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Conversation: 520-004

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Start Date: 15-Jun-1971 10:39 AM

End Date: 15-Jun-1971 10:59 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:47:08

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:06:39

520a.mp3

520b.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:39 am to 10:59 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 520-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 520-4

Date: June 15, 1971
Time: 10:39 am - 10:59 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger

     Meeting with Willy Brandt
          -Kissinger’s attendance
          -Photo session
          -Egon Bahr
          -Brandt
                -President’s view
                -[David] Kenneth Rush
                      -German politics
          -Ostpolitik
          -Berlin
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/08)



Kissinger’s schedule
     -Meeting with Arthur K. Watson
           -Telegram sent through State Department
                -Georges J. R. Pompidou to President
                     -Algeria
                           -Export-Import Bank
                -Leak
                                                                  Conv. No. 520-4 (cont.)
Watson
    -Invitation to Brandt dinner
          -Attendance

Vietnam
     -Troop levels
     -Kissinger role
     -Other negotiations
          -Financial arrangements
                -Possibilities

Kissinger lunch with John B. Connally
     -Updating of Connally knowledge of negotiations
           -Connally knowledge versus John N. Mitchell knowledge
           -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
           -Vietnam
           -Leak of documents
                 -William A. K. (“Tony”) Lake defense
           -Berlin negotiations with Soviet Union
           -Vietnam talks
           -Use of “Separate Channels”
           -US-Soviet talks
                 -Chances of agreements
           -Movement in negotiations
                 -Reason for secrecy
           -Knowledge of US actions by officials
                 -William P. Rogers
                 -Melvin R. Laird
                 -Mitchell
                 -Effect of Departments of State and Defense bureaucracies
                 -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                                               10

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/08)



     George S. McGovern-Mark O. Hatfield amendment
         -Hugh Scott
         -Kissinger’s talk with unknown representative
         -Gerald R. Ford role
               -Ford conversation with President
         -US position
               -Milton R. Young
               -Narcotics                                          Conv. No. 520-4 (cont.)
               -Role of military service
               -Change of context
         -Kissinger’s meeting with Henry Hubbard
               -Articles
         -Public position of administration
               -Effect of passage of McGovern-Hatfield amendment
                     -Destruction of negotiations

     New York Times disclosures (Pentagon Papers)
         -Mitchell
               -Lyndon B. Johnson
                    -Substance of articles
                    -Defense of governmental process
                          -New York Times role

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 10:47 am

          -Attorney General role
          -President’s action on assuming the Presidency
                -Assessment of policy
          -Substance of article
          -Role of previous administrations
          -Injunction from Justice Department
                -Rationale
                     -Enforcement of law
                     -Disclosure of classified material
                            -Procedures
                            -Legal requirements
                                 -Prosecution of guilty
                     -Responsibilities of administration
                     -Flexibility of position
                -New York Times response
                     -Administration response
                            -Legal process of declassification
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/08)



                             -Violation of declassification procedures
                 -Necessary procedures
                 -President’s non-involvement in “family quarrel”
                 -Responsibilities of administration
                 -Penalties for administration disclosures
                 -Max Frankel

Ziegler left at 10:54 am                                                 Conv. No. 520-4 (cont.)

     Kissinger-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin meeting
          -Advantages
               -Relation to upcoming PRC trip
               -Noncommittal acceptance of proffered document
          -Soviet desire for summit
               -Timing of response

     New York Times situation
         -Mitchell
         -Injunction
               -President’s approval
                     -Rationale

     Vietnam negotiations
          -President’s meeting with Republican Congressional leaders
                -Peter H. Dominick
                -Questions
                      -Coalition government
                -”Back channel” negotiations
                      -Results of nonsupport of President
                -Handling Congress
                      -Effect of New York Times situation during election
                -Security of files
                      -Laird role
                      -Rogers
                -Cabinet leaks
                      -Campaign problems
                -Congressional attitudes
                      -Kissinger
                      -John D. Ehrlichman
                -Reminder of Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
                -PRC trip
                      -Packaging
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/08)



                 -Soviet Union
                      -SALT

Kissinger left at 10:59 am



                                                                      Conv. No. 520-4 (cont.)