On June 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:40 pm to 1:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 532-020 of the White House Tapes.
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I was wondering who you would put in charge of that law enforcement thing.
First, there's two different laws.
One, there's the writing of a thing called the bang, bang, bang, bang, which probably isn't a canon type of assignment at all.
I mean, you don't give them the price, for example, in that group, because they don't make these fighting terms.
But the canon probably can do that.
The other is to then get around the...
I think it's Colson, exactly.
It's Colson, but he's got a guy that's, one of his, he's been doing some recruiting, this one guy he's got, Carol, Carol, Carol Locklands or something like that, who he's extremely high on.
In fact, he was considering him, suggesting him as the guy for the declassification project, because he doesn't want to lose it.
The guy is a lawyer.
But it's a very sharp promotion type guy who came out of the Navy, intelligence.
And Chuck's very high on it.
And I was thinking this might be an ideal guy.
It should be in Chuck's office.
But there ought to be a guy to ride urban.
And also, this guy's a good writer, apparently.
Thank you.
It doesn't say, it doesn't...
Not that, we just, that's really the thing Connolly's talking to you about.
But we make speeches.
The press conference, as I handle that myself, as I do the writing, but that's a different matter.
Speeches and so forth and so on, we're just missing a lot of opportunities.
I really think we are.
I may be wrong, but we do, I think we are getting across, but I think we've got to have Connolly speaking to her.
There's no records.
Was there a permissiveness in their thing, or did you have it?
No, we haven't.
Oh, they didn't have anything to lock back.
That was your line.
Oh, sure.
Okay, well, that gives me good... Sure.
Is that a... That's the only...
It's time after time after time.
That's the one thing...
It's the number one... Public image number one...
I just don't see that in the stuff that comes out from the price shop.
I mean, they don't give me any.
You know, it's sloganeering.
Like, we don't have one thing.
As I said, the Democrats have a Peace Corps.
They've got this.
They've got Upward Bound.
They've got, you know, all that sort of thing.
Now, what the hell do we have?
We've got welfare reform and the rest of it.
Nothing but revenue, Sharon.
We're in the name of Christ is something that indicates.
I try to do it with the American Revolution.
Maybe that covers it all in one sense.
The open door thing is pretty good for a while, but the open door thing is pretty good.
But like an open world, the open world thing as we go along will be good.
Let me get the China thing.
An open world.
I can't assess too strongly that we're writing too much versus too much stuff.
And also, I think it's too goddamn literate.
It's littered.
It's beautiful.
The press is impressed by it.
But they matter, you see.
I mean, I think even Ficker is overwhelmed sometimes by that point.
He doesn't realize it.
You know, he could see me.
He always, nobody would pick up me, but he can.
But he didn't get to hear of the misdemeanors.
I remember I went to that conversation.
I said, you mentioned the name, what do you think?
I thought it was important.
I thought it was important.
The crime rate was down.
I thought it was important.
But I said, the important thing, I said that they was the ear of permissiveness as an endeavor.
I said, sell that.
He went on to buy a gun in Mississauga.
He didn't have to sell it.
He was a model when he was out.
And I don't always get drunk.
I mean, I listen to that.
But I do know this, that does show.
See there, he was thinking in programmatic terms.
And the average lousy reporter thinks in programmatic terms.
Well, what's new in terms of a program, right?
And so about the day we agreed that the church quit growing old, you know,
Copy.
That's progress.
Today, France's logistics in 100 major cities came down.
Now, there's 61 cities with over 100,000 reduced in the last quarter.
That, of course, is progress.
Now, that is the hard news.
Rob is excellent at that.
But you see, what really grabs people is to use those points.
to make the point that grabs them, and the point that grabs them is the Euripides.
And that's a great phrase and word to shed.
I could, I'm sure, if you can, you can think of a better one.
Yeah.
I hope you can.
But it says what you wanted to say.
I use them for freedom from fear of being assaulted, like respect for our law enforcement people.
Can I show you what I mean?
I know those corpsmasters work over there.
They get stuck together, you know.
Like they do a very good job of preparing to bring me back in and get behind boundaries.
And they do a very good job of preparing me for, you know,
As you know, when I go over to do a dinner at the Blunt Den, the Charter March, I've got to have an idea or two suggesting, because I just can't sit and swim all the time.
And they did.
They suggested something like, Cook had found that thing about Buchanan's secretary, postmaster general.
He died because he left a mess because he was too soft-hearted.
He says, get a man without a heart and has no friends.
And that made a good postmaster general.
And then Lincoln, you know, and Katie Lincoln, yeah.
Well, there, those were two excellent things which made the whole point of them.
They said, that's fine.
Well, those are good things.
They fit you.
They have those of your kind.
But basically, where the staff is weak is in sloganizing.
God damn it, they don't.
Why is that?
Why in the hell aren't they telling you that?
Why don't they write it?
Because they're too intelligent.
They just don't do it.
I think it's hard for an intelligence guy to do it.
See, I...
There's three there, I believe.
Just a supplement.
That's a shot with the...
While he's working that supplementing, let's see what we get.
This thing got it.
It's supposed to be right along this line.
Well, for example, what problem do we ought to have, I must say?
It's the heart of those we'd like to have come out and make two or three points.
And then here is a line, a couple of lines suggested that we could use.
It's definitely, I guess you're likely to include that Sapphire can't do the lines due to the fact that he just, it's an overweening narrative cue, you know.
Now, for example, in this little talk, we were in the third reading terminal, was it?
where he had a line, just a typical sign, a nice note that could be done Wednesday evening in the archipelago, where he said that we live, we are a people who earn plenty of land, and we'll earn plenty.
And I was like, that just turns me off.
And that was just what I was saying.
Do you like that?
Turn plenty of land into a land of plants.
It's cute.
It's clever.
And it's...
If you want to say something's not presidential, by God, that is.
Yeah.
That's not so critical.
You see, he should write for somebody else.
He should write for...
Except for some of the things he writes come out well for you.
Some of what he's done has come out well for you.
It's to be heard.
Sometimes change.
That's right.
I've always had to work with this.
It doesn't come off due to the fact that so much has to come out of it that I feel uncomfortable.
And it's true of everybody.
I don't mean that any guy's going to find the exact right Buchanan stuff.
A lot of it is just too rough, too brutal.
It's basically brutal and unfeeling.
Unfeeling in terms of just...
You've got to show a little bit of compassion.
Lack of compassion.
Christ goes overboard today.
He's so full of compassion and love for people that you can call that an ounce, no kind.
It's compassion, love.
No, actually, he has a very crisp mind.
Also, he's so intellectual and so deeply
and honest and idealistic, that he believes this is pedagogic.
And it is.
I know it is.
You know, you're permissive as a kind.
And he says, well, now, he'll dissect that and say, well, that isn't true.
Or it is true.
Or it's overstated.
Or it's understated.
Well, it's irrelevant.
Oh, that's irrelevant.
Sometimes you've got to say something.
What was the greatest time?
Yeah.
I mean, that's a pretty good example.
That's such a lovely understanding.
We're doing lots of things, and we're not saying anything.
In our group, we said we were our voices, and we had a speech that everybody phrased.
the first state of the Union.
Oh, the quality of life, that's it, the quality of life.
Make America, restore our heritage, and so forth and so on.
That's not bad.
But then we come on to restoration.
But what I'm getting at is,
We ought to be able to do better.
I just think that all these smart people should do better.
And in that field of the slogan, the slogan had, frankly, a memorable line.
That somebody, somebody with something that would deserve will never get there, but that would deserve the time and time to be used in the quote of the week, quote of the day.
That's what you really deserve.
It's Christmas, but my God, that says it.
That's what I, yeah, see.
Like, for example, like there is partisan principle rather than, you know, the partisan party and partisan principle.
I didn't write that, but that's what our people should write.
See?
He's not a partisan.
Even my little tribute to Hoover, they won't use it because they don't like him.
You know what I say?
He's served five presidents, three Democrats, and two Republicans.
He's never served a party.
He's always served his country.
The place comes apart.
So don't hate him.
There you go.
Oh, of course.
They didn't have any reason.
The jury is interesting.
I'm not a goddamn word about Hoopers.
But do you know why?
None of those guys are important.
And I understand that.
I can't... Don't tell her they should put her in prison.
I believe...
I mean, I thought what might be used are not very different from them on that.
They'll...
I'll bounce it off on the right.
And I don't mind that being on the left.
I was sufficiently looking for what they think your view is going to be.
When you're writing, you should be trying to influence policy and tone.
You should be trying to say what the speaker wants to say.
Well, I think you can have some fun with this.
It's very distracting today.
Maybe we've got something here in the law enforcement thing that's always somewhat of a package.
I talk about when there's other crew, like Tom said, we didn't plan it.
But, you know, we've got the drug thing, we've got the police, backing the police, we've got the... Actually, we have backing the police, because the back police are out of our hands.
And even back in the police against demonstrators.
And your hijacking.
Let's not forget that.
That's right.
Back in the police against demonstrators, the drug thing.
Yeah.
Well, President and Attorney General.
President and Attorney General, we're here to hear your permissiveness has come to an end.
And of course, some of the factual results are our progress in drug use in Turkey, our progress in reducing crimes in 61 cities over 100,000.
I don't know.
I mean, you have to come in and tell me.
to a three-page thing.
I want her.
Don't go into hellish detail.
Don't have all those University Council papers, you know, with charters, with, you know, A, B, C, D, E, F, E, F, G, and so forth back and forth.
I'm just kidding as well.
I'll tell you, I've been a congressman for a while.
I've been a senator.
I just need something.
And what I take, a congressman, a senator, a cabinet officer,
Anybody that makes a speech, I know how little time they've got.
And also how little perception and understanding they've got.
Just give them three or four things and they want to say it.
And don't give them so god damn much.
We're giving them...
I've had several congressmen say to me, we've given them too much material.
Too much of residential.
Too much of government reorganization.
Too much of the health program.
Too much.
They've done so much.
But they look at it and they say, oh Christ, they put it aside.
And then they say, I'm going to read this.
And they never read it.
Correct?
Yeah, I believe it, because I've never read it.
Well, I don't.
I don't know why.
I see a thing or two that I just don't read.
And there again, too, part of it is that it's his job to boil it up and say, now look,
trying to get across a message to a simpleton.
And he is, and it's the foresight of a retributionist simpleton.
And more important, the people he's gonna talk to are simpletons.
Not that they're dumb people, but they're simpletons about this issue.
So what do you do?
When he asks you the time of day, you take the watch apart.
That's what our people do now.
Don't wanna make a watch.
That's the way to do it.
and just get over and over and over again.
The reaction to the press, of course, is it would be almost ridiculous.
Sure, some of the press will write columns and then they'll wring their hands and so forth about our making an issue out of crime.
We're erasing the social issue.
We're dividing the country, et cetera, et cetera.
of constitutional rights and so forth.
Now, do it, right?
It's not right.
The right, it's very much right.
Also, I think the majority of people want it.
But having it right about it is good.
Having them attack us is a good enemy.
Say this, when you say we're talking about the crime issue, it's one that people are worried about.
That's it.
We get the focus that we're doing something about it.
Which we don't have now.
You know, you come to think about it, that thing, the era of permissiveness in law enforcement in the United States has come to an end.
Really says a hell of a lot.
It attacks the liberals, the left, the permissives, the demonstrators.
the drug addict, I mean the drug person, the rest, and all the sociologists.
And it speaks up for the normal person, the man that wears the bags, the cop, the Daily Times, the movers, the rest.
And finally, it speaks out for the fact that this administration has done something about crime, that this is one area where we are succeeding.
See, I've been trying to think as to what the hell have we been asking us to go through that one thing.
What in the Christ have we done?
Not 20 years from now, people will say it was great that we got the goddamn motion on the side of politics.
But let me tell you, it was a very stupid thing to do what we did 50 years after we
here in a stupid way and insisted that all we did was to freeze into office a thousand arch enemies of ours who were not competent.
We should have waited a year, who ruthlessly didn't take those men close to us.
You know, you didn't use something, and I heard that 15 days later, I remember when they came in.
We didn't, unfortunately, we didn't have much of a staff.
We were trying to be rabbi and worship table and proving that we were good.
And the congressmen were right.
They were absolutely right.
We should have done it.
We should not have done it.
It was not the right sin.
It didn't make any difference with regard to the reorganization that we did then.
What the hell difference did it make?
We just froze in democratic incompetence.
There were incompetent Republican postmasters.
We should have fired the sons of bitches.
We should have put in our postmasters, proceeded right along with them, and then announced that now we're taking it out on politicians.
But there you are.
That's what happens when a guy like one, straight-armed, and just dumb as hell with politics.
He really is, you know.
And that's one's idea.
Not in all things, but two.
At least a typical hardline conservative who thinks, just do the right thing.
Do the right thing.
They'll all work out.
People will support you.
I don't think the postal reform gives us one distinct goal.
Do you?
No.
I think it loses some power.
And if it doesn't?
Because the postal, if anybody cares at all about it, but they don't care about it, it just serves as costing more, doing less.
Hmm.
Well, we don't have a very smart way to explain that.
No, really, we won't make any massive mistakes.
We'll make little mistakes.
because we hope that what I want to do now is to really get through the politics on these things before we go all the way up on the environment program again.
Thank God I got that saving on time.
Jesus Christ.
She says the thing about environment is you've had a great deal of young people.
That's her point, isn't it?
Maybe you're right.
Supposedly stuff showing it to be a bridge across the board with more weight to you and me.
Let me put it this way.
The new wage environment against jobs, as Conley put it so very brutally when he was in the meeting, he said, now look here, we have the same thing with the Houston channel.
And I said, what do you want?
You want the jobs.
We clean up the channel.
And then you lose the jobs that you want.
He says, yeah, well, I don't want them.
Now that's the way, frankly, I would put the Jacksonville thing.
I don't want to try to say I guess that one again, but I think it was wrong to do what we did.
Because basically, as I see the northern part of it saying, I don't think it makes a goddamn bit of difference whether they have a bird sanctuary in Jacksonville.
I really don't think it does, Bob.
Save our natural beauty.
People have got to live in Florida.
They've got to make a living in Florida.
But it's done.
Because we've got 600 postcards for and only 50 against all the Jacksonville Chamber of Congress with a 600 for you could be god damn sure we're from some environmental bunch like the theater club.
Now I, I guess, I don't think it's much of an issue.
That much of an issue when it comes down here and Dan Muskie, who sounds good, and I have some other student, you know, I'll beat to it.
I'll just, but I'm gonna put it on that basis.
This is wrong because it would do something for the environment, but it costs jobs.
Jobs gotta come first.
See, that's getting to a gut issue.
That's why condoms are so valuable, Bob.
You gotta think in terms of gut issues.
I wish Whitaker would think a little bit more that way.
He's capable of it, but he can't.
But he's so worried about doing what's right.
You know what I mean?
It works that way.
So the environment, and that's what I'm trying to do.
Of course, he's working with such a, it's like, it was our life, a good advance, man.
First of all, we've got that bond, you know.
We've got that, we've got a lot.
We've got the trained group that are all pushing to do this and that kind of thing.
Rockwell's house is pushing us, and the Congress is pushing us.
I mean, Spurlock has got some environmentalists on his side.
So what do you think we're going to do?
What the hell does he do?
He's got to come up with that, doesn't he?
Probably hamstrung.
I understand what else happened.
If I got it now, I'm not going to prove anything to the environment, consumers, safety, anything else, before weighing the job impact.
If the job impact is bad, I'm going to do it.
Thank you, Chris.
He told us that there was an opportunity to be somewhat better around tomorrow.
He says we're feeling better.
He said, you know, the war is, I don't know what he's talking about, but it's the war is, is really receiving even despite all this crap.
They must be doing the right thing.
In fact, they don't care.
That's it.
Think about it.
It's papers.
I think it's impressive.
I agree with you.
They're going to make a big effort on it.
It ain't going to get very far.
He said that the main thing he got his questions on was the economy and the war.
So I don't know how that could be, but I've got her in a hat video and all the rest, but people don't know what the Senate's voting about.
On the war, the reason it's down there, it's not the fact that it's where they come from, but also it's really helpful to not have tensions.
I mean, we don't...
We don't get much of a play on it.
Well, and even though they try on the networks, there just isn't much war to report.
You know, they've just got one little fire base attacked or something.
Well, they may have a big buildup in the North.
They're trying to build up a big buildup now, but...
But it is dark ice fighting it.
But, Doug, it's... Again, it's simmering down like it did after Cambodia.
It's just kind of... Yeah.
That's the other thing.
And we get any of this stuff.
I think we ought to have, I don't think, you know, tell the folks in New London, I'm not saying they ought to have this, but you have to have several people find out that this, the president is right.
Here's, in this month of July, compared to the previous month, the month of June, just as the president predicted, not with the Laos or casualties, but are the lowest about then.
I'm sure the month will be the lowest in probably six, seven years or so.
You see?
You realize the numbers of 19, 25, 25, and 21.
God, I don't like about this.
130.
That's what we were having a week in.
We were having that much.
No, it was 8, less than 8.
Less than 8.
We had more than that in a week a year ago.
And we thought that was pretty good.
We used to have 100 a week.
We thought that was pretty good.
That was our chance.
If we just pulled it under 100 a week, we've got it.
Now we're down below 50 a week.
Below 30 a week.
Now that's got to be built.
I want him to try to build it tomorrow, get some speeches and so forth.
That's a good one to have.
I think I'll go with him because he seems obsessed.
He hates investors, doesn't he?
And I can see why they antagonize his people with him.
Because he is such a fighter.
Now he'll need that.
I think that's really the thing that I think we've just got to recognize around here that nice guys do finish last in this business.
Bill Colson was so pleased that I had kicked the cabinet around about the, the cabinet, the domestic council about the, and so was Roger's work.
He says, I was great this morning.
I said, all right.
Of course, he's one of the worst recruiters.
But, hey, Roger's got me.
Sad, not sad.
He said, well, that was just the right thing to say.
Best thing you've had.
You know, he was going on and on.
He thought that was just great.
Hard to see.
What does that tell you?
Does it tell you maybe that they sort of like to, they've got to stand up there leading the charge?
Yes.
Isn't that really it?
We're not going to have this crap anymore.
No, I want you to, I want this clearly understood.
I want you to write your memoirs for history and all the rest.
As far as I'm concerned, I take responsibility.
To get your staff meeting with each other.
How did it go?
Fine, Dave.
How did you lay it out?
You pointed out that the president said this, and that you were following up.
Yeah, and in fact, I went through my notes from the cabinet meeting.
Yeah.
Ran through basically the points you had made, how it was done, what you had said, how you were following up, the need for them to do the same thing.
Dave made the point, is it all right for us to go back and talk to our own people about this?
I said, hell yes, it's all right.
It's essential.
Because we've got to be beyond question in the White House before we can enforce anything outside the White House.
They can turn stuff back at us, and we've got no chance of getting anything done.
They're always trying to do the chart.
They're the street.
We die here on the street.
Yeah, and I just don't buy that.
Because the leaks are all anti-White House and pro-state.
There's never been an anti-state leak.
It doesn't get out of here.
I think Henry's got his people so petrified that they wouldn't blink.
You know what I mean?
Jesus Christ, he terrifies them.
And that's why he keeps it huge as this one.
You know what I mean?
He really does.
He's tough there.
Now, your other point is, if we're doing the blinking, we shouldn't be able to help ourselves.
That's it.
If we're doing the blinking, we're pretty dumb because we're doing the wrong stuff the wrong way.
Well, we could put it out there if you want to really start using it.
If you really want to start using it.
You can start using it.
I can't start using it.
I've never heard of it.
But he can do the boat tapes.
He'll be available on weekends at night.
We don't call any time.
All right.
Where you can see him.
He's a Mexican.
He's Mexican.
Where does he come from?
Navy.
Been in the government before?
Navy.
Oh, he's 13 years in the Navy.
Yes, sir.
He's been the personal stenographer for the Vice Chief of Naval Operations.
We've run through a lot of checks on it.
His skills are just damn good.
Very good.
Solid.
With us all out.
You know, he's...
There's no question I don't think on it.
And he's...
He sees this as a great thing.
Well, you understand you're going to have a lot.
You know, I don't know many tapes, you know, but it's only using them.
It's only that, on occasion, we have Japanese dead piggies, and if I use it once a month, it's worth it.
You know, like, I don't have to call Rose or Mark or something on a Sunday if I wake up and get some silly idea.
I just say, look, I'll come on, and you'll be ready for that, right?
He can dictate to them on the phone.
He takes the shorthand, you know, he can do it that way.
But he dictates.
I do all the work here, you know.
But he's also, you know, he's got the shorthand skill if you want it.
Nice looking.
And one thing I was thinking about, one thing I was thinking too that's good, is that if we do have to take a trip, and a trip,
As it turns out, we do not want to do that.
You know what I mean?
And it's not very well-minded to do it.
To Russia, I think they would probably want her.
I'm not sure if the president made sure it wasn't in China.
They might not.
I don't know.
But I sure as hell don't want to hit Rose.
You see, I've had one.
You know, because it's a pain in the ass.
Right?
Yep.
And she's getting it.
you know, physically and all that, to where she can't take it.
She's just really up to it.
You see, Bob, she can't take the stress anymore.
She does extremely well.
But when it comes basically to the evenings, I just can't call her.
I don't want to put her to it.
She's excellent at what she does, holding hands with people and so forth, and she's buying goods and things that are, you know, personal accommodations and so forth in that respect.
But in comparison,
You know, working on a weekend or something like that.
She just can't do it.
She can't get in.
Well, she can do the specialized, you know, putting a speech together, all that kind of stuff.
It'll be hard for this guy to do that.
Oh, I don't know.
But we'll have this guy sign sort of the 80s office or something, you know, so he doesn't have a red flag to run.
Oh, I understand that.
It goes along.
And so they haven't said anything.
And the X was excellent also.
Well, I know, but I'd rather have one.
This would be our spot.
Right.
It would be excellent to have that, let's say, the Camp David at Florida.
I don't know if it's in there.
Wherever we go, always have it in there.
So I know we can get this up.
That's about it.
That would be good for all of us.
And we'd use him as a staff center on those things.
But we could leave it up to someone else to figure it out.
David, we need something tight on all of these.
Maybe you've got it, but they don't know our system and our system.
Sure.
Little child.
The fellow Victoria addresses something Christ would never get her into Harvard.
Not because it isn't good, but because she believes in America.
You read it?
Perhaps I am old-fashioned to tell you that I love America, believe in capitalism, and admire people who are willing to work.
Why not?
I read it.
Now that's what ought to be said.
You'd never get that out of a researcher, would you?
Well, they said it about America.
This country does not claim to be ever utopian, but it is the strongest, the biggest, and the best, and I believe in the military.
Patriots, excluding the black, and the star-struck American.
I'm proud in the name of my country to provide jobs for all and opportunities for everyone.
I've been told that.
I've been told that.
I remember that I've been speaking to the class, so maybe I can't.
I've been speaking to them, maybe I'm not.
Whether or not my views are there, I think the time has come to defend America.
I seem to feel that an evening such as this ought to be given to the goodness of America and the freedom it provides, greater than anywhere else, even though there is an impact on government that makes that freedom possible.
We are one nation under God, committed to freedom throughout the world, and to world war, and unto all costs and error of mind, blood, and military.
I can see no reason to give up our superiority because a few people who have loud voices are afraid.
The State Department must not be allowed to undermine what you and preceding generations have built.
We have not decided that they think we are old enough to vote.
This vote is not a gift or reward.
It is a privilege brought from the grave in our responsibility.
We are not a smart group of young men and women, nor are we mature.
Such qualities cannot be attributed to a group that would rather remain an individual patient than the first generation to have this privilege.
We must now prove ourselves worthy of your faith and justify the hope you have in us.
The United States has not been built by mentalism masquerading as demonstrations, by a tolerance for subversion and weak words.
The men and women who have come before us have carried on the ambition, liberty, and responsibility because it is good and it is worth it.
Our generation must not destroy the combination of mind and goodwill that makes America great.
The people who have America in a non-committed country, strangled in any fear or opinion, cannot understand the consequence.
Those countries who a few years ago lay prostrate from war would be prostrate still but for the unlimited aid of America.
We are truly man-told.
No country has stood more firmly than she, been just as she is just, has been generous as she has been generous, or is more deserving of the praise of her people than America.
The United States is a great country.
My sincerest wish is that the people, the class of 1971, is wise enough and mature enough to appreciate
What do you think of that?
That's just crazy.
What do you think of that?
Three minutes time innovation at the end.
What do you think of that?
Hmm.
Boy.
You got out?
Goddamn, Ken.
That's as far as they've been getting me on.
Hey, he's in town.
Get him over working for Kohl's for a second.
What do you think?
We'll take the nuts on the left, but we won't take the ones on the right.
That's where everybody gets down to, Bob.
I mean, a guy like this son of a bitch, Ellsberg, even him is going to take it.
Because he's British.
He's British.
You find a British nut on the right down there, that's all.
I mean, the country needs a little right wing, I guess, at this moment.
This is a virtue before their time.
I mean it in this country.
That's for sure.
That's what I mean.
Stand up and say it's a hell of a good country.
We believe it.
We love it.
Quit running it down.
Hell of demonstrators.
Even those kids last night had that pretty well.
Oh, the upper people?
Yeah.
Oh, you're damn right.
They're great.
Of course, that's more of a compliment there.
There's wisdom.
They were good.
The little black kids were good.
It was an interesting event to have, as it turned out, you know, particularly because of the sunset.
You know, they were black kids.
They weren't, perhaps, you could all tell they came from medium-income, perhaps, poor-income families.
By God, they were proud when they were up there singing their hearts out and jumping up and down, waving the flag.
who loved their country and their God and their idealistic, you know, very sometimes.
They looked pretty good.
They were one of the better people.
Pretty good, and as I mentioned, it really impressed me when you came in, the one guy, they were very embarrassed.
They didn't know what to do.
I know, they were scared.
The one black kid started to clap, and then it didn't take, so he quit.
Then when he finished, he was the one who started the clocking again.
He was obviously the, and he was the one with the enthusiasm.
They all have, but he was the one with the enthusiasm.
We, we forget it.
The president does it for all people.
They talk to this room and they're having their speeches, you know.
Now, people live it up.
I'm scared.
Whoa.