{"conversationCode":"549-008","tapeNumber":549,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-549-008","startDateTime":"1971-07-28T15:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-07-28T15:23:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Jul-1971","startTime":"11:16 AM","endDate":"28-Jul-1971","endTime":"11:23 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On July 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:16 am and 11:23 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 549-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 549-008\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nDate: July 28, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 11:16 am and 11:23 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Rose Mary Woods.\n\n     Note\n            -Requirements\n\n     Scheduling of White House social events\n          -Lowell Watham\n               -Guest list\n          -Frank McCarthy\n               -Unknown boy\n          -Dinner\n               -Patrick J. and Shelley A. (Scarney” Buchanan\n                     -Raymond K. Price, Jr., William L. Safire\n                     -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon","filename":["549-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:54:29","tapeEnd":"01:57:28","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"549-007","nextCode":"549-009","transcript":[{"start":7.54,"end":20.68,"text":"I wondered if you, uh, had, uh, made a note about that Notary Twins?"},{"start":20.7,"end":20.8,"text":"Yeah?"},{"start":20.82,"end":21.98,"text":"Fine, great, great."},{"start":22,"end":23.58,"text":"Just so it went off out of here."},{"start":23.6,"end":30.71,"text":"Second point is, did you, uh, and I'm reminded, did we ever do, have Roe Watkins down there?"},{"start":35.52,"end":59.42,"text":"There's nothing particular, but just for, because of personal reasons, I think he should come sometime."},{"start":59.44,"end":60.1,"text":"So they put him, put him on here."},{"start":60.12,"end":61.19,"text":"He said, do you remember Frank McCarthy on the train?"},{"start":61.21,"end":62.07,"text":"Yeah, his, yeah."},{"start":65.93,"end":73,"text":"Now, church, church is something there."},{"start":74.18,"end":76.04,"text":"But the boy, I guess, looks exactly like Frank."},{"start":76.06,"end":76.46,"text":"He looks like Frank."},{"start":76.48,"end":84.24,"text":"Might have looked when he was a boy a big good looking kid."},{"start":84.26,"end":89.58,"text":"He was a big, nice guy, you know, very friendly."},{"start":89.6,"end":90.27,"text":"But I kind of had a problem."},{"start":92.3,"end":110.14,"text":"is good."},{"start":110.81,"end":111.97,"text":"I don't know which one she might have gotten, but... Good."},{"start":111.99,"end":113.55,"text":"I wondered if, actually, we need ten."},{"start":113.57,"end":114.37,"text":"I mean, what I meant is we could do ten."},{"start":114.39,"end":116.25,"text":"You see, they have two tables together, and they could do it."},{"start":116.27,"end":120.34,"text":"But I wondered, actually, if this would be a good time to maybe have the Buchanans and Charlotte come up."},{"start":125.36,"end":130.17,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":137.32,"end":140.43,"text":"Well, I'm thinking, would you just raise it with Pat?"},{"start":140.45,"end":143.19,"text":"Because she had mentioned that she wanted to have the Buchanan's, you know, since they were married for some time."},{"start":143.21,"end":145.75,"text":"See, we've had to raise it a couple of times."},{"start":145.78,"end":148.1,"text":"And Sapphire, of course, has been to a number of, you know, White House things, you know, dinners and things."},{"start":148.12,"end":149.38,"text":"And I don't think Buchanan, I haven't really seen it."},{"start":149.4,"end":150.72,"text":"He doesn't like this sort of thing."},{"start":150.74,"end":150.86,"text":"But..."},{"start":157.58,"end":167.88,"text":"That's right, Shelly did work for him."},{"start":167.9,"end":168.34,"text":"She's not a bad idea."},{"start":169.06,"end":169.54,"text":"Yeah, they've been good."},{"start":169.56,"end":171.23,"text":"They worked a wedding, so that's big."},{"start":171.25,"end":174.01,"text":"Right, but isn't that, I just thought it might fit in with it."},{"start":174.03,"end":175.04,"text":"She wanted a couple of us, but they don't have to."},{"start":175.06,"end":175.82,"text":"She doesn't like the idea of skipping."},{"start":175.84,"end":175.94,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discussed administrative details regarding White House social scheduling and guest list management. The conversation focused on inviting Lowell Watham, acknowledging Frank McCarthy, and organizing an upcoming dinner featuring Pat Nixon, Patrick and Shelley Buchanan, Raymond Price, and William Safire. 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