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Nixon, Dart & Ehrlichman on Social visit and Photography

Monday, June 28, 1971 · 4:35 PM–4:39 PM ET · Oval Office · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Dart, Jane; Ehrlichman, John D.; White House photographer; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Dart, Jane; Ehrlichman, John D.; White House photographerConversation531-003 on Tape 531 (tape position 00:06:00–00:09:00)StartMonday, June 28, 1971 at 4:35 PMEndMonday, June 28, 1971 at 4:39 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 531-003 ↗

President Nixon met with Jane Dart and John D. Ehrlichman, accompanied briefly by a White House photographer, for a social visit to arrange a photograph and exchange gifts. The conversation included brief discussions regarding Dart’s upcoming travel plans to New York and the health and activities of her husband, Justin W. Dart. The meeting concluded cordially after the participants finalized their photographic arrangements.

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Yeah, it seems that I don't see her when she's leaving.
They're coming and going.
Yeah, right.
Well, they're very close to the table right there.
Well, I'll never see her.
Yeah, she's right.
That was a long time ago.
Is that a picture of us?
Sure.
All right.
All right.
All right, good.
We're going to go out.
We're going to go out.
Where are you going to go?
Well, I'm going to go to New York.
I'm going to go to New York.
She knows so much, and I'd like to be an authority on a lot of things.
Yes, she is.
She is.
She is.
Stay here.
Oh, sure.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you learn harder than me.
Don't think this is a country.
That's so crazy.
Get around.
Take a bus.
I remember the times when I was up to your house on the hill and I noticed that the Justice
You know, I always picture I have a pen, and then I'll see paralyzed, or the blood, just before that bottle springs for the last time.
Never stop.
Thank you.
Goodbye.
I appreciate your time.
Thank you very much.

On June 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Jane Dart, John D. Ehrlichman, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:35 pm to 4:39 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 531-003 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 531-3

Date: June 28, 1971
Time: 4:35 pm - 4:39 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Jane Dart and John D. Ehrlichman; the White House photographer was
present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Dart's activities
           -Robert H. Finch

     Arrangements for photograph

     Dart's plans for future
           -Travel

     Presentation of gifts by President

     Justin W. Dart
           -Health
           -Activities
           -Dwight D. Eisenhower[?]

Dart and Ehrlichman left at 4:39 pm.
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Conversation 531-003, June 28, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/531-003 (accessed October 5, 2026).