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Conversation 535-020

TapeTape 535StartFriday, July 2, 1971 at 12:16 PMEndFriday, July 2, 1971 at 12:16 PMTape start time03:16:05Tape end time03:18:13ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed the design and production of permanent commemorative plaques featuring the presidential seal for use in hotels and meeting rooms visited by the President. They deliberated on materials, such as metal on wood, and the appropriate language to designate specific "presidential suites." The President instructed Bull to formalize these installations as a standardized practice for commemorative purposes.

Presidential sealHotel accommodationsCommemorative plaquesWhite House logistics
AudioNARA Description

On July 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:16 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 535-020 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 535-20

Date: July 2, 1971
Time: 12:16 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     Presidential seal
          -Construction
          -Plaque
                -Presentations in commemoration of presidential visits
                       -Hotel suites, meeting rooms

Bull left at 12:16 pm
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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That steel, I think that might well be the way to do that, because I think it has to be something that has permanence.
You can't have it made in a carpenter's shop and then have it be cracked.
Yes, Your Honor.
We also had something in mind, something that would say, a metal plaque perhaps on a wooden background would say, in commemoration of the visit of Richard Nixon, President of the United States, had the seal break.
And then a smaller seal down in the lower left-hand corner, similar to that of the Jurassic plaque that we had, something that could be permanently affixed to the wall, and would say, President Lange's suite has to be on a purchase.
Do you agree?
You see, I told Paul to put on the words presidential suite, Marsden.
Presidential suite.
And then put the seal on it and say, and you can put something with regard to it.
But you've got to have a presidential suite on it.
You see, they always have presidential suite on it somewhere.
Or present it to the presidential suite
black hotel, or something like that.
But you see, they might be able to make that.
They might be able to make it.
We're also thinking in terms of hotels where you might have spoken to them and said you should take Congress, but didn't stay there.
Also, just say, for that hotel president, just leave.
But work something out.
It's good.
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