Conversation: 524-015
Prev: 524-014 Next: 524-016Start Date: Thursday, June 17, 1971 3:15 PM
End Date: Thursday, June 17, 1971 4:03 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Bull, Stephen B.; Kendall, Donald McI.; Kissinger, Henry A.Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:33:17
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:22:13
NARA Description:
On June 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, Stephen B. Bull, Donald McI. Kendall, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:15 am to 12:03 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 524-015 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 524-15
Date: June 17, 1971
Time: 11:15 am - 12:03 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and Ronald L. Ziegler.
Drug statement
-Length
-Mark I. Goode
-Delivery
-Scope of administration action
-John A. Scali
-Film production using President's statement
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-Distribution
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[Privacy]
[Duration: 20s ] Conv. No. 524-13 (cont.)
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-Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe
-Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
-Jaffe
-Support of President
-Description of Jaffe
-Foreign policy
-Possible statements
-Quality
-Scope of problems
-Focus on rehabilitation
-Imprisonment
-Federal efforts
-Coordination
-Funding
-Use of government resources
-The drug "battle"
-Need for victory
Presidential statements
-Need for catch phrase
-Usage in previous bi-partisan Congressional leadership meeting
Ziegler left at an unknown time before 11:33 am.
-Need for coordination
-Richard A. Moore
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
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-Strong points
-William L. Safire
-President's role
-Press conference preparation
-Value
-President’s speechwriters
-Focus on President's strong points
-Creativity Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
President's schedule
-Donald McI. Kendall, Christian de Guigne III, and John L. McClellan visits
-Length
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Congressional relations
-de Guigne
-Use of personal touch
-McClellan visit
-Wendell Wyatt visit
-Purpose
-Regional highway office
-Election implications
-Federal projects
-Implications
-Washington
-Oregon
-Michigan
-Minnesota
-Massachusetts
-Pennsylvania
-New York
-Ohio
-Wyatt visit
-Coverage in Oregon
Presidential statements
-Staff effort
-Compromise
-Staff work combined with President's work
-Upcoming Chicago speech to the American Association of Retired Persons [AARP]
-Preparation
-Noel C. Koch
-Health statement
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-Price
-Koch
-John K. Andrews
-Lee W. Huebner
-Content
-National Institute of Mental Health [NIMH]
Wedding comments Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
-Dr. W. Kenneth Riland's comments
-Effect of wedding on President's popularity
-Men compared with women
-Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
-Impact of certain events
-Tricia Nixon Cox
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Comments of viewers
-National Broadcasting Company [NBC] rerun of wedding
-Use of additional material
-Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins photographs
-Coverage of nontelevised events
-US Navy film footage
-NBC coverage of dance
-President's role
-Childhood pictures
-Tricia Nixon Cox
Presidential statements
-Best use of President's time
-Drug policy message
-Quality
-President's role
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:15 am.
-Meeting with Donald McI. Kendall
-Henry A. Kissinger
Bull left at an unknown time before 11:33 am.
-Statements by Cabinet members
-Maurice H. Stans
-John A. Volpe
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-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Quality of information
Haldeman left and Kissinger and Kendall entered at 11:33 am.
Greetings
Wedding
-Warmth of family Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
-Public perception
New drug policy
-Announcement
Henry Hubbard call to Kissinger
-New York Times story (Pentagon Papers)
Pentagon Papers
-Stewart J.O. Alsop
-Ziegler's role in response
-Declassification of World War II and Korean War documents
-Speed of official declassification
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[Duration: 30s ]
FOREIGN AFFAIRS
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International affairs
-Egypt
-Anwar El Sadat
-Greece
-Turkey
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-Iran
-Lebanon
-Greece
-Kendall Interest
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Greek government
-US influence
-Political orientation Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
-Management ability
-Benefits to Greek people
-Brazil
-Potential
-Greece
-Coming prosperity
-Problems with elections
-Comparison with Argentina
-Economic reversals
-US policy
-Iran
-Kendall experience
-Gross National Product
-Shah's effort
-Stability
-Pakistan
-Afghanistan
-US support for Shah
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[National Security]
[Duration: 12s ]
FOREIGN AFFAIRS
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-Arab concerns
-Renunciation of claim to Bahrain
-Islands guarding entrance to Persian Gulf
-Shah's concern
-Yemen
-Communist rise
-Shah’s reforms Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
-Results
-Rising material desires
-Increased number of students
-Creation of industrial establishment
-Need to distribute wealth
-Comparison to Chile
-Organization of businessmen
-Kendall efforts
-Need for expertise
-Employee housing
-Problems
-President's actions
-Kendall’s view
-Attendance at 2500 year anniversary
-Douglas Macarthur II
-Alternative to attendance
-Lyndon B. Johnson attendance
-Iranian view of Johnson
-Shah
-Cattle ranching background
-Spiro T. Agnew attendance at anniversary
-Possibility of President's attendance at anniversary
-Coincident diplomatic efforts
-Benefits
-Benefits of Johnson attendance
-Soviet Union's response
-Agnew attendance
-Soviet response
-Nikita S. Khrushchev attendance
-Use of Johnson
Pentagon Papers
-Effect on Nixon administration
-Effect on John F. Kennedy and Johnson
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-Walt W. Rostow
Macarthur
-Future
-Stature
-Other uses
-Japan
Lebanon Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
-Economy
-Kendall meeting with President of Lebanon
-Lebanese President
-Reference to President
-Views regarding US
-Last visit by President
-Misunderstanding
Middle East
-Problems with US positions
-Support for Israel
-Money from Jewish-Americans
-Suggestion to Arabs
-Egypt
-Sadat
-Use of Gamal Abdel Nasser image
-Quality of government
-Foreign policy
-Mohammed Hassanein Heikal
-Message passage
-Kendall discussion with Heikal
-Length
-Heikal
-Handling
-William P. Rogers’ visit
-Position on Nixon doctrine
-Vietnam
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ASIA
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Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
-Egyptian progress
-Reflection on political system
-Ideological bent
-Arab and Israeli problem
Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:33 am.
Item for President
Bull left at an unknown time before 12:03 pm.
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MIDDLE EAST
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Kissinger’s schedule
-Documents
Kissinger left at 11:53 am.
Middle East
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-Heikal
-Invitation to US by Kendall
-Meeting with President
-Soviets
-Implications
-Arab view of Soviets
-Treatment of Egyptians by Soviets
-Egyptian tourism Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:53 am.
President's schedule
Bull left at an unknown time before 12:03 pm
Japan
-Meeting by Kendall with Japanese
-[Ryutaro Nemoto ?]
-Kendall Meeting with Peter G. Peterson
-Handling of Japanese by Peterson
-Threats compared with "muscle"
-Need for preparation
-Future implications
-Japanese expansion
-Recent purchases
-Shipping
-Prices
-Link to steel sales
-Peterson knowledge
-Previous Japanese deals
Algeria
-Expropriation
-Rejection of loans
Trade policy
-1950's precedent
-Marshall Plan
-Goals
-Support of foreign policy
-Reference to Peterson
-Rhetoric
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-Department of State
Anastasio Somozo
-Charles A. Meyer lecture
-Democratic government
President's tests for foreign nations
Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Trip by President
-Possibilities
-Impact
-Accomplishments of President's administration
-Vietnam
-Detente with Soviet Union
-Arms control
-PRC opening
-Taiwan
-Necessity of dealing with PRC
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TAIWAN, REPUBLIC OF CHINA
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-PRC resources
Kendall’s schedule
Gift presentation
Thanks
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Peterson
-Trade policy
-Foreign policy
Kendall left at 12:03 pm.
Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)