{"conversationCode":"535-007","tapeNumber":535,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-535-007","startDateTime":"1971-07-02T15:29:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-07-02T15:32:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jul-1971","startTime":"11:29 AM","endDate":"2-Jul-1971","endTime":"11:32 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Houdek, Robert G.; Houdek, Robert G.; Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Atkins, Oliver F. (\"Ollie\");","description":"On July 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Robert G. Houdek, Robert G. Houdek, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Ronald L. Ziegler, and Oliver F. (\"Ollie\") Atkins met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:29 am to 11:32 am. 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Houdek\n         -Work on the National Security Council [NSC] staff\n         -Princeton University\n               -Forthcoming studies\n         -Undergraduate studies in Wisconsin\n\n     Arrangements for photograph\n          -Ziegler\n\n     Presidential gifts\n           -Compact\n                -Presidential seal\n\nHoudek et al. left at 11:32 am","filename":["535-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:28:09","tapeEnd":"02:30:48","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Houdek, Robert G.","Houdek, Robert G.","Haig, Alexander M., Jr.","Ziegler, Ronald L.","Atkins, Oliver F. (\"Ollie\")"],"prevCode":"535-006","nextCode":"535-008","transcript":[{"start":4.33,"end":25.88,"text":"So then, President Powell, Mr. Powell's voting, Mr. Powell's voting, another one of our pros and cons, and now he's coming in."},{"start":25.9,"end":26.64,"text":"I'm sorry for the delusion, I'll say."},{"start":26.66,"end":29.79,"text":"All these people have worked out here hours, and here hours, and here hours, and here hours, and here hours, and here hours, and here hours, and here hours."},{"start":30.14,"end":49.32,"text":"How is that going now?"},{"start":49.34,"end":49.78,"text":"It's going to be hard."},{"start":49.8,"end":50.4,"text":"You're going to be a freshman?"},{"start":50.42,"end":50.6,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":50.62,"end":50.88,"text":"That's great."},{"start":50.9,"end":51.32,"text":"Well, that's my name."},{"start":51.34,"end":51.76,"text":"You're going to move."},{"start":51.78,"end":52.2,"text":"You're going to move."},{"start":52.22,"end":52.88,"text":"That's what you're going to have."},{"start":52.9,"end":53.1,"text":"All right."},{"start":53.12,"end":53.62,"text":"If you're not a freshman."},{"start":53.64,"end":53.9,"text":"Oh, yes, yes."},{"start":53.92,"end":54.16,"text":"One college."},{"start":54.18,"end":54.42,"text":"One college."},{"start":54.89,"end":77.04,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":77.06,"end":77.24,"text":"I can be."},{"start":77.26,"end":77.4,"text":"I will."},{"start":77.42,"end":78.06,"text":"I can, and they are on the date."},{"start":78.08,"end":78.94,"text":"They're going to be to the box back around."},{"start":78.96,"end":79.14,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":79.16,"end":80.58,"text":"Mr. President, your fire security and insurance has come over here now."},{"start":80.6,"end":81.18,"text":"With the fighters all around."},{"start":81.2,"end":81.74,"text":"I think I'll put you on it."},{"start":81.76,"end":82.36,"text":"I'll be in bed there in a sec."},{"start":82.38,"end":82.58,"text":"All right."},{"start":82.6,"end":83.1,"text":"You're responsible, then."},{"start":83.12,"end":84.16,"text":"I know those are going to keep saying they're lying."},{"start":84.19,"end":84.33,"text":"I know."},{"start":84.34,"end":84.48,"text":"I know."},{"start":84.5,"end":84.64,"text":"I know."},{"start":85.42,"end":113.04,"text":"I don't know if we got any compacts left."},{"start":113.06,"end":113.42,"text":"We had to get one."},{"start":113.44,"end":114.16,"text":"If you don't have one, there we are."},{"start":114.97,"end":136.72,"text":"This is the presidential seal of the compact."},{"start":136.74,"end":137.91,"text":"I don't think girls use compacts, but they do have proofs."},{"start":137.93,"end":139.33,"text":"Well, I hope you, after that, you'll come back to government sometime."},{"start":139.35,"end":139.71,"text":"Good luck."},{"start":145.19,"end":148.99,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with NSC staffer Robert G. Houdek, his wife, Alexander Haig, and Ronald Ziegler to facilitate a brief farewell and photo opportunity. During the meeting, the President discussed Houdek’s transition to Princeton University for his undergraduate studies. The encounter concluded with the President presenting a gift featuring the presidential seal to Houdek's wife.","topics":["Robert G. 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