{"conversationCode":"517-013","tapeNumber":517,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-517-013","startDateTime":"1971-06-11T16:59:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-11T17:02:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Jun-1971","startTime":"12:59 PM","endDate":"11-Jun-1971","endTime":"1:02 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:59 pm and 1:02 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 517-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 517-13\n\nDate: June 11, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:59 pm and 1:02 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n                                                                 Conv. No. 517-12 (cont.)\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull\n\n     President’s schedule\n          -Barber appointment\n          -Ronald L. Ziegler briefing\n\nBull left at unknown time before 1:02 pm","filename":["517-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:13:22","tapeEnd":"03:13:47","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"517-012","nextCode":"517-014","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":5.92,"text":"What do we do with the barber?"},{"start":6.96,"end":7.47,"text":"Ziegler is still waiting."},{"start":7.49,"end":12.13,"text":"The barber is downstairs waiting for you."},{"start":12.15,"end":12.86,"text":"Well, I've got to go to the barber."},{"start":12.88,"end":13.14,"text":"Is that open?"},{"start":13.16,"end":13.34,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":13.36,"end":14.24,"text":"I'm going to interview Ziegler for a year."},{"start":17.19,"end":17.37,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":17.39,"end":18.23,"text":"I'm going to interview Ziegler for a year."},{"start":18.25,"end":19.39,"text":"Do you know where they're going to do that over there?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate his immediate schedule, specifically regarding an appointment with his barber. They also discussed an upcoming briefing with Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The conversation concluded with the President deciding to proceed with his grooming appointment despite Ziegler’s wait.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Stephen B. Bull","Ronald L. Ziegler","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:49:19.637Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","stephen-b-bull","ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":26,"audioFiles":[{"file":"517-013.mp3","bytes":1026048,"durationSec":25.56,"bitrate":321188,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:49.685Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/517-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/517-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/517/conversation-517-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}