 23 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -PRC Grain Deal -Gerald R. Ford -American unions -Behind-the-scenes negotiations -Democratic Fears -Comparison of President with other administrations -Future of the world -John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson Conv. No. 517-8 (cont.) -Dwight D. Eisenhower Domestic affairs -Congressional-Executive relations -Public works bill -Veto prospects -Devine/Ford -Input -House Resolution [HR] 1 -Prospects -Family assistance -Carl T. Curtis bill -Republican response -Relation to welfare reform -Content -Revenue sharing -Guaranteed annual income -Workmen’s incentives -Effect on Black vote -Phil Burke [?] -Senate prospects -Timmons and John D. Ehrlichman meeting -Purpose -Ehrlichman’s role -Relation to HR 1 -Effect on Wilbur D. Mills’ prestige -Fairness -Ways and Means Committee -Tie to Social Security -Black Caucus -Previous meeting with President -Content -Demands -Cost 24 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/08) -Concern for the rest of the country -Cost of demands -Potential tax increase -Devine trip to Korea -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew -Devine trip to Israel -Devine committee assignment -Jewish vote Conv. No. 517-8 (cont.) -Support for Devine -Financial aid -Black Caucus -Meeting with the President -Black vote -Support for President -John N. Mitchell -Future meetings -Upcoming international events Devine and Timmons left at 12:20 pm