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Start Date: 17-Jun-1971 11:15 AM

End Date: 17-Jun-1971 12:03 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.Bull, Stephen B.Kendall, Donald McI.Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:33:17

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:22:13

524a.mp3

524b.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, Stephen B. Bull, Donald McI. Kendall, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:15 am to 12:03 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 524-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 524-15

Date: June 17, 1971
Time: 11:15 am - 12:03 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Drug statement
          -Length
          -Mark I. Goode
          -Delivery
          -Scope of administration action
          -John A. Scali
               -Film production using President's statement
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                     -Distribution


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Privacy]
[Duration: 20s ]                                                     Conv. No. 524-13 (cont.)


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                           -Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe
                           -Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
          -Jaffe
                -Support of President
                     -Description of Jaffe
          -Foreign policy
                -Possible statements
                     -Quality
          -Scope of problems
                -Focus on rehabilitation
                -Imprisonment
          -Federal efforts
                -Coordination
          -Funding
                -Use of government resources
          -The drug "battle"
                -Need for victory

     Presidential statements
          -Need for catch phrase
                -Usage in previous bi-partisan Congressional leadership meeting

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 11:33 am.

          -Need for coordination
               -Richard A. Moore
               -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
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                 -Strong points
           -William L. Safire
     -President's role
           -Press conference preparation
                 -Value
     -President’s speechwriters
           -Focus on President's strong points
           -Creativity                                          Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)

President's schedule
     -Donald McI. Kendall, Christian de Guigne III, and John L. McClellan visits
            -Length
            -Barry M. Goldwater
            -Congressional relations
                 -de Guigne
                 -Use of personal touch
                 -McClellan visit
                 -Wendell Wyatt visit
                       -Purpose
                            -Regional highway office
                       -Election implications
     -Federal projects
            -Implications
            -Washington
            -Oregon
            -Michigan
            -Minnesota
            -Massachusetts
            -Pennsylvania
            -New York
            -Ohio
            -Wyatt visit
                 -Coverage in Oregon

Presidential statements
     -Staff effort
           -Compromise
                  -Staff work combined with President's work
     -Upcoming Chicago speech to the American Association of Retired Persons [AARP]
           -Preparation
           -Noel C. Koch
     -Health statement
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                -Price
                -Koch
                -John K. Andrews
                -Lee W. Huebner
                -Content
                      -National Institute of Mental Health [NIMH]

     Wedding comments                                          Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
         -Dr. W. Kenneth Riland's comments
              -Effect of wedding on President's popularity
                    -Men compared with women
                    -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
              -Impact of certain events
              -Tricia Nixon Cox
              -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
              -Comments of viewers
         -National Broadcasting Company [NBC] rerun of wedding
              -Use of additional material
                    -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins photographs
                          -Coverage of nontelevised events
                    -US Navy film footage
                    -NBC coverage of dance
                    -President's role
                    -Childhood pictures
                          -Tricia Nixon Cox

     Presidential statements
          -Best use of President's time
                -Drug policy message
                       -Quality
                            -President's role

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:15 am.

          -Meeting with Donald McI. Kendall
              -Henry A. Kissinger

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:33 am.

          -Statements by Cabinet members
                -Maurice H. Stans
                -John A. Volpe
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                -Donald H. Rumsfeld
                -Quality of information

Haldeman left and Kissinger and Kendall entered at 11:33 am.
     Greetings

     Wedding
         -Warmth of family                                        Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
         -Public perception

     New drug policy
         -Announcement

     Henry Hubbard call to Kissinger
         -New York Times story (Pentagon Papers)

     Pentagon Papers
          -Stewart J.O. Alsop
          -Ziegler's role in response
               -Declassification of World War II and Korean War documents
          -Speed of official declassification


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 30s ]


     FOREIGN AFFAIRS


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     International affairs
           -Egypt
                -Anwar El Sadat
           -Greece
           -Turkey
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         -Iran
         -Lebanon
         -Greece
               -Kendall Interest
               -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
               -Greek government
                    -US influence
                    -Political orientation                   Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
                    -Management ability
                          -Benefits to Greek people
         -Brazil
               -Potential
         -Greece
               -Coming prosperity
               -Problems with elections
               -Comparison with Argentina
                    -Economic reversals
               -US policy
         -Iran
               -Kendall experience
               -Gross National Product
               -Shah's effort
                    -Stability
                          -Pakistan
                          -Afghanistan
               -US support for Shah


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[National Security]
[Duration: 12s ]


    FOREIGN AFFAIRS


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          -Arab concerns
          -Renunciation of claim to Bahrain
          -Islands guarding entrance to Persian Gulf
                -Shah's concern
          -Yemen
                -Communist rise
          -Shah’s reforms                                         Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
                -Results
                      -Rising material desires
                      -Increased number of students
                      -Creation of industrial establishment
                      -Need to distribute wealth
                            -Comparison to Chile
          -Organization of businessmen
                -Kendall efforts
                      -Need for expertise
                -Employee housing
                      -Problems
          -President's actions
                -Kendall’s view
                -Attendance at 2500 year anniversary
                -Douglas Macarthur II
                -Alternative to attendance
                      -Lyndon B. Johnson attendance
          -Iranian view of Johnson
                -Shah
                -Cattle ranching background
          -Spiro T. Agnew attendance at anniversary
          -Possibility of President's attendance at anniversary
                -Coincident diplomatic efforts
                -Benefits
                -Benefits of Johnson attendance
                      -Soviet Union's response
                -Agnew attendance
                      -Soviet response
                            -Nikita S. Khrushchev attendance
          -Use of Johnson

Pentagon Papers
     -Effect on Nixon administration
     -Effect on John F. Kennedy and Johnson
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              -Walt W. Rostow

    Macarthur
         -Future
         -Stature
         -Other uses
               -Japan
    Lebanon                                                  Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
         -Economy
         -Kendall meeting with President of Lebanon
         -Lebanese President
               -Reference to President
         -Views regarding US
         -Last visit by President
               -Misunderstanding

    Middle East
        -Problems with US positions
              -Support for Israel
              -Money from Jewish-Americans
              -Suggestion to Arabs
        -Egypt
              -Sadat
                   -Use of Gamal Abdel Nasser image
              -Quality of government
              -Foreign policy
                   -Mohammed Hassanein Heikal
                   -Message passage
                   -Kendall discussion with Heikal
                         -Length
              -Heikal
                   -Handling
                   -William P. Rogers’ visit
                   -Position on Nixon doctrine
                   -Vietnam


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[National Security]
[Duration: 41s ]
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     ASIA


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                                                          Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)

                      -Egyptian progress
                            -Reflection on political system
                      -Ideological bent
                 -Arab and Israeli problem

Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:33 am.

     Item for President

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:03 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[National Security]
[Duration: 3m 26s ]


     MIDDLE EAST


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     Kissinger’s schedule
          -Documents

Kissinger left at 11:53 am.

     Middle East
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          -Heikal
               -Invitation to US by Kendall
               -Meeting with President
                     -Soviets
               -Implications
                     -Arab view of Soviets
          -Treatment of Egyptians by Soviets
          -Egyptian tourism                                      Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)

Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:53 am.

     President's schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:03 pm

     Japan
          -Meeting by Kendall with Japanese
                -[Ryutaro Nemoto ?]
          -Kendall Meeting with Peter G. Peterson
                -Handling of Japanese by Peterson
                -Threats compared with "muscle"
                -Need for preparation
                -Future implications
                -Japanese expansion
                     -Recent purchases
                     -Shipping
                           -Prices
                           -Link to steel sales
          -Peterson knowledge
                -Previous Japanese deals

     Algeria
          -Expropriation
               -Rejection of loans

     Trade policy
          -1950's precedent
                -Marshall Plan
          -Goals
                -Support of foreign policy
                -Reference to Peterson
                     -Rhetoric
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               -Department of State

    Anastasio Somozo
         -Charles A. Meyer lecture
               -Democratic government

    President's tests for foreign nations
                                                                Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)
    People's Republic of China [PRC]
         -Trip by President
               -Possibilities
         -Impact
               -Accomplishments of President's administration
                    -Vietnam
                    -Detente with Soviet Union
                           -Arms control
                    -PRC opening
               -Taiwan
         -Necessity of dealing with PRC

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 9s ]


    TAIWAN, REPUBLIC OF CHINA


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         -PRC resources

    Kendall’s schedule

    Gift presentation

    Thanks
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     Peterson
          -Trade policy
               -Foreign policy

Kendall left at 12:03 pm.

                                                                       Conv. No. 524-15 (cont.)