{"conversationCode":"535-009","tapeNumber":535,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-535-009","startDateTime":"1971-07-02T15:32:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-07-02T15:36:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jul-1971","startTime":"11:32 AM","endDate":"2-Jul-1971","endTime":"11:36 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Dwinell, Lane; Dwinell, Elizabeth (Cushman); Butterfield, Alexander P.; Atkins, Oliver F. (\"Ollie\");","description":"On July 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Lane Dwinell, Elizabeth (Cushman) Dwinell, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Oliver F. (\"Ollie\") Atkins met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:32 am to 11:36 am. 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Atkins was present during part of the meeting\n\n     Lane Dwinell\n          -The President's appreciation for work\n\n     Schedule\n          -Mrs. Nixon's luncheon for Mrs. Juan Velasco\n               -Invitation for the Dwinells\n\n     Photograph\n\n     Dwinell's work\n         -Dwinell's future plans\n\n     Presidential gifts\n\n     Lunch for Mrs. Velasco\n         -US-Peruvian relations\n\nMr. and Mrs. Dwinell left at 11:36 am","filename":["535-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:31:06","tapeEnd":"02:34:46","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Dwinell, Lane","Dwinell, Elizabeth (Cushman)","Butterfield, Alexander P.","Atkins, Oliver F. (\"Ollie\")"],"prevCode":"535-008","nextCode":"535-010","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":28.03,"text":"All right, man."},{"start":28.05,"end":28.25,"text":"That's it."},{"start":28.27,"end":28.43,"text":"Come on."},{"start":28.45,"end":28.65,"text":"That's it."},{"start":28.67,"end":28.87,"text":"That's it."},{"start":28.89,"end":29.09,"text":"That's it."},{"start":29.11,"end":29.31,"text":"That's it."},{"start":29.33,"end":29.53,"text":"That's it."},{"start":29.55,"end":29.75,"text":"That's it."},{"start":29.77,"end":29.97,"text":"That's it."},{"start":29.99,"end":30.19,"text":"That's it."},{"start":30.81,"end":46.97,"text":"Uh, if you could, uh, if you could set it up."},{"start":46.99,"end":48.05,"text":"Do you agree for us to take this to that lunch today?"},{"start":48.07,"end":48.89,"text":"Certainly, yes, you can have lunch today."},{"start":48.91,"end":49.51,"text":"Well, if you'd just set it up."},{"start":49.53,"end":50.73,"text":"Mrs. Polanski, will you just count it up to the last minute?"},{"start":50.75,"end":51.77,"text":"As she came today, there was a kind of misdemeanor."},{"start":51.79,"end":54.8,"text":"She was looking at the board, and all of a sudden, there was a person down there, and there were, I think, 30 or 40, 50 people counting from the desk."},{"start":54.82,"end":55.9,"text":"Well, if you'd like to come, what do you like to know?"},{"start":55.92,"end":57.24,"text":"Just like you are, what is the kind of block you want us to go on?"},{"start":57.73,"end":84.83,"text":"That's a great idea."},{"start":84.85,"end":85.61,"text":"That'll be a good way to... All right."},{"start":87.04,"end":103.88,"text":"I think it's perfect."},{"start":103.9,"end":104.14,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":104.16,"end":104.52,"text":"Now it's all done."},{"start":104.54,"end":105.57,"text":"You've got to make sure you're good at coloring."},{"start":105.59,"end":106.09,"text":"No, that's fine."},{"start":106.11,"end":106.19,"text":"Yes."},{"start":106.21,"end":112.98,"text":"Oh, well, that's good."},{"start":113,"end":113.24,"text":"There we go."},{"start":113.26,"end":113.92,"text":"Well, we, I do want to thank you."},{"start":113.94,"end":114.52,"text":"That's a long, hard struggle."},{"start":114.54,"end":116.2,"text":"All the good that you do will, will promise to get us good marks after we go there."},{"start":116.64,"end":136.11,"text":"Or bad marks in hell, we know that."},{"start":136.13,"end":136.65,"text":"Well, it's been enjoyable."},{"start":136.67,"end":137.47,"text":"It's been a great meeting, to be honest."},{"start":137.49,"end":137.97,"text":"It's been a complex one."},{"start":137.99,"end":139,"text":"I've enjoyed being a member of the administration."},{"start":139.01,"end":139.42,"text":"We're proud of that."},{"start":139.44,"end":140.3,"text":"Are you going back to New England?"},{"start":140.32,"end":140.68,"text":"No, not that part."},{"start":140.7,"end":141.02,"text":"No, we did 11th."},{"start":141.04,"end":141.14,"text":"11th?"},{"start":141.16,"end":141.38,"text":"11th, yeah."},{"start":142.47,"end":162.94,"text":"I know every time."},{"start":162.96,"end":164.88,"text":"It looks different this time of year than the last time we were there, when we had the red ones."},{"start":164.9,"end":165.28,"text":"Well, that's right."},{"start":165.3,"end":166.31,"text":"The only red I think I ever went to was down here."},{"start":166.32,"end":166.65,"text":"I remember that."},{"start":166.67,"end":167.33,"text":"It's so much beautiful down here."},{"start":167.35,"end":167.45,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":167.47,"end":167.75,"text":"Oh, right now."},{"start":167.77,"end":167.89,"text":"Great."},{"start":167.91,"end":168.59,"text":"Yeah, I was there for a few years."},{"start":168.61,"end":169.03,"text":"Now, let me say this."},{"start":169.05,"end":169.43,"text":"I gave you a cover."},{"start":169.45,"end":169.83,"text":"There's your pilot."},{"start":170.15,"end":188.16,"text":"Oh, my God."},{"start":188.18,"end":188.58,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":188.6,"end":189,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":189.15,"end":215.62,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":215.63,"end":215.81,"text":"Come on."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Lane and Elizabeth Dwinell to express his personal appreciation for Lane Dwinell's service to the administration. The brief encounter included a discussion regarding a scheduled luncheon for Mrs. Juan Velasco, to which the Dwinells were invited as part of broader diplomatic engagement. The meeting concluded with the exchange of presidential gifts and a photograph, marking the formal end of Dwinell's tenure.","topics":["Lane Dwinell","Diplomatic relations","US-Peru relations","Presidential gifts","Oval Office protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T23:15:42.302Z"},"topicSlugs":["lane-dwinell","diplomatic-relations","us-peru-relations","presidential-gifts","oval-office-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":218,"audioFiles":[{"file":"535-009.mp3","bytes":8732003,"durationSec":218.15,"bitrate":320216,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.010Z","transcriptGapSeconds":172,"transcriptGapShare":0.79,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/535-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/535-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/535/conversation-535-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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