Conversation No. 527-9

Date: June 22, 1971
Time: 3:42 pm - 5:06 pm
Location: Oval Office
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The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
     Pentagon Papers
          -Congressional relations
               -William P. Rogers and Melvin R. Laird activity
               -Carl B. Albert
               -Clark MacGregor
               -Albert's role in Rogers and Laird visit
                     -Postponement                                 Conv. No. 527-8 (cont.)
               -Laird’s press statement
                     -Ronald L. Ziegler

     Schedule
          -Meeting with Spiro T. Agnew
          -President's meeting with governors

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:46 pm.

                -Press coverage

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:16 pm.

                -Louie B. Nunn

     Pentagon Papers
          -Ehrlichman's conversation with Laird
                -Laird's press statement
                      -Transcript from Laird to Ehrlichman
          -President's meeting with leaders
                -MacGregor

Ronald L. Ziegler, Gov. Linwood Holton, Gov. Arch A. Moore, Gov. Nunn, Edwin L. Harper
entered at 3:44 pm.

     Greetings
          -Photographs

     John B. Connally

     Tricia Nixon Cox's wedding
           -Weather
           -Replay on television
                -Agnew
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Appalachian policy
    -Concern of Appalachian governors
          -Widening of concerned circle
          -Bureaucratic problems
          -Social Security programs
    -Support for President in Appalachian states
          -Future support                                 Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
    -Authorization bill
    -Appropriations bill
          -Edwin L. Harper
    -House and Senate tension
    -Prospects
    -Appalachian Regional Commission [ARC] programs
          -Feeling on Capitol Hill
    -Appalachian history
    -Political use
    -Acceleration of public works
          -Authorization compared to appropriations
    -Necessary action
          -Governors' statement on President's concern
                -Difficulty of legislative action
                -Priority of ARC activities
                      -Domestic Council
                -Problems of legislation
          -Support for legislation
    -Ehrlichman’s view
          -Potential Presidential veto
                -Public statement
    -Administration support for Appalachian legislation
          -Contribution to revenue sharing program
    -Governors' role
    -Work on details
    -Explanation of governors
          -Legislators' stance
                -Legislative action
          -Need for successful legislation
    -President's interest in program
          -Prior statements
          -Perception of people
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     -Political impact
           -Poll
                 -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
                 -Edmund S. Muskie
           -Appalachian political history

National issues
     -President’s speech to the American Medical Association [AMA]
                                                                Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
           -Conversation with unnamed doctor from Louisville, Kentucky
     -Polls
           -Value
     -Pentagon Papers
           -Hubert H. Humphrey
           -Muskie
           -Lyndon B. Johnson
           -Rhetoric
           -Barry M. Goldwater
     -War in Vietnam
     -Support for President
           -Future value
     -Economic

Appalachian policy
    -Support from President
          -Merits of legislation
          -Commitment from President to Appalachia
    -Humphrey
    -Muskie
    -Humphrey address
    -Nelson A. Rockefeller
          -Support for revenue sharing
    -Wilbur D. Mills support
    -Eventual bill

Welfare reform
     -Support by legislators
     -Family assistance
     -Social Security
     -Liberals' view
           -Rationale
     -Voting schedule
     -Congressional tactics
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               -Mills’ efforts
     Photographs

     Wedding of Tricia Nixon and Edward R.F. Cox
         -Lucy A. Winchester's efforts
         -Women in Kentucky
         -West Virginia man
                                                                 Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
     Julie and [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
           -Trips to West Virginia
                -Massachusetts in contrast to the South
                      -Schools


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The press entered at an unknown time after 3:42 pm.

Ziegler left and Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 4:09 pm.

     President’s schedule
          -Upcoming meeting with Agnew
                -Agnew’s upcoming trip

     Press reception
           -Photographs

     General conversation

The press left at an unknown time before 4:16 pm.
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     Pentagon Papers
          -Administration response
               -Johnson's reaction
               -Robert S. McNamara's role
               -Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy
               -McNamara's conduct
          -Background on executive action
               -Role of Secretaries

Butterfield left and Spiro T. Agnew entered at 4:14 pm.

     Greetings

     Best wishes for Vice President's trip

     Farewell to governors

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at an unknown time after 4:14 pm.

     Presentation of gifts
          -Tie bar
          -Secretaries
          -Paper weights
          -Gifts to Vice President

Holton. et al., left at 4:16 pm; Agnew remained.

     Appalachian legislation
         -Public works
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Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:16 pm.
    Refreshment

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:48 pm.

     Agnew's trip
         -Agenda
                -Phoenix, Arizona                              Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
                      -Speech to the Jaycees
                -Hawaii
                -Guam
                -Korea
                -Singapore
                -Indonesia
                -Malaysia
                -Bombay, India
                -Kuwait
                -Saudi Arabia
         -Jaycees speech
                -Patrick J. Buchanan's statement
         -Edwin [Surname unknown]

     Pentagon Papers
          -Public reaction
               -Poll
                     -Publication of classified documents
               -Confusion
               -Selection by The Boston Globe

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 4:48 pm.

                     -John F. Kennedy's material
                           -Ngo Dinh Diem
                     -Frank S. Fitzsimmons
                           -Tom Flynn's effort
               -Theft of information
               -Walt W. Rostow speech
                     -Support for President
          -Johnson's role in Vietnam
               -Call for appearance before Senate
                     -Muskie
          -Administration response
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      -Court action
      -Need for proper attack
      -Penalties for use of classified material
-Prosecutions
      -Daniel Ellsberg
            -Ellsberg's former wife
      -Public relations efforts
            -"Right to know" emphasis               Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
-Injunction proceedings
      -John N. Mitchell
      -Supreme Court appeal
      -Timing of criminal proceedings
-Reproduction of papers
      -Neil Sheehan
      -Use of press pass
-Public reaction
      -Confusion with war
      -Confusion with Johnson
      -Necessity of secrecy
            -Johnson use
      -Popularity of war
-Contingency plans
      -Necessity
      -President's plan
            -Bombing
            -Haiphong
            -Dikes
            -Implementation
      -Public exposure
-Senate and House action
      -Morality
            -Reflection of voters
      -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield's action
      -Marlow W. Cook-Ted Stevens amendment
      -Future of Vietnam War
-Morality of New York Times
      -History of Times stance
      -Reaction to Democrat President
            -Humphrey
            -Ted Kennedy
                  -John F. Kennedy's actions
                  -Rationale
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     -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson's comments
          -Condemnation of Times

National politics
     -Democrat candidate for President
           -Kennedy
     -Issues
           -Foreign policy                                 Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
                  -Upcoming successes
           -Economy
                  -President's concern
                        -Role of timing
                  -Agnew concern
                        -Interest rates
                              -Confidence crisis
           -Cook's conversation with Agnew
                  -Kentucky trip
                  -Congressional initiative
                  -MacGregor
                  -Media coverage of efforts
                        -Washington Post
                        -Johnson's history
                        -Muskie
                        -Humphrey
     -Muskie
     -Agnew's speech on Vietnam
           -Preparation
                  -National Security Council [NSC] staff
           -President's role in Vietnam
     -Mansfield amendment
     -President's Vietnam efforts
     -Agnew's speech to Air Force Academy
           -Vietnam solutions
           -President's efforts in Vietnam
                  -Priorities
           -Promises of action
     -Pentagon Papers
           -Coverage in airport press conference

Agnew's trip
    -Korea
    -Asian stops
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      -Singapore
-Kuwait
-Saudi Arabia
-Zaire
-Ethiopian
      -US ambassador
            -Congressional background
      -Dr. Minasse Haile                                  Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
      -E. Ross Adair
      -Haile Selassie
            -Attendance at Dwight D. Eisenhower funeral
-Kinshasa, Zaire
      -Mobutu Sese Seko
-Nairobi, Kenya
-Saudi Arabia
-Customs in Africa
-Zaire
      -African student riots
            -Reaction by Mobutu
-Spain
      -Judy, Susan, and Kim Agnew
      -Francisco Franco party
      -Franco
            -Greetings from President
-Greetings from the President
-Rabat, Morocco
      -US and Moroccan relations
            -Contact with Royal family
                   -The President’s previous visit
-Spain
      -Franco
      -Juan Carlos
      -Political situation
            -Luis Carrero Blanco
            -Gregorio Lopez Bravo
-Portugal
      -Lisbon
            -Beauty
-Africa
      -Problems in South Africa
            -Great Britain and France
      -South Africa
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                     -Black population
                     -Selassie
                            -Background
                     -Mobutu's Role
                     -Jomo Kenyatta
          -Benefits of trip
               -Education
               -Feel for Nations                                     Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
          -Tunisia
          -Vietnam Comments
          -Timing of Trip

[The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger at an unknown time between 4:16 pm and 4:48
pm]

[Conversation No. 527-9A]

     Request for Kissinger’s presence

[End of telephone conversation]

     Agnew's Asian trip
         -Korea
              -Visit to troops

     Drug policy
          -President's speech to the AMA
          -Punishment of voluntary users
          -Drug use to avoid military service
                -Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe's answer
          -Agnew's experience in World War II
                -Marseilles, France
          -Youth
                -Difficulty
                -Blame on society


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Kissinger entered at 4:48 pm.
                                                                 Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
     Kissinger's schedule

     Agnew's trip
         -Stop in Vietnam
                -Implications
                -Kissinger's trip
                     -Timing
                -Benefits
                     -Troop morale
                     -Counter to Midway meeting cancellation
                -Deferral of decision
                     -Nguyen Van Thieu
                     -Ellsworth F. Bunker
                -Kissinger's trip
                     -Publicity
                     -Thieu
                -Vietnamese elections
                     -Nguyen Cao Ky
                     -Duong Van Minh
                     -Bunker’s view

     Pentagon Papers
          -Immorality of publication
          -Democrats’ tactics
          -Use of declassification procedures
          -Encouragement to enemy
          -Publication of irrelevant items
          -Marketing of stolen goods
          -Morality of Congress
               -Pandering for support
          -Rostow's speech
               -Times coverage
               -Southeast Asia coverage
               -Johnson's administration in history
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Vietnam resolutions
     -Kissinger's calls to Senators
          -Reason for resolution
                -Focus on President
                -Focus on Hanoi
                -Instructions to President
          -Effects of resolution on negotiations               Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
          -Mansfield
          -Prospects
          -Cook
          -Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
                -Kissinger's luncheon invitation
                -Reelection prospects
     -Future events
     -Johnson
          -Clark M. Clifford's statement during the war
     -Rationale
          -Democrat attack on US negotiating position

Pentagon Papers
     -Court decisions on national security interest
     -British formal diplomatic protest
           -Basis
           -Meeting between the Earl of Cromer and William P. Rogers
                 -Exposure of classified information
     -Court decisions
           -Liberal establishment
                 -Murray J. Gurfein
                 -Left wing Republicans
                       -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                       -Thomas E. Dewey
                       -Jacob K. Javits
           -Javits’ comments
                 -MacGregor
                 -Kissinger's response
                       -Protection of human rights
           -Johnson

Agnew's trip
    -Agenda
           -Korea
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                -Vietnam trip
           -Schedule
                -Date of NSC meeting

Agnew left at 5:03 pm.

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Mansfield breakfast                                     Conv. No. 527-9 (cont.)
                -Information available to Mansfield
          -Kissinger's comments to Republicans
                -Jack R. Miller
          -President's comments to leaders
          -Hugh Scott

     President's schedule
          -Mansfield breakfast
                 -President's comments
                       -Rationale
                             -MacGregor
                             -Historical record

     Vietnam negotiations
          -Status
          -Indochinese ceasefire
                -Mansfield
                -US offer

Kissinger left at 5:06 pm.