Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 547-005 Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1971 at 10:36 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Chamie, Alfred P.; Conn, Norman; Williams, James B.; Colson, Charles W. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/547-005 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:19] This is where our [0:51] Okay. [1:20] Okay. [1:20] Okay. [1:20] Okay. [1:20] Thank you. [3:07] . [3:35] . [3:35] . [3:35] . [3:36] . [3:36] . [3:36] So this way down there, it's a very, uh, not to, uh, you know, I can guarantee that [4:06] I hope they get around the world, but I'm talking about this long, hard journey that's coming to an end. [4:28] And it's coming to an end in a way that we better all anguish that this country is going to have a chance to survive and choose to survive. [4:31] And these elections in October, in fact, are very important to be aware of it. [4:32] It's very important to be aware of the very choices that we made possible rather than having to start with the bullshit. [4:35] I'm with the whole thing that I hear, that it was the snake of opposition that Christmas killed him in Mexico. [4:57] Oh, sir. [4:57] Oh, sir, we are all happy to know that. [4:58] If that happens, I think it'd be a discrediting information. [4:59] In fact, in fact, in fact, I always thought that it was the big man, for example, that followed him around. [5:02] I was impressed with the Christmas killings in this case. [5:03] I think Greg got, uh, did he ever take it? [5:06] I was just thinking of the key express process that they take when they're in this event, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a look at the system, and then they take a [5:34] Yeah, I'm very positive about it. [5:50] I do tell people about it. [5:51] I'm not sure the reason for it, but when you refer somebody else, you never see the same thing. [5:53] You go, where are they? [5:53] Everything looks like they're on their own now. [5:54] Now they're broke. [5:54] No, one of the tasks they're asking is everything you've done. [5:56] How do you do it? [5:56] I've been asking you all the time now. [5:57] They didn't have to have a very wonderful physical body. [6:21] You look like you're going to be there in a year. [6:22] That was your job. [6:23] Yeah, I was going to be there. [6:23] I was going to be there. [6:24] I was going to be there. [6:24] I was going to be there. [6:25] and we were down at Carmel Sheik in the district of Surrey. [6:50] And everybody liked to lift us to the problems and the positions we needed. [6:52] And we had a resolution from the American Legion that was passed last May, urging you to, if you would, to give consideration [6:55] We don't know if they think a great deal wants to do it. [7:25] I would give a lot of hope to everybody. [7:48] And I wouldn't cost them anything. [7:49] Just, uh, not to, uh, you know, it's, uh, it's still something they've got to decide. [7:51] And I think it's, uh, they're very concerned. [7:51] I'm probably not sure it's particularly, uh, uh, strong in their appreciation of what he did. [7:53] He had, uh, his, uh, his values and, uh, for times later, and, uh, [7:55] He was there right after. [8:24] They were very concerned at that time because I think the arrangements with the United States had ended in June 1st. [8:52] So that's me sharing that. [8:52] Thank you. [8:53] While you were sitting there in the middle of that, you were looking two-faced at us. [9:17] I had a lot of respect for you. [9:17] Most people are really, you can't just cut more cuts. [9:18] They say we'd rather die and do this than do the other thing. [9:20] On the other hand, it will be, they can gain a lot of support by it. [9:21] If they make one move, say, on the suicide thing, which they aren't sure, [9:23] And he thought, why not, we're going to go to it. [9:48] There was a big elevation on the airport. [9:48] It was definitely a war, but not as a coup. [9:49] I think it was a war of change and so on. [9:50] On my outreach trip, I had a very fine meeting with the president, Jerry Kennedy. [9:52] And we got to Korea, too. [9:53] I don't know why I want to do this. [10:16] So, I have to go to the American market. [10:17] This is the American market. [10:17] It's very active. [10:18] And I'm going to do this. [10:18] And I'm going to do this. [10:19] And I'm going to do this. [10:19] And I'm going to do this. [10:20] And I'm going to do this. [10:22] Yeah. [10:51] Sure. [10:51] Sure. [10:51] Yeah. [10:51] I have a feeling he's running now. [11:18] I did run across some sound up there at the time, and especially once the chamber comes in the middle of the province, [11:22] make contact with Russia on some economic exchange. [11:47] And there was that discussion going on in the opposition. [11:48] And quite a bit of... Well, the whole place was a big flux of curses. [11:49] Yeah. [11:49] All the nations. [11:50] And you were a viewer of curses. [11:51] We were out there, you were back here, and we had our time up. [12:15] Yeah, and I was deeply impressed with the ministry today that you took. [12:17] I think it's, you know, it's dangerous. [12:18] It's dangerous. [12:18] A lot of people are overreacting to things because they don't [12:21] I mean, both sides are going in with very different views about the four of those people. [12:44] On the other hand, there had to be a move made to take the eight of the different Chinese and to begin pretending they're isolated from the rest of the world. [12:47] They were not having a chance to have a peaceful world. [12:48] I was deeply impressed by two of the points you made. [12:50] One was that they want you to do what you're doing [12:59] Correct. [13:28] Right. [13:28] Right. [13:28] Right. [13:28] Right. [13:28] Right. [13:29] Right. [13:33] And I was hoping very deeply that Steve would come to see me and be best with me. [14:04] And particularly on this issue here, from my point of view, it's a tremendous difference. [14:26] There's a point where I think your accusation is reasonable, but the D.F.W. [14:28] is doubtful. [14:28] That's the reason for it. [14:29] That's one that I want you to have in mind, that the D.F.W. [14:30] was here all the time, but I think we need to start from there. [14:34] If it's at all possible to reconsider, it would be a tremendous thing. [14:53] I truly appreciate it, and I'm glad you're here. [14:54] I'm glad you're here. [14:54] I know how much it means to you, and I thank you. [14:55] But you could be of such importance in an area where I would like to see some support that could build up within our city. [15:02] ... ... ... ... ... [15:32] and then there'd be an opportunity of that. [16:03] I'm sorry. [16:32] I'm sorry. [16:34] Yes, he did. [16:55] He really did. [16:55] I know. [16:55] But it was my fault. [16:56] It was Kevin's fault. [16:56] It was Kevin's fault. [16:57] It was Kevin's fault. [16:57] It was Kevin's fault. [16:58] It was Kevin's fault. [16:58] It was Kevin's fault. [16:59] It was Kevin's fault. [17:04] And frankly, Mr. President, to be very frank and honest, I don't think that there are many presidents who could have done it. [17:33] I think you need to raise your credibility and state it. [17:34] I think that's probably the thing to remind the board. [18:03] And as a matter of fact, I have children that you're past that position of extreme, that there's no value in something that you use as a creation. [18:27] And if you could, if it's possible in any way to make this a convention, it would be a tremendous honor. [18:29] It would be a first nation convention itself. [18:30] But you know what to do. [18:31] I just take care of it. [18:32] The thing is I agreed to go to yours last year, and I'm going to have to be up there this year, and I've got a little box here, and I have to do one of the other problems, and the issue is being doing both the same year and also in the same space. [19:00] So, let's see, this one, where are the things we take a hard look at? [19:02] You assume that we won't, but I'm just saying. [19:27] It's a little difficult for me to explain to someone. [19:28] Yeah, it's a little difficult for me to explain to someone. [19:29] Yeah, it's a little difficult for me to explain to someone. [19:30] Yeah, it's a little difficult for me to explain to someone. [19:32] I don't know. [20:02] I had heard, uh, I had heard Jack Lenny [20:33] the indicators, the regulations, and what they can do. [20:59] I think it's coming along. [21:00] It is for the children to be able to be able, for children to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able [21:03] But we don't want to get out of the breach from a hot spot because I don't think we're supposed to work on the agency that way. [21:26] Where can you go there? [21:26] You just saw the president of California. [21:27] He can't trust the New York-California industry. [21:28] The industry just doesn't rely on money to stand up for themselves. [21:29] I don't want them to be able to get out of the market. [21:30] I don't know. [21:31] I don't know. [21:31] I don't think we've got anything to do with that. [21:32] Money doesn't help any sector or agency. [21:33] That's right. [21:54] That's right. [21:55] That's right. [22:03] I'm out of here. [22:32] I'm out of here. [22:32] I'm out of here. [22:33] I'm out of here. [22:33] I'm out of here. [22:34] I got an F.D. [22:56] and I'm very concerned about the immigration situation and things like that. [22:58] I'm very concerned about the immigration situation and things like that. [23:06] Yeah. [23:27] Yeah. [23:27] Yeah. [23:28] Yeah. [23:38] Yeah. [24:02] Yeah. [24:02] Yeah. [24:03] Yeah. [24:03] Oh, well, [24:04] Uh, let me say, the problem there, and of course this has to be worked on at a later time. [24:19] It's a matter of negotiations with the Senate. [24:20] The problem is the number. [24:21] How many we can get. [24:21] And it's, uh, of course, it's a matter of how much we can go if we can't have it. [24:24] But we put it down. [24:44] He's a great Paul. [24:44] And he's only over many years great at our college. [24:45] And he's the kind of person that is a good support to the great church of our people. [24:47] Well, Mr. Preston, I hope and trust that it's possible to reach the confession of that man. [24:51] I do appreciate your problem. [24:56] Well, you know, I mean, you should ask. [24:58] I'm a servant. [25:22] Well, you helped us there. [25:48] Yeah. [25:48] Anyway, thank you, John. [25:48] Good time. [25:49] Yeah. [25:49] What about you, sir? [25:49] I'm sorry. [25:49] I'm sorry. [25:50] I'm sorry. [25:50] I'm sorry. [25:51] I'm using a money club. [26:14] You use a money club? [26:15] I've already used a money club. [26:15] I've already used a money club. [26:16] I've already used a money club. [26:17] I've already used a money club. [26:17] I've already used a money club. [26:18] I've already used a money club. [26:19] I've already used a money club. [26:21] It's hard to realize. [26:42] This is very special. [26:42] You only get about 25 of those. [26:43] I've got to hand you this present. [26:45] Well, I'm trying to take care of yourself. [26:47] Do you agree that you look fine today? [26:48] I do.