{"conversationCode":"522-008","tapeNumber":522,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-522-008","startDateTime":"1971-06-16T17:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-16T17:15:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Jun-1971","startTime":"1:04 PM","endDate":"16-Jun-1971","endTime":"1:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On June 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:04 pm and 1:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 522-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 522-008\n\nDate: June 16, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:04 pm and 1:15 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n     President’s upcoming meeting with Foreign Minister Swaran Singh\n           -Approval of participants\n                -Henry A. Kissinger\n                -Joseph J. Sisco\n                -Kenneth B. Keating\n                -Ambassador Lakshmi Kant Jha\n                -Kissinger role\n\n     Rural Electrification Youth group\n          -Schedule\n          -Clifford M. Hardin\n\nButterfield left at 1:09 pm.\n\n            -Dispersement on South Lawn\n            -President's schedule\n                  -Greeting\n            -White House tour\n            -\"Drop by\" from President\n            -Size of group\n            -Schedule\n                  -White House tour\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nHaldeman left at unknown time before 1:15 pm.","filename":["522-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:42:45","tapeEnd":"03:48:01","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"522-007","nextCode":"522-009","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":16.03,"text":"You didn't approve any of the people who were, uh, foreign ministers saying how to participate."},{"start":16.05,"end":24.6,"text":"I mean, except for Reagan back then, I was saying, Francisco will be there, Union will be there, and that's when the government will be there."},{"start":24.62,"end":24.8,"text":"I didn't."},{"start":24.82,"end":27.1,"text":"I'm just wondering sometimes, you know, if this is your place, that's not your spot."},{"start":27.12,"end":27.2,"text":"Yes."},{"start":27.22,"end":27.94,"text":"Well, you know what the PAR is now?"},{"start":27.96,"end":28.72,"text":"That's the Rural Electrification Unit."},{"start":32.28,"end":59.05,"text":"It's lost."},{"start":60.68,"end":89.12,"text":"Where did that go?"},{"start":89.97,"end":95.09,"text":"Just on the lawn, I think Art's going to greet him somewhere on the side of the lawn."},{"start":95.11,"end":104.55,"text":"There's a whole bunch of them up over here."},{"start":104.57,"end":106.75,"text":"I didn't pick long enough here, but it's not that good."},{"start":121.08,"end":142.6,"text":"It's a question of how much you can do."},{"start":142.62,"end":143.24,"text":"You couldn't do that in my day."},{"start":143.26,"end":145.4,"text":"I mean, I certainly know a lot of people who are going right, but it's not going to be true receiving ones."},{"start":145.42,"end":147.13,"text":"I mean, like the guitars are, they all want to come out and shake hands, I know that."},{"start":147.15,"end":147.93,"text":"But I'm just not in it."},{"start":148.78,"end":151.91,"text":"It was hard not to do the wedding."},{"start":151.93,"end":152.57,"text":"Well, you don't need to do it."},{"start":152.59,"end":167.08,"text":"It's just as proud of you to see they do."},{"start":167.1,"end":167.4,"text":"What did I say?"},{"start":167.42,"end":167.68,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":167.7,"end":167.8,"text":"Okay."},{"start":167.82,"end":168.16,"text":"Enthusiastically."},{"start":189.96,"end":192.13,"text":"Are they going to get a word out of the security?"},{"start":192.15,"end":195.98,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":196,"end":197.59,"text":"We'll send them out and find out."},{"start":197.61,"end":198.67,"text":"I may take a look at it."},{"start":198.69,"end":200.36,"text":"I may have to go out and say a word on it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with H. R. Haldeman and Alexander Butterfield to finalize details regarding his upcoming meeting with Indian Foreign Minister Swaran Singh, specifically confirming the list of diplomatic participants including Henry Kissinger and Kenneth Keating. The group also coordinated logistics for a visit by the Rural Electrification Youth group, discussing the President’s potential participation in greeting them on the South Lawn. Nixon weighed his scheduling constraints against the public relations value of interacting with the visiting youth group.","topics":["Foreign Policy","Diplomatic Relations","Scheduling","Public Relations","Rural Electrification Administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T22:56:34.804Z"},"topicSlugs":["foreign-policy","diplomatic-relations","scheduling","public-relations","rural-electrification-administration"],"audioDurationSec":205,"audioFiles":[{"file":"522-008.mp3","bytes":8223138,"durationSec":205.43,"bitrate":320229,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.009Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:55.015Z","transcriptGapSeconds":93,"transcriptGapShare":0.45,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/522-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/522-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/522/conversation-522-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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