{"conversationCode":"535-016","tapeNumber":535,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-535-016","startDateTime":"1971-07-02T15:59:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-07-02T16:02:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jul-1971","startTime":"11:59 AM","endDate":"2-Jul-1971","endTime":"12:02 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Keating, William J.; Wengler, Herbert W.; Fossier, Richard A.;","description":"On July 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, William J. Keating, Herbert W. Wengler, and Richard A. Fossier met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:59 am to 12:02 pm. 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(“Bob”) Haldeman\n                -Possible future manufacture\n\n     Administration’s accomplishments\n         -Vietnam war\n         -Unemployment rate\n\n     Presidential gifts\n\n     Baseball\n\nKeating et al. left at 12:02 pm","filename":["535-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:57:43","tapeEnd":"03:02:16","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Keating, William J.","Wengler, Herbert W.","Fossier, Richard A."],"prevCode":"535-015","nextCode":"535-017","transcript":[{"start":3.31,"end":14.93,"text":"President, Chairman, Bill Keeney."},{"start":14.95,"end":15.61,"text":"Well, how are you, Mr. President?"},{"start":15.63,"end":16.13,"text":"Good to see you, Senator."},{"start":16.15,"end":17.29,"text":"Senator, I'd like to share a message with everybody here."},{"start":17.31,"end":17.83,"text":"President Jay Fossey here."},{"start":17.85,"end":18.66,"text":"I'd like to say good evening to you all."},{"start":18.68,"end":19.7,"text":"Mr. President, I'd like to say good evening to you."},{"start":19.72,"end":20.74,"text":"Mr. President, I'd like to say good evening to you."},{"start":21.04,"end":41.89,"text":"We had the occasion on September 1st to thank the people for a memorial to former President Johnson."},{"start":41.91,"end":42.89,"text":"It came rather soundly, but we've been fantastic."},{"start":42.91,"end":44.71,"text":"To be honest with you, it's made much better than the President read it all on the street."},{"start":44.73,"end":45.21,"text":"How many did we move to?"},{"start":45.23,"end":46.67,"text":"Did you do some grading for him, or did he make the top 20 or something?"},{"start":46.7,"end":47.38,"text":"Well, the original was a campaign."},{"start":47.4,"end":49.16,"text":"We don't have a boundary, but we made it together on the road, and we found that he did."},{"start":49.18,"end":49.26,"text":"Yes."},{"start":49.74,"end":76.33,"text":"I spoke to her earlier about, I mean to all of them, about the fact that when we say, if I want to mention a little bit of a different way, with regard to the, when we say the residential suites, to give a little seagull,"},{"start":76.51,"end":91.48,"text":"We can't get on a scale like this unless it has a signature on it."},{"start":91.5,"end":92.4,"text":"But you're the reason to put that on the box."},{"start":92.42,"end":93.06,"text":"So you show this to all of them."},{"start":93.08,"end":93.86,"text":"I'm going to be in touch with that man."},{"start":93.88,"end":94.66,"text":"Now, I don't know what I'm going to do."},{"start":94.68,"end":95.12,"text":"Because I can't do it."},{"start":95.14,"end":95.98,"text":"We've got to see what we could do with it."},{"start":96.19,"end":107.65,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":107.67,"end":108.25,"text":"I'm working on a project now."},{"start":108.27,"end":108.59,"text":"Do you see this?"},{"start":108.61,"end":109.43,"text":"Do you have any comment in terms of that?"},{"start":109.45,"end":109.61,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":109.64,"end":109.8,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":109.81,"end":110.3,"text":"You see, this can do it."},{"start":110.32,"end":110.64,"text":"All right, then."},{"start":110.66,"end":111.12,"text":"You can talk some time."},{"start":111.14,"end":111.5,"text":"Be a small talker."},{"start":111.52,"end":111.68,"text":"Why not?"},{"start":112.1,"end":133.51,"text":"I'd like to congratulate you, thank you, for trying to get the Vietnam situation to develop."},{"start":133.53,"end":133.79,"text":"Did you hear?"},{"start":133.81,"end":134.51,"text":"We've got some issues with Vietnam."},{"start":134.53,"end":134.85,"text":"Fingers crossed."},{"start":134.87,"end":136.83,"text":"But, you know, as I told you, there's been more going on than some of the lawyers down there knew."},{"start":136.85,"end":137.29,"text":"I'm sure that's right."},{"start":137.31,"end":138.07,"text":"Look, this is the presidential studio."},{"start":138.09,"end":138.44,"text":"Here's a comment."},{"start":138.46,"end":138.86,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":140.04,"end":140.66,"text":"And here I'll call for a judge."},{"start":140.68,"end":141.04,"text":"Yes, Mr. Chairman."},{"start":141.06,"end":141.4,"text":"Now, here you go."},{"start":141.42,"end":141.7,"text":"You get the..."},{"start":143.81,"end":165.23,"text":"That's right."},{"start":165.25,"end":166.83,"text":"Well, you know, the trouble is, when he came down here, the wreck went to hell."},{"start":166.85,"end":167.73,"text":"Well, you know, everything to the end of it."},{"start":167.75,"end":168.47,"text":"What's the trouble with the fishing?"},{"start":168.49,"end":168.67,"text":"Injuries?"},{"start":168.69,"end":169.17,"text":"We lost a lot of people."},{"start":169.19,"end":169.67,"text":"Oh, the cars were great."},{"start":169.69,"end":170.13,"text":"That was a great time."},{"start":170.55,"end":192.47,"text":"We're great."},{"start":192.49,"end":192.83,"text":"We appreciate it."},{"start":193.18,"end":221.63,"text":"They can't put the seal up unless I'm in the place."},{"start":221.65,"end":223.17,"text":"They can put it up if they say presented to so-and-so."},{"start":223.76,"end":240.14,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":240.16,"end":240.32,"text":"Goodbye."},{"start":240.34,"end":240.5,"text":"Goodbye."},{"start":240.52,"end":241.06,"text":"You're out now, aren't you?"},{"start":241.08,"end":241.34,"text":"Yes, I'm out."},{"start":241.36,"end":241.52,"text":"Come on."},{"start":241.54,"end":241.7,"text":"Come on."},{"start":241.72,"end":241.92,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Representative William J. 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