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Conversation: 534-011

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Start Date: 1-Jul-1971 12:09 PM

End Date: 1-Jul-1971 1:38 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Davis, Sammy, Jr.Brown, Robert J.Cashen, Henry C., IIDonfeld, JeffreyWhite House photographer[Unknown person(s)]Richardson, Elliot L.Hodgson, James D.Shultz, George P.Ehrlichman, John D.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:23:04

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:52:09

534a.mp3

534b.mp3

534c.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 1, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Sammy Davis, Jr., Robert J. Brown, Henry C. Cashen, II, Jeffrey Donfeld, White House photographer, unknown person(s), Elliot L. Richardson, James D. Hodgson, George P. Shultz, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:09 pm to 1:38 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 534-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 534-11

Date: July 1, 1971
Time: 12:09 pm - 1:38 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Sammy Davis, Jr., Robert J. Brown, Henry C. Cashen, and Jeffrey
Donfeld; the White House photographer, members of the press and other unknown people were
present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Arrangements for photograph

     Anecdote

     Presentation of gifts by the President
          -Gifts for men, women
          -Golf balls
                -Dean Martin
                -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                -Golf

     National Advisory Board of the Office of Economic Opportunity
          -Commissioning ceremony
               -Certificate

     Photograph

     Anecdote

     Refreshment

     Davis
          -Purpose of meeting
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/08)



           -Celebrity status
                -Credibility
                      -Leonard Garment
                      -Drug abuse issue

Drug abuse and youth
     -Effectiveness of a celebrity as spokesman
          -Comparison to ministers, teachers, judges
          -Celebrities as spokespersons
                -Athletes
                      -Carl M. Yastrzemski
                      -Bart Starr
                      -John Mackey
     -Effectiveness of arguments against drugs
          -Morality
          -Health of body and mind
          -Performers
                -John Barrymore

Youth
     -Need for inspiration and leadership
     -Self-help
     -Opportunity

Charles B. Rangel
     -The President's June 30, 1971 telephone call
           -U.S.-Turkish opium agreement
                -Rangel's recommendation
                      -Black Caucus
           -Grandfather’s possible reaction
                 -The President's grandfather

Opportunity in the United States
    -Leadership in the U.S.
          -Middle and upper classes
          -Sources of strength in the U.S.
    -Strength through adversity
          -Leo Tolstoy
                 -War and Peace, Anna Karenina
                 -Philosophy
                       -Destructive and creative instincts with each individual
                            -Sublimation of destructive instincts
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                      -Use of creative instincts
           -Youth
                -Use of energy
                     -Need to sublimate negative instincts
                -Davis' discussions with youth

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 12:09 pm
                                                                   Conv. No. 534-11 (cont.)
     The President's schedule
          -James D. Hodgson, Elliot L. Richardson

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 12:29 pm

     Youth
          -Davis' conversations
                -Use of energy
          -Idealism

     Education
         -Black colleges
               -Financial support
                    -The federal government
                    -Richardson

     Entertainment field
          -Davis
          -Bob Hope
          -The President's acquaintances

Richardson, Hodgson, George P. Shultz and John D. Ehrlichman entered at 12:29 pm

     Introductions

     Education
         -Black colleges
               -United Negro College Fund
                    -Funding performance

     Willie Mays

Davis left at 12:31 pm
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Davis
     -1954 meeting

Ribbon Cutting

Davis
     -Membership in the "rat pack"
     -Copacabana                                            Conv. No. 534-11 (cont.)
          -Performance with father and uncle

National Urban League
     -Nixon as Vice President
          -Picture with waiter
     -DePaul University

Davis
     -Background
     -Effectiveness of anti-drug message
     -"David Frost Show"
     -Mai Britt

Welfare
     -Federal assistance funds
     -Follow-up to San Clemente meeting with Governor Ronald W. Reagan
     -Nelson A. Rockefeller
     -California
           -Welfare laws
           -Social Security Act
           -Waiver requests
           -Medicaid
                 -Payments for prescription drugs
     -Work relief
           -Able-bodied welfare recipients
                 -Work incentives
                       -Welfare reform bill
     -H.R. 1 [Welfare Reform Bill]
           -Implications of possible action
           -Effect of refusal to work by welfare recipients
           -Alternative proposals
                 -Russell B. Long
           -Wage system
                 -Equal pay for equal work
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

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                  -Long's proposal
                        -Private sector
      -Work relief
            -California
            -Equal pay for equal work
                  -Impact of concept
            -Conditions
      -Public opinion                                          Conv. No. 534-11 (cont.)
      -Reagan's reaction
      -Sources of support
      -Conservative, liberal reaction
            -Long
            -Reagan's preferences
            -Industry and labor reaction
            -Conservative reaction
-Waivers
      -General Accounting Office [GAO]
            -California waiver requests
                  -George Meany
                  -Political perceptions
                        -Reagan's position in California
                              -Referendum
                              -California budget
                              -Revenue sharing
                              -Possible referendum
                                    -Effect of H.R.1 enactment
-Social Security Act
      -Section 1115 authority for waivers
            -Medicaid payments for drugs
            -New York
                  -Rockefeller's proposed point system
                        -Job system
            -GAO
-California
      -Work relief
      -Experimental programs
      -Reagan
      -Frank C. Carlucci
      -Payment restrictions
            -Family income levels
            -Retention of money
      -Encouragement of working
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                -Funding
                -Public service
                -Appropriations
                -Provision of jobs
                      -Purpose
                            -Unemployment, welfare rolls
                                 -Veteran’s preference
          -New York                                                       Conv. No. 534-11 (cont.)
                -Experimental areas
          -Expenditures
                -California
          -Work relief
                -Massachusetts
          -Unemployment rate
          -California
                -Coordination of effort
                      -Amount of funding
                            -Federal matching of funds to state expenditure
                      -Reagan
                            -Possible meeting to brief governor
                                 -Richardson
                                 -Ehrlichman
                                       -The President's trip to San Clemente
                                       -Discussion with Edwin Meese, III
                      -State Supreme Court
                            -Effect on compliance problems
                            -Correlation of cost-of-living increases to benefit increases
                            -Enjoinder against enactment of provision

     Richardson

     President’s schedule
          -Steel strike

Ehrlichman and Richardson left at 1:12 pm.

     Unemployment rate
         -Pattern
               -Milton Friedman's theory
                    -Arthur F. Burns' memorandum
         -Beginning of recovery period
               -Gross National Product [GNP]
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
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           -Leading indicators
     -Drop
           -Prediction of timing
     -Nationwide trends
     -Total rate versus insured rate
     -Breakdown
           -Youth
           -Married men                                        Conv. No. 534-11 (cont.)
           -Decrease in teenage rates
     -Seasonal adjustments
           -Factors
                 -Number of men called into military service
     -Rate of decrease
     -Effect of Defense Department cutbacks
     -Seasonality
     -Private sector expansion
           -Statistics
           -Youth entry into market
     -Burns

Labor issues in the steel industry
     -Talking paper
           -Forthcoming meeting
     -Focus of White House effort
           -Industry, labor
           -Activist role
                 -Avoid strike
     -Steel industry’s hard-line stance
           -National interest argument
     -Collective bargaining
     -Unions
           -I[lorwith] W. Abel
     -Economic impact
           -Recovery
           -Non-inflationary settlement
     -Pension issue
     -Impact of meetings, negotiations
           -Recognition of problems
                 -Import controls
     -Long-term and short-term effects
     -Format of possible meeting
           -The President's role
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                      -Schedule
                            -Shultz’s conversation with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                -Paul W. McCracken, Herbert Stein
                -Nathaniel Samuels
                -J. Curtis Counts, Willie J. Usery
                -Compartmented format
                -The President's role
                      -Emphasis on the national interest               Conv. No. 534-11 (cont.)
                            -Importance of settlement
                                  -Effect of lengthy strike
                                        -James M. Roche
                      -Constructive approach
                            -Contrasted with John F. Kennedy
                            -Steel crisis of 1961
                            -Shultz's recent meeting with Jack Greenberg
                                  -Education meeting
                                  -Approach
                      -Style of leadership
                      -Preparation of briefing paper by Shultz

Shultz and Hodgson left at 1:38 pm