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3:49Rydyn ni wedi cael hynny wedi llwyddo, ac mae pawb wedi cymryd hynny i fyny.
4:10Rydyn ni eisiau rhywun sy'n gallu gwneud hynny.
4:11Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
4:12Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
4:12Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
4:13Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
4:35Felly, roeddwn i wedi cael ychydig o adnoddau ar y pad yma.
4:56Roeddwn i'n dod i'w gael.
4:57Roeddwn i wedi cael.
4:57Roeddwn i wedi cael.
4:58Roeddwn i wedi cael.
4:58Roeddwn i wedi cael.
4:59Roeddwn i wedi cael.
4:59Roeddwn i wedi cael.
4:59Roeddwn i wedi cael.
5:00Roeddwn i wedi cael.
5:00Roeddwn i wedi cael.
5:01Roeddwn i wedi cael.
5:01Roeddwn i wedi cael.
5:01Roeddwn i wedi cael.
5:02Roeddwn i wedi cael.
5:02Roeddwn i wedi cael.
5:03Roeddwn i wedi cael.
5:09ychwanegu, ychwanegu, ychwanegu, ychwanegu, ychwanegu, ychwanegu, ychwanegu, ychwanegu, ychwanegu
5:39ac mae rhywun arall wedi gwneud hynny.
5:51Mae wedi gwneud hynny.
5:52Mae wedi gwneud hynny.
5:56Mae wedi gwneud hynny.
5:58Mae wedi gwneud hynny.
5:58Mae wedi gwneud hynny.
5:59Mae wedi gwneud hynny.
6:00Mae wedi gwneud hynny.
6:14Mae'r bobl gwleidyddol yma'n bwysig am yr amrywiaeth.
7:16Dwi ddim yn meddwl.
7:37Dwi'n meddwl eich bod chi'n rhoi'r pethau y mae'n cael ei siarad amdanyn nhw.
7:39Os ydych chi'n bwysicaf, beth yw'r broblem?
7:40A'r pethau y mae'n cael ei ddweud?
7:45Mae'r rhain wedi'u rhannu.
8:10Mae'r rhain wedi'u rhannu.
8:11Mae'r rhain wedi'u rhannu.
8:12Mae'r rhain wedi'u rhannu.
8:12Mae'r rhain wedi'u rhannu.
8:13Mae'r rhain wedi'u rhannu.
8:13Mae'r rhain wedi'u rhannu.
8:19Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn i'n meddwl y byddwn i'n meddwl y byddwn i'n meddwl y byddwn i'n meddwl y byddwn i'n meddwl y byddwn i'n meddwl.
8:47Mae'n rhaid i chi wneud hynny.
9:10Gallwch chi wneud hynny.
9:11Roedd hi'n gweithio i fyny.
9:11Mae hi'n gweithio i fyny.
9:12Mae hi'n gweithio i fyny.
9:12Mae hi'n gweithio i fyny.
9:13Mae hi'n gweithio i fyny.
9:13Mae hi'n gweithio i fyny.
9:14Wel, os ydw i'n gallu gwneud rhywfaint o'r hyn sydd wedi'i wneud, bydd hi'n dod i fyny.
9:20Bydd hi'n dod i fyny.
10:18Mae ganddo'r holl bwyd o'r llaw a'r amgylcheddau cymdeithasol.
10:39Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:40Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:41Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:41Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:42Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:43Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:44Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:45Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:45Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:46Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:47Mae'n rhaid i ni ddatganfod pethau.
10:47Mae'n rha
10:50Mae llawer o'r eraill yn gwneud hynny.
11:08Ie.
11:17Felly, ie, un o'r ffyrdd bach, lle roedden ni'n siarad am Florida diwethaf, Roaster,
11:19Mae'n dweud nad yw hynny'n wir.
11:43Mae hynny'n dweud nad yw hynny'n wir.
11:44Mae'n dweud nad yw hynny'n wir.
11:45Yr hyn y mae hi'n ei wneud, pan fydd hi'n rhedeg hynny, yw bod hi'n dweud, wel, mae gen i blynyddoedd eraill ar gyfer y wythnos.
11:59Os byddwn i'n ei angenu yno, mi fyddwn i'n rhaid mynd, ac rwy'n gwneud hynny.
12:01Mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae'n debyg, mae
12:10Dwi'n meddwl bod hynny'n rhaid i mi ddweud.
12:46Rydw i'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n gallu gwneud hynny'n dda.
13:04Mae'n dda, mae'n dda.
13:05Mae'n dda.
13:05Mae'n dda.
13:06Mae'n dda.
13:06Mae'n dda.
13:06Mae'n dda.
13:06Mae'n dda.
13:07ond dydw i ddim yn gweithio'n dda gyda Ros a John Scali.
13:23Roeddwn i'n argymell y bydden nhw eisiau mynd allan i'r Cynon ac ystyried yng Nghymru drwy'r wythnos.
13:25Fe wnaethon nhw fynd allan i'r Nghymru drwy'r wythnos, ac nid oedd rhaid i unrhyw un ohonyn nhw fynd allan i'r Iowa a'r California.
13:30Oherwydd nid oedd rhywbeth, nid oedd unrhyw gynllun gweithredu yn cael ei wneud.
13:33Rwy'n meddwl, roeddwn i ddim yn siŵr o'r ffordd y byddech chi'n ei ddweud diolch.
13:46Roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roeddwn i'n meddwl, roedd
13:58Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud wrthym.
14:25Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud wrthym.
14:26Mae hi wedi dod i lawr am amser ac mae hi wedi dod i lawr pan oedd hi'n hoffi.
14:44Rwy'n gwybod, os oes hi'n mynd i lawr, mae hi bob amser yn gwneud hynny.
14:46Mae'n rhaid i mi ddod i lawr i roi newydd rhwg mewn fy mharffurfa yma.
14:48Mae rhywbeth fel hynny.
14:48Ond os ydw i'n ei angen, byddaf yn dweud na, does dim rhaid i mi ddod o gwmpas.
14:50Efallai yw hynny'n anghywir.
14:50Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud na, does dim rhaid i mi wneud hynny.
14:52Ac yna mae hi'n dod i lawr yno, yn dweud bod yn ei angen, ac yna mae hi'n... Mae'n debyg bod
14:57Rydyn ni ddim yn gallu cael unrhyw un ymlaen yn yr ofn, sydd ddim yn eu hunain.
15:19Rydyn nhw'n rhaid mynd i lawr a gwneud hynny gyda'r gofynion.
15:20Rwy'n credu bod hynny'n rhaid i'r gofynion.
15:21Rydw i ddim yn gallu cael unrhyw un ymlaen yn y gofynion.
15:22Rydyn ni'n gallu gwneud yn y gofynion.
15:23Rydyn ni'n gallu gwneud yn y gofynion.
15:24Rydyn ni'n gallu gwneud yn y gofynion.
15:25Rydyn ni'n gallu gwneud yn y gofynion.
15:25Rydyn ni'n gallu gwneud yn y gofynion.
15:26Rydyn ni'n gallu gwneud yn y gofynion.
15:27R
15:28Ond nid oedd hynny'n rhywbeth i'w wneud.
15:50Roedd Rose yn gwybod beth roedd hi'n ei wneud.
15:51Ie.
15:51Wel, gadewch i mi ddysgu hynny.
15:52Dwi wedi gwneud hynny.
15:52Dwi wedi gwneud hynny.
15:53Dwi wedi gwneud hynny.
15:53Dwi wedi gwneud hynny.
15:54Dwi wedi gwneud hynny.
15:54Dwi wedi gwneud hynny.
16:01ddim yn bwysig.
16:20Yn ein broblem yma, rydyn ni wedi cofio am re-organisio'r fferm.
16:23Wel, fe siaradwyd â George a dweud, beth allwn i ddweud y byddwn yn gweithredu?
16:25Oherwydd dyna'r holl bwysigrwydd i mi fod yn gweithredu.
16:26Felly mae'n edrych ar hynny.
16:26Mae'n rhaid i ni ddrys rhywbeth o'r llinell bwysig, oherwydd mae wedi bod yn cyd-destunol, wedi bod yn cyd-destunol ar hynny.
16:45Mae'n rhaid i chi ddechrau.
17:02Mae'n rhaid i chi ddechrau.
17:06Mae'n rhaid i chi ddechrau.
17:10Mae'n rhaid i chi ddechrau.
17:10Mae'n rhaid i chi ddechrau.
17:11Mae'n rhaid i chi ddechrau.
17:11Mae'n rhaid i chi ddechrau.
17:12Felly yna, a dyna sut rydw i wedi cyflawni'r esenwad, 72 esenwad y byddwn ni'n gwneud.
17:21Felly rydyn ni wedi cael 3 mlynedd yn gyfan o ddewisiadau, a dyna lle mae'r bobl yn gwneud hynny'n gyflawni'r esenwad.
17:26Mae'n rhaid i ni wneud hynny.
17:40Mae'n 10.30.
17:59Ie.
18:11Mae'n rhaid i fi ddweud hynny.
18:37Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud hynny.
18:37Mae'n rhaid i fi ddweud hynny.
18:39Mae rhywun sydd wedi rhoi'r llyfr i ni neu rhywbeth, mae hynny'n ddiddorol.
19:02Wel, efallai efallai rhywbeth arall.
19:02Fe wna i ddilyn ymlaen ar y conglwyddo.
19:03Mae'n debyg.
19:15Y ffordd rwy'n mynd i'w wneud, os nad ydych chi'n cael hynny, yw byddwn i'n aros i'r papur yma heddiw, a byddwn i'n mynd i'r papur yma heddiw, a byddwn i'n mynd i'r papur yma heddiw, a byddwn i'n mynd i'r papur yma heddiw, a byddwn i'n mynd i'r papur yma heddiw.
19:49Diolch yn fawr.
20:13Diolch yn fawr.
20:17ac mae Regan yn debyg yn bwysau Finch hefyd wrth gwrs, mae'n siarad â Regan am hynny.
20:25Neu, dwi ddim yn gwybod unrhyw atebion.
20:25Roeddwn i'n benderfynu rhywbeth, beth ydych chi'n ei wneud?
20:27Roeddwn i'n meddwl y byddech chi'n ei wneud yn y farchnad yn ôl, ond dwi ddim yn gwneud hynny.
20:52Rydw i eisiau... Rydw i eisiau... Rydw i eisiau... Rydw i eisiau... Rydw i eisiau... Rydw i eisiau...
21:23Ac roedd yn dweud eu bod nhw'n gwisgo'r peth hwn i fynd ymlaen ac maen nhw'n cael mwy o gynhyrchu i fynd allan.
21:45Felly, roedd yn dweud eu bod yn ceisio gwneud hynny.
21:46Mae'r holl hynny yw eu bod yn ceisio gwisgo'r llyfrau.
21:48Maen nhw'n meddwl y maen nhw'n gwneud rhywbeth ddefnyddiol.
22:00Maen nhw'n credu y maen nhw'n mynd i fod yn ddefnyddiol i chi.
22:04Mae hynny'n gwirioneddol.
22:04Mae'n rhaid i chi.
22:05Yn amlwg, pan nad ydyn nhw'n cael eu cymryd i ffwrdd â hynny.
22:06Yn amlwg, nid yw Buckley yn hynny.
22:07Nid yw Mahoney yn hynny.
22:08Rwy'n siŵr y gallai rhai ohonyn nhw ei wneud.
22:09A byddan nhw'n cael rhai o'r eraill yn cael eu cymryd i ffwrdd?
22:33Wel, byddan nhw'n cael rhai o'r digwyddiadau dynol.
22:34Ie.
22:35Ychydig o amser.
22:35Ychydig o amser.
22:35Ychydig o amser.
22:36Ychydig o amser.
22:36Ychydig o amser.
22:36Ychydig o amser.
22:37Ychydig o amser.
22:38Roedd John yn bwysig am Mahoney yn dod i ffwrdd â'r tro, ac roedd Elliot yn siarad â Mahoney ac roedd wedi cael ei siarad â nhw.
23:00Nid oedd yn bwysig o gwmpas.
23:01Rwy'n meddwl bod hi hefyd wedi siarad â Jim Buckley.
23:02Roedd yn dweud, dyw hwnnw ddim yn mynd i'r sefyllfa hwn ac mae'n ffocilio ei hun.
23:03Wrth gwrs, dyw hwnnw ddim wedi gwneud hynny.
23:05Wel, mae'n debyg ei bod yn mynd i ddynu'r llinell ar ei hun.
23:28Mae hynny'n dda.
23:28Ond mae'n anhygoel sut lawer o ddynion sydd wedi cael.
23:29Dwi ddim yn disgwyl.
23:30Dwi ddim yn gwybod.
23:30Mae'r cyfle i... Yw hynny'n... Yw hynny'n anghywir.
23:31Yw hynny'n anghywir.
23:32Yw hynny'n anghywir.
23:32Yw hynny'n anghywir.
23:32Yw hynny'n anghywir.
23:33Yw hynny'n anghywir.
23:34Yw hynny'n anghywir.
23:34Yw hynny'n anghywir.
23:36Mae'r Cymdeithas Rhifon yn cymryd i chi fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i
24:12Rwy'n meddwl mai'r ffordd y mae'n cael ei chwarae yw'r ffordd y mae'n cael ei chwarae.
24:36Ac mae'n rhaid i ni edrych ar hynny.
24:57Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n mynd i gael cyfle dros hynny.
24:58Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n mynd i gael cyfle dros hynny.
24:59Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n mynd i gael cyfle dros hynny.
25:00Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n mynd i gael cyfle dros hynny.
25:01Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n mynd i gael cyfle dros hynny.
25:03Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n mynd i gael cyfle dros hynny.
25:04Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n mynd i gael cyfle dros hynny.
25:05Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n mynd i g
25:10Hwyl.
25:15Hwyl.
25:21Hwyl.
25:30Hwyl.
25:36Rydyn ni wedi mynd ymlaen i weithio ar y tref.
25:43Rydyn ni wedi mynd â nhw ac rwy'n meddwl ein bod ni wedi cael hynny'n dda iawn.
25:47Rydw i'n cofio'r cyfrifoedd a'r ymwybyddiaeth ac ati.
25:49Roedd hynny'n dda iawn i ni.
25:50Roedd y Prif Weinidog wedi'i ddweud yn gyflym.
25:52Roedden ni wedi cael bwyd â nhw.
25:52Roedd yna llawer o ffyrdd yn y bar.
26:02Nid oes unrhyw ffordd i gael eich cymryd cymryd.
26:09Mae hynny'n amlwg.
26:10Mae hynny'n cymryd cymryd.
26:10Mae hynny'n amlwg.
26:29Mae hynny'n amlwg.
26:29Mae hynny'n amlwg.
26:30Mae hynny'n amlwg.
26:30Mae hynny'n amlwg.
26:42Yn ystod y diwrnod yma,
27:13ac rwy'n gobeithio y byddaf yn llynu'r adnoddau.
27:41ac felly rydyn ni'n mynd ymlaen gyda'r ychydig bach o gwasanaeth bach yn yno nad ydyn nhw'n mynd i fynd i'w llwyddo drwy'r tŷ.
28:02Mae'n dal i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i
28:20Mae'n ymwneud â'r cyfnod yma.
28:45Mae'n ymwneud â'r cyfnod yma.
28:46Mae'n ymwneud â'r cyfnod yma.
28:47Mae'n ymwneud â'r cyfnod yma.
28:48Mae'n ymwneud â'r cyfnod yma.
28:52Diolch yn fawr.
29:34Mae'n bwysig iawn.
29:50Mae'n bwysig iawn.
29:56Mae'n bwysig iawn.
29:57Mae'n bwysig iawn.
30:03Mae'r cymdeithas wedi cael ei gyflawni.
30:25Mae'r cymdeithas wedi cael ei gyflawni.
30:26Mae'r cymdeithas wedi cael ei gyflawni.
30:30Mae'r cymdeithas wedi cael ei gyflawni.
30:39Yn amlwg, yr hyn rydych chi'n ei ddweud yw, mewn gwirionedd, nad yw'r Llywodraeth yn gwneud unrhyw beth arall.
30:51Mae'n rhaid i'r swan ddewis beth yw wedi cael ei wneud.
30:54Yn fawr, mae'n rhaid i'r swan ddewis beth yw wedi cael ei wneud.
30:55Mae'n rhaid i'r swan ddewis beth yw wedi cael ei wneud.
30:57Mae'n rhaid i'r swan ddewis beth yw wedi cael ei wneud.
31:03Ac felly, os yw'r cas yn mynd i'r penod, ac mae'r Llywodraeth wedi cael ei dynnu gan y Llywodraeth Cymru, sydd wedi cael ei dynnu, mae'n anodd iawn iawn oherwydd y gwleidyddiaeth.
31:26Rwy'n mynd i ddweud gwirioneddau gwleidyddol, ond byddaf yn siarad am yr ymarfer.
31:28Rwy'n meddwl, ar yr ymarfer, dydyn ni ddim yn gweithio â'r Llywodraeth Cymru.
31:29Ond dyna'r ffordd y byddai'n mynd i fod yn gwleidyddol, rwy'n credu.
31:32Os allwch chi edrych ar y sifadau a'r pethau yma, mae'r pethau yma'n bwysig iawn.
31:49Nawr mae rhywbeth arall yn dod ymlaen, ac rydyn ni wedi sgwrsio amdano.
31:51Mae'n rhaid i ni wybod hefyd, ynddynt yn y golygfeydd,
32:05Mae'r cyfnod hwnnw'n gweithio'n fwy effeithiol na'r cyfnod hwnnw.
32:18Mae'r cyfnod hwnnw'n gweithiol na'r cyfnod hwnnw.
32:19Mae'r cyfnod hwnnw'n gweithiol na'r cyfnod hwnnw.
32:50Yn ystod y cyfnod, fe wnaeth gweithredu i'r cymuned.
33:03Yn ystod y cyfnod, fe wnaeth gweithredu i'r cymuned.
33:06Yn ystod y cyfnod, fe wnaeth gweithredu i'r cymuned.
33:07Fe wnaeth gweithredu i'r cymuned.
33:14Yn ymwneud â'r ffordd y byddaf yn ymwneud â'r ffordd y byddaf yn ymwneud â'r
33:47Rydyn ni ddim yn gallu gwneud yr hyn sy'n iawn, unwaith y byddwch chi'n gwneud hynny.
34:09Yn un lefel, mae hynny'n rhaid i ni wneud hynny.
34:09Mae hynny'n rhaid i mi wneud hynny.
34:10Mae hynny'n rhaid i mi wneud hynny.
34:11Mae hynny'n rhaid i mi wneud hynny.
34:12Mae hynny'n rhaid i mi wneud hynny.
34:12Mae hynny'n rhaid i mi wneud hynny.
34:13Mae hynny'n rhaid i mi wneud hynny.
34:19A'i ddiwedd yw, yn ymwneud â'r Prif Weinidog, mae'n ymwybodol nad yw'n cynnig cyfeiriadau i ddynion.
34:37Yn y ffaith, byddai hynny'n ymwneud â'r canlyniad sylfaenol ar gyfer yr adroddiad newydd.
34:38Mae gennych chi... Mae gennych chi... Mae gennych chi... Mae gennych chi...
34:46Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, oherwydd mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny.
35:05Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny.
35:06Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny.
35:06Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny.
35:34Mae penderfyniadau gwasanaethol wedi cael ei wneud dros 3 neu 5 mlynedd, ac mae llawer o broblemau yn ymwneud â hynny.
35:54Y peth cyntaf yw'r cwestiynau o'r Mexicain, sydd wedi cael eu cyflwyno i'r llaw, yn hytrach na'r sefyllfa ddiwethaf.
36:00Ac mae gennych chi rhai sylwadau, John, am sut mae'r Mexicwyr yn teimlo am hyn?
36:17Mae'r Mexicwyr yn annibynnol i busni, ac mae Curtis Graves, sy'n arweinydd gwleidyddiaeth Negros o Houston, wedi dod allan yn fawr o ran busni, felly mae gennych chi un o'r arweinyddiaid Negros sy'n cymryd rhan i busni.
36:25Pan fyddwch chi'n mynd i Dallas, rydych chi'n gweld y tec-tec yma yn Dallas nawr.
36:40Mae'r arweinyddiaeth yr arweinyddiaeth yn dweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud wrth i chi
36:47sefydliadau anodd ar gyfer y rheswm hwn.
37:01Yn gyntaf, nid yw Robert Judd yn cael cyflawni gyda'i man, oherwydd mae gweithwyr wedi cael cyflwyniadau ac nid maen nhw'n cael desegregaeth.
37:05A'r cysylltiad ail gyda nhw yw bod gennych chi'r
37:08Ac rwy'n credu y gall Elliot siarad gwell am hyn oherwydd rydw i wedi'i ddweud yn y llall.
37:26Ond nawr, nid yw unrhyw un yn mynd i desegregu'u ysgolion.
37:28Maen nhw'n mynd i gael ymweld.
37:28Maen nhw wedi parhau i siarad â phobl.
37:30Wel, o safbwynt y leol, rydych chi'n iawn, John.
37:31Ond rwy'n edrych arno o safbwynt gwleidyddol nawr.
37:32Os na fyddwch chi'n ymddygiad, ac yn ystod y cyfrifiad cyhoeddus,
37:40Mae'r awdurdod wedi gwneud hynny.
38:04Mae'r awdurdod wedi gwneud hynny.
38:07Mae'r awdurdod wedi gwneud hynny.
38:08Mae'r awdurdod wedi gwneud hynny.
38:10Mae ymddygiad sydd wedi cael ei ddatblygu yng Nghymru, a hwnnw yw nad yw Llywodraeth Cenedlaethol yn cynnig cynllun penodol.
38:28Mae pob hyn y mae Llywodraeth Cenedlaethol eisiau ei wneud yw cymryd rhan gyda SMAWN.
38:32Felly mae ymddygiad sydd wedi cael ei gyflawni ar ymddygiad hwnnw.
38:34Dydw i ddim yn dweud bod y cynllun hwn yn fwy na ddyluniad o'r hyn a allai ei wneud.
38:49Rwy'n gwybod sut mae hyn yn dod ymlaen.
38:51Nid yw'n bob amser yn dod ymlaen fel hynny, ond gallai'r amgylch fod wedi'i gymryd ar y cwestiwn sylweddol hwn, bod y gwasanaethau ymweld â'r hyn a wnaeth yn ei wneud gan Brifysgol Roberts ddim yn cyflawni â penderfyniadau Swan.
38:58Mae'r swan yn gwneud penderfyniadau.
39:00Mae'r swan yn gwneud penderfyniadau.
39:00Mae'r swan yn gwneud penderfyniadau.
39:02Mae'r swan yn gwneud penderfyniadau.
39:02Mae'
39:04Dwi ddim yn deall hynny'n well i unrhyw un.
39:09Dwi'n deall hynny'n well i unrhyw un.
39:21Dwi ddim yn deall hynny'n well i unrhyw un.
39:26Dwi ddim yn deall hynny'n well i unrhyw un.
39:29Mae'n iawn.
39:47Mae'n iawn.
39:58Mae'n iawn.
39:59ac wedi cael ei gyflawni gyda'r adnoddau cyflawni yn awgrymu rhyw fath o ddiddordeb.
40:17Ac roedd y cyflawniadau llwyddiannus hyn wedi cael eu cyflawni a oedd wedi cael eu cyflawni neu wedi cael eu cyflawni gan ddiogelwch.
40:22Yna ddodd penderfyniadau Charles Mecklenburg i lawr.
40:234 o'r cyfarfodydd llwyddiannus sydd wedi cael eu cyflawni rhwng ddiogelwch H.E.W.
40:25a phobl
40:26a'r ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr ysgrifennwyr
40:56a chyflwyno ar gyfer wythnos arall.
41:18Roedd yn cael ei gyflawni o 14 Maes, ac yn y wythnos ymgynghori, roedden ni wedi cyflwyno'r sefyllfa a'r Cynulliad Cynulliad, Ed Morgan, a gweithio ar y cynllun, a gweithio ar y llythyr i'r adran ysgol, a oedd yn cael ei gweithio ar ddiwrnod diwrnod, cyn i ni gael cyfarfod â'r adran ysgol.
41:28ym mis Ionawr, pan wnaeth y Prif Weinidog ddweud y byddwn ni wedi cydweithio â'i gilydd.
41:49Roedden ni wedi cael cysylltiad â'r Pwyllgor Ysgol ac rwyf wedi siarad â nhw ers hynny, ond roedden ni, roedd yn penderfyniad amdanyn nhw ar rhan o'r Gweinidog Gweinidog, Cynulliad Cenedlaethol, Gweinidog Cymdeithasol ac ATW, bod ni ddim yn gallu cydweithio â'r Pwyllgor Ysgol cyn i ni gael
41:57y byddwn ni'n ymgysylltu â'r Cwr ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli, ar ôl ei reoli,
42:22Mae'n gwybod hynny'n dda iawn.
42:40Mae'r Prif Weinidog ysgrifennol a'r Prif Weinidog y Cymdeithas Ddemocraethol wedi ysgrifennu at un o'n bobl, ond nid yw'r cyfrifiadwr wedi cael ei gael yn y cyfarfod.
42:45Ydych chi'n gweld hynny?
42:46Ydych chi'n gweld hynny?
42:46Ydych chi'n gweld hynny?
42:47Ydych chi'n gweld hynny?
42:47Ydych chi'n gweld hynny?
42:48Ydych chi'n gweld hynny?
42:48Ydych chi'n gweld hynny?
42:50Ydych chi'n gweld hynny?
42:50Ydych chi'n gweld hynny?
42:51Ydych chi'n gweld hynny?
42:51Ydych chi'n gweld hynny
42:52yw John, y Prif Weinidog, ac mae nifer ohonyn nhw wedi rhannu negosiadau gyda ni yn ymdrech i gyflawni cynllun cyhoeddus.
43:09Rydyn ni hefyd wedi cymryd rhan o'r sefydliadau eu hunain gyda'r rhai rydyn ni'n ceisio negosiadu'r cynllun sy'n cael ei ddefnyddio gyda Llywodraeth Cymru.
43:16Nawr, nid oeddem ni.
43:17Nid oeddem ni wedi codi'r Cynulliad Cymru.
43:19Mae'r problem mewn gwirionedd
43:21Beth yw'n mynd i arwain y problem mwy rhwng nawr a Ffwrdd 1972?
43:37Ar y cyd, yn cymryd y sefyllfa trwy'r amser a'r nifer o wledydd yn ymwneud â hyn, mae'n ein gweld ein bod ni'n gallu creu gwybodaeth yn fwy gwbl o'r penderfyniadau y mae'r Llywodraeth yn ei angen.
43:50i ddod â rhyw fath o ymgymryd â'r peth hwn.
44:02Byddai'r mwyaf o'r cyfan y byddwn ni wedi llwyddo i gael y sefyllfa o'n ôl i ni.
44:04Os yw'r penderfyniad yma'n cael ei wneud,
44:06Mae'n mynd i fod yn ymwneud â hynny.
44:23Mae llawer o wledydd, sy'n gwneud adolygiadau ar ôl ymgysylltu gyda ni, yn rhaid iddyn nhw cael eu trafod gan rywun.
44:29Bydd rhywun yn dod i mewn a'i ddweud, nid ydym yn gallu gwerthfawrogi'r gofynion y mae'r Llywodraeth yn eu penderfynu amdanynt.
44:32Bydd gennym adolygiad sy'n gallu bod yn
44:33Diolch yn fawr iawn.
44:55Rwy'n credu ein bod ni'n rhaid i ni ymgymryd, yn y penodol am y rheswm hwn oherwydd y pwysigrwydd o'r sefyllfa drwy gydol y Sŵn.
45:05Rydyn ni wedi bod yn mynd ymlaen.
45:13Roedd y penderfyniad o'r Austin wedi cael ychydig o ddau sylweddol yn Austin.
45:21Mae wedi cael effeithiau da arall o ran y gwirionedd o bwrdd ysgol i ddelio gyda ni.
45:28Nawr, gallwch chi sgwrsio am sgolwch y cynllun.
45:30Roedden ni'n eithaf yn barod i'w wneud.
45:31Yn ystod hyn, fel aelod o'r Penderfyniad Cymru,
45:34byddwn i'n annog y rhanbarthau i'w wneud, ond nid y byddai'r Llywodraeth ysgol yn ystyried unrhyw wahanol.
45:48Yn amlwg, yn amlwg, yn amlwg, yn amlwg, yn amlwg, yn amlwg, yn amlwg, yn amlwg, yn amlwg, yn amlwg, yn amlwg, yn amlwg.
45:51o'r plant, felly doeddent ddim eisiau siarad am hynny.
45:59Fel mae John yn dweud, does dim rhaid i'r amgylch fod yn amgylch ar gyfer y gwirioneddau o'r cynllun sydd wedi'i arwain gan H.E.W.
46:06ar gyfer y Llywodraeth yn dweud, chi'n gwybod, rhoi'r cynllun i ni.
46:10Mae'n rhaid iddo fod yn amgylcheddol i'r cyflwyniad, yn ymwneud dim ond â'r prifysgol y byddai'r awdurdod a'r cynllun Austin ei hun yn anodd.
46:29Mae'r ysbrydoliad o'r sefyllfa, Brifysgol, yn cael ei ysbrydoli gan y ffaith bod y cynllun, yn enwedig, yn Austin, yn gofyn am, ac yn ymwneud â,
46:3812 i 18 o gyfnod o flwyddyn, gan blant Cymraeg a phlant Cymraeg gyda'i gilydd i wneud ychydig o gynhyrchiadau artistig a chyfnodau.
47:04Nawr, rydych chi'n gwybod, beth bynnag yw'r hyn y bydden nhw'n ymwybodol o'r gradd i'r rhai sy'n nincontigus, rhai sy'n ysgrifennu, rhai sy'n ymgyrchu ac ati, rhai sy'n ymgyrchu
47:08Mae'r Cwrdd Gwladol wedi dweud ei fod yn rhaid i'w ddefnyddio lle nad ydynt yn cael eu defnyddio cymaint yn yr adnoddau rydyn ni'n eu cymryd.
47:33Ond mae'n glir iawn o'r llaw fod y math hwn o ymweldiaeth periodeol ddim yn cwrdd â'r gofynion o'r penderfyniad.
47:35Rwy'n credu y byddwn ni'n edrych yn edrych yn dda iawn.
47:36Felly, os nad ydym ni'n edrych yn dda iawn, byddai yna, rwy'n credu,
47:39ac yn ymwneud â'r canlyniadau sy'n creu'r sefyllfa yn gyffredinol, gallai dim ond cael y effaith o gyflawni a chyflawni a chreu amdanyn nhw.
47:59Rydych chi'n gweld Austin yw'r canolbwynt nerfol yng Nghymru ac mae Austin wedi cael ei gynnal ar gyfer pob sefydliad.
48:03Felly, rydych chi'n gweld, mae hynny'n ar draws y llaw, o gwmpas y sefydliad, nid dim ond Austin.
48:06Nawr, popeth rydych chi'n ei ddweud yn wir,
48:08Ond yr hyn rydw i'n ei ddweud yw bod y cwestiwn ychwanegol yma yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu bod yn golygu
48:30Ac hefyd, efallai y byddwch chi'n disgwyl â mi ar hyn o bryd, ond rwyf wedi siarad â llawer o bobl.
48:51Mae yna rhai sydd wedi cael cysylltiad â rhywfaint o broffesiynnau ECW, ac mae llawer ohonyn nhw nad ydyn nhw'n gallu penderfynu'n fwy am yr adnoddau gwleidyddol.
48:55Yn wir, roedden nhw'n hoffi gweld chi'n sylweddol.
48:56Ac roedd hynny'n digwydd drwyddiant yr Europosi.
48:57Nid yw hynny'n dweud ECW, nid yw hynny'n dweud ECW.
48:58Mae hynny'n digwydd drwyddiant yr Europosi.
49:00Felly rydych chi wedi cael llawer o burofraffwyr sy'n ddiddorol i'ch gwblhau eich llyfrau y tu allan.
49:14John, mae'r ffaith yw ein bod ni wedi cael gwahanol gwleidyddion yn ystod y bwrdd ysgol a'r gyfrif.
49:19Dyna'r hyn sydd wedi dod yn ôl.
49:20Wel, nid yw'r gwleidyddion yn ystod y bwrdd ysgol, ond efallai yw'r cyhoedd cyhoeddus.
49:21O, ie.
49:21Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud y gwirioneddol y byddai'n bosibl bod yn gwneud hynny i mi.
49:24Nawr, mae hyn yn effeithio arna i'n llaw, ond yn effeithio arnoch yn llawer llai, gan fy mod i'n gallu cyrraedd hwnnw'n dda iawn, ac mae hynny'n mynd i fy llywodraeth, ond rydych chi'n sylweddol â hynny.
49:45Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud y cwestiwn.
49:52Mae hynny wedi llwyddo, fel rydych chi'n ei ddweud.
50:12Dwi ddim yn gweld sut y gallwch ddychmygu'r problemau yma yng Nghymru.
50:13Yr unig rhan yw hyn.
50:21Diolch yn fawr iawn.
50:50Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
51:00Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
51:01Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
51:09Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
51:10Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
51:17yn ymddygiad i gael nhw i wneud rhywfaint o hynny.
51:32Ydych chi'n gwybod, maen nhw'n dweud wrthym, wel, dyna'r hyn rydyn ni'n ei wneud.
51:33Ydych chi'n dweud, wel, rydyn ni'n gwneud hynny i fynd ymlaen.
51:35Ydych chi'n dweud, wel, rydyn ni'n gwneud hynny i fynd ymlaen.
51:37ac mae'n llwyddo'r effaith rhaglenni ar ein gallu i gael y sefyllfaoedd hwnnw'n gwerthfawrog.
51:52Felly beth yw'r cwestiwn?
51:54Beth yw'r peth gyda hynny?
51:56Wel, y peth gyda hynny yw bod y sefyllfa wedi dod i'w enw, y sefyllfa yw'r un lle mae ein penderfyniad yn hollbwysig iawn, ac mae llawer o'r casau hyn yn cael eu llwyddo.
52:02mae'r sefyllfa'n dod yn fwy agos ac yn amlwg.
52:19Rwy'n credu, o ran fy nghymdeithas i gyda'r cymdeithasau cymdeithasol rydyn ni wedi'u gynnwys drwy gydol y dde.
52:25Mae'r hyn y maen nhw angen mwy ar hyn o bryd yn mor glir ac yn deall yn bosibl yr hyn y mae'r Llywodraeth yn ei angen.
52:32os na fyddwn ni'n gwneud y Prifysgol yn ffawr, hyd yn oed yn y cyfnodau gwleidyddol gorau, i allu bod sefyllfa fel hyn yn ffester fel y bydd, os na fyddwn ni'n ceisio'i llwyddo.
52:54Wel, rwy'n gwybod, rwy'n gwybod, rwy'n gwybod, rwy'n gwybod, rwy'n gwybod, rwy'n gwybod.
53:02Rwyf wedi cael fy nghymryd gyda fy nghymryd.
53:20Ydych chi'n gweld?
53:21Roedd Texas wedi symud ar y cyflawniad yn gyntaf i'r rhan fwyaf ohonynt.
53:23Ac roeddwn i'n siarad gyda Richard Fletcher yn 1954.
53:29Dyma'r lle rydych chi'n mynd i... Yn fawr, mae'r adnoddau sy'n cael eu cymryd yng nghymru'n debyg.
53:51Ond mae'r adnoddau peryglwyr... Yn ôl, mae'r adnoddau cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y cymryd y
53:59Os ydych chi'n ymchwilio'r llyfrau, neu'r alliadau o'r ddiweddar yma, mae'r rheswm cyffredin yn llwyddo'n fwy sylfaenol yng nghymru.
54:19Ac mae hynny'n golygu rhywbeth sy'n rhaid i chi ei gyfrifo.
54:20Felly, dwi'n credu na fyddai'n syniad da iawn i chi gael eich alliadau yng Nghymru gyda'ch gilydd.
54:25Rwy'n argymell yr un math o sesiwn rydych chi'n ei gael yma.
54:26Mae'n rhaid i chi feddwl amdanyn nhw ychydig flynedd neu ddwy yn ôl, ac roeddwn i'n cofio'r peth mwyaf dwi wedi gweld y Prif Weinidog yn ystod hynny yn fy mhrofiad.
54:50Ond, yn siarad am yr arwain gwleidyddol, roeddwn i'n meddwl y byddai'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny.
54:52Dwi'n dweud hynny.
54:55Dwi'n dweud hynny.
54:55Dwi'n dweud hynny.
54:55Dwi'n dweud hynny.
54:56Dwi'n dweud hynny.
54:57Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud y gwir.
55:23Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud y gwir.
55:24Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud y gwir.
55:24Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud y gwir.
55:26Roedd Ysaw yn dechrau mynd ymlaen i'r rhan gyda'r Rheoleiddio, oherwydd roedden nhw'n meddwl bod y ddemograffiaid yn eu defnyddio, ac roedd Ysaw bob amser yn bwysig.
55:42Roedden ni'n gweithio gyda Dixie, ac roedd yn dweud y byddai'r Rheoleiddio'n hapus i ddod o hyd i'r rhan gyda'i gilydd.
55:45Ac nawr mae Ysaw'n cwrdd â hwnnw.
55:46Yn ymwneud â peth y mae'r Llywodraeth yn gwneud y penderfyniad,
55:47Fe wnaethon nhw ddweud, wel, mae'n llawer gwaethaf i'r Rheoleiddwyr, ond nid i'r Demograffiaid.
56:10Fe wnaethon nhw ddweud, rydyn ni'n trafod pobl ac rydyn ni ddim.
56:11Maen nhw'n darllen y ffigurau sy'n dweud mai'r systemau ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol ysgol y
56:18Ac felly dyma'r dyn sy'n gwneud hyn nawr, rydych chi'n gwneud hynny.
56:33Ond os ydych chi'n gwneud hynny, rwy'n gobeithio y byddai'r dyn sy'n gwneud hynny ychydig mwy yn haws am hynny.
56:36Ond mae'n gwybod nad yw'n gallu gwneud hynny.
56:37Felly byddai hynny'n gwneud hynny.
56:37Felly byddai hynny'n gwneud hynny.
56:55Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud y gwir.
57:16Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud y gwir.
57:22Mae'n rhaid i chi dweud y gwir.
57:22Mae'n rhaid i chi dweud y gwir.
57:30Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n gwneud hynny'n dda.
58:04Wel, mae'n rhoi sicrwydd i mi.
58:21Iawn.
58:21Rwyf wedi siarad â chi am hyn yn ddiweddar, ond rwyf wedi siarad â chi am hyn yn ddiweddar.
58:23Iawn.
58:23Rwy'n siarad â chi am hyn yn ddiweddar, ond rwy'n siarad â chi am hyn yn ddiweddar, ond rwy'n siarad â chi am hyn yn ddiweddar, ond rwy'n siarad â chi am hyn yn ddiweddar, ond rwy'n siarad â chi am hyn yn ddiweddar, ond rwy'n siarad â chi am hyn yn ddiweddar, ond rwy'n siarad â chi am hyn yn ddiweddar, ond rwy'n siarad â chi am hyn yn ddiweddar, ond rwy'n si
58:56Mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n, mae'n,
59:23gwasgaru'r peth hwn y flwyddyn nesaf i'w gynnal yn ôl y flwyddyn nesaf.
59:42Yn fawr, yn fawr iawn.
59:44Maen nhw'n cytuno â'r cynlluniau yng Nghymru a Birmingham ac ati, ac nid ydynt yn cymryd gweithredu lle mae cynllunwyr yng nghymru yn ei ddweud y gallwn ddewis y peth hwn yn ôl y flwyddyn nesaf.
59:48Ie, mae hynny'n... Mae'n rhaid i ni feddwl yn sylweddol
59:50Mae'n rhaid i mi ddatganfod sut i'w sefydlu, mewn gwirionedd.
1:00:10Sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w... sut i'w...
1:00:19Roeddwn i'n dweud, roedden ni'n cael, roedden ni'n cael, yn Austin, gan y cyfathrebu hwn o bwrdd ysgol.
1:00:40Roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'n dweud, roeddwn i'
1:00:48yr holl beth rydyn ni'n gallu ei wneud yn y cymunedau mwyaf yma, wrth gwrs, maen nhw'n cymunedau mwyaf sy'n effeithiol, mae'n siarad am hynny, i gael y partïau i roi'n effeithiol gynllun sy'n dweud y gwirioneddol fod yn llwyddiant yn cael ei gyflawni mewn litigaeth yn 1972.
1:01:16y byddwn ni'n gweithredu'n well.
1:01:29A'r peth sy'n fy anhygoel, er mwyn cyflawni'r pwynt, yw'r ffaith bod llwyddiant yn cael llawer o sefyllfaoedd sy'n eithaf anhygoel.
1:01:40Rwy'n mynd i wneud hynny ymhellach.
1:01:41Y cysylltiad rydyn ni'n gweithio ati yw bod y NAACP a'r rhai eraill yn dod ymlaen y flwyddyn nesaf.
1:01:45rydyn ni'n cael cynlluniau cyfrifol sy'n edrych fel y gallan nhw gyflawni gyda SWAN.
1:02:00Yna byddwn ni ar y llwybr arall, byddwn ni'n gwneud y cynlluniau hynny tuag at ddiffyg y NAACP.
1:02:02Mae hynny'n dda.
1:02:02Rwy'n dweud yw, rwy'n credu ei fod yn gweithio, ond os ydych chi'n mynd i'r peth lle rydych chi'n ystyried,
1:02:05ar gyfweliad gwirioneddol.
1:02:22Nid oes unrhyw ffordd y gallwch ddewis hynny mewn lle fel Cymru.
1:02:24Rwy'n cytuno eich bod chi'n hollbwysig.
1:02:25Rwy'n cytuno eich bod chi'n hollbwysig.
1:02:26Rwy'n cytuno eich bod chi'n hollbwysig.
1:02:27Rwy'n cytuno eich bod chi'n hollbwysig.
1:02:28Rwy'n cytuno eich bod chi'n hollbwysig.
1:02:29Rwy'n cytuno eich bod chi'n hollbwysig.
1:02:30Rwy'n cytuno eich bod chi'n hollbwysig.
1:02:30Rwy'n cytuno eich bod chi'n hollbwysig.
1:02:31Rwy'n cytuno eich bod chi'n hollbwysig.
1:02:32Rwy'n cytuno eich bod chi'
1:02:34Rydw i ddim yn meddwl y byddwch chi'n gwneud hynny i'r llaw, ond rydw i'n ceisio gwneud hynny i'ch tu ôl.
1:02:47Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i. Nid ydw i.
1:03:02Rydyn ni ddim yn ystyried bod y blynyddoedd y cynllun yn cael ei gyflawni.
1:03:23Mae'r broblem yn Austin, ac mae'n ei fodlon, yw, os ydych chi, ac yma rydyn ni'n rhoi'r hyn sydd wedi'i wneud i'r ysgol, oherwydd mae'r ysgol wedi dod i'r cofnod, ac mae'n rhaid i'r Prif Weinidog ddatblygu'r sefydliadau.
1:03:28Y broblem rydych chi'n mynd i'w wneud yw lle rydych chi'n cael
1:03:32ac y penderfyniad y mae'r Cynulliad Cymru yn ei ddweud yw, er bod y flwyddyn diwethaf yn gallu a oedd yn rhaid i'r holl gymdeithasau
1:04:02Mae'n rhaid i chi edrych ar y sefyllfa hwnnw eto, gan ystyried mai nawr, mae'n rhaid i chi ddefnyddio, neu mae'n rhaid i chi ddefnyddio, rhywfaint o gyfansoddiadau nid-continuol, mae hynny'n golygu croesglu.
1:04:27Mae'n rhaid i chi ddefnyddio'r hanner o'r plant sydd yn y gradd 6 yma, a'r hanner o'r plant sydd yn y gradd 6 yna, a chyfeirio'r rhain.
1:04:32ac i ddefnyddio'r trafnidiaeth sy'n rhaid i ni gyflawni hynny hyd at y pwynt lle byddai hynny'n cael ei wneud yn ymddygiadol.
1:04:42Iawn.
1:04:43Felly rydych chi'n mynd yn ôl i'r sefyllfa honno ac yn dweud ein bod ni'n edrych arno eto nawr.
1:05:02Os ydych chi, mewn ystod Austin, y rheswm pam bod y cynllun wedi'i gyflawni yn ystod y cyflawniadau creadigol, os nad ydych chi, os nad ydych chi'n cymryd y plentyn go iawn a'i symud yn unigol drwy'r distryd, hyd at y pwynt lle mae'r cyflawniadau'n rhy ddwy.
1:05:11ym mhroed diwethaf.
1:05:17Yr hyn rydych chi'n ei wneud yw gwneud ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu y
1:05:40Ac y cwestiwn yw, beth fyddwch chi'n ei wneud yna?
1:05:49Ac mae gennych chi hefyd y cwmplaint ar rhan o'r rhain o'r 25% o blant Cymraeg sydd ar gael i fynd i'r ysgol hwnnw.
1:05:58Pam mae'n rhaid i'n plant Cymraeg fynd i'r ysgol Cymraeg mawr pan mae'r plant Cymraeg eraill yn mynd i'r ysgol Cymraeg mawr sydd ychwanegol yn yr adran.
1:06:03Ac felly, er mwyn cymryd y gweithgaredd ychwanegol yna o elusenu'r ychydig fawr o'r ysgolion gwledig hyn, dim ond cymaint o gwasanaeth ychwanegol o'r hyn sy'n cael ei wneud yn hytrach na'r hyn sy'n cael ei wneud arall.
1:06:26Roedden ni'n cynllunio, ac roedd hynny'n cael ei drafod yn anghywir, yn cael ei drafod gyda staff Morgan a Whitehouse ac ati, ac wedi'i gyflwyno'n dda, y byddwn ni'n gallu cymryd y gweithgaredd ychwanegol hyn.
1:06:32Nawr, fel y dywedodd John, byddwn ni wedi bod yn barod i ddechrau cydweithio gyda chyfrifoldeb y Llywodraeth i negosiad rhywbeth llai.
1:06:49Roedden ni'n dechrau i ddangos, fel y dywedais i, pam roedden ni'n meddwl y byddai'r sefyllfa yn fwy stafell ac yn dda i blant Cymru ac i...
1:06:58y bydd plant Cymraeg yn fwy neu'n rhyfeddol na phosib mewn rhai achosion eraill.
1:07:19Ac ni allwn wneud hynny oherwydd y charakter o'r cyfathrebu geograidd, oherwydd y gwahaniaethau ac ati.
1:07:22Ond nid ydym yn dechrau gyda'r bwysigrwydd y mae gennym i gyflawni cyfathrebu gwaith.
1:07:27Mae'n rhaid i chi ddod yma, os ydych chi gyda rai plentyn arall.
1:07:45Dyma un plentyn Cymraeg sy'n cael ei ddweud yn yr ardal ac yn mynd i'r ysgol yn Mary's House, ac un arall sy'n rhaid iddo fynd drwyddi.
1:07:49Dyma'r ardal bwysig yma.
1:07:50Na cwestiwn, ond... Nid yw'r Plentyn yn eisiau gadael yn unrhyw le.
1:07:51Os yw unrhyw un yn meddwl bod hynny'n anghywir, rydyn ni wedi'i gynllunio, rydyn ni wedi'i gynllunio â'r Prifysgol Cymraeg yn fy mhobledd, ac wedi rhoi'r plentyn Cymraeg i'r tri Prifysg
1:07:56Ac roedd y gwleidydd gwleidydd gwleidydd yn gweithio ar gyfansoddiad gwleidydd.
1:08:14Roedd hynny'n ymwneud â'r ffans.
1:08:15Roedd hynny'n eu canolbwyntio ar rywbeth roedden nhw'n canolbwyntio ar, rhywbeth roedden nhw'n croesawu.
1:08:17Roedd hynny'n ymwneud â'r gwleidydd gwleidydd yn mynd i lawr i'r canolbwynt cymdeithasol o'r gymuned.
1:08:20Ac roedd yr hyfforddwyr gwleidydd a'r ysgolion gwleidydd yn fwynhau cael y chwaraewyr gwleidydd gwleidydd.
1:08:23Rydych chi'n iawn.
1:08:23Rydych chi'n iawn, ond mae'r sefyll
1:08:26Mae'r ffordd yr ydym wedi'i gweithio'n llawn, fel mae'r adroddiadau ni wedi'u dangos, yn ddiweddar, yn ôl ym mis Ionawr, wedi bod yn fwy sylweddol ac yn dweud wrthym, hyd yn oed yn y ffordd y byddwn i wedi'i ddweud yn ôl.
1:08:51Yn ystod y ffordd y byddwn i wedi'i ddweud yn y ffordd y byddwn i wedi'i ddweud yn y ffordd y byddwn i wedi'i ddweud yn y ffordd y byddwn i wedi'i ddweud.
1:09:01Felly mae'r ffaith yw bod hyn yn gweithredu'n fwy cyffredinol ynghylch yr hyn a wnaeth hi 150 mlynedd yn ôl.
1:09:20Yn gyntaf, gallwn ddweud hynny, ar ôl edrych ar eich sefyllfa, rydych chi'n gallu ysgrifennu eich cymeriad.
1:09:33Mae'n rhaid i chi wneud hynny.
1:09:51Mae'n rhaid i chi wneud hynny.
1:09:51Ac ar hyn o bryd, dwi'n hollbwysig i'r holl hyn.
1:09:52Dwi'n ymddygiad, felly dwi'n ymwneud â'r bus.
1:09:54Dwi'n ymwneud â'r Llywodraeth.
1:09:54Dwi'n ymddygiad â'r ddynion cyntaf.
1:10:22Rwy'n teimlo bod hyn yn un o'r pethau sy'n bwysig iawn.
1:10:43Rwy'n meddwl y byddaf yn meddwl am y cwestiwn.
1:10:44Efallai y byddaf yn cael ateb arall.
1:10:45Nid yn y ffordd hon.
1:10:45Efallai nad ydw i'n cael unrhyw beth yn ymwneud â hyn, ond rwy'n meddwl am y pethau sy'n ymwneud â hyn yma.
1:10:48Ond mae'r teimloedd i mi wedi bod yn dda iawn.
1:10:48Rwy'n meddwl eu bod yn...
1:11:06ac yn dda iawn i'w ddweud yn bwysig, ond nid yw'r problem, wrth gwrs, unrhyw ddemograff, unrhyw un ohonyn nhw, mae'n rhaid i'w ddweud yn ffwrdd, ond mae'r problem yn y sefyllfa, oherwydd mae'r sefyllfa wedi cael trwyddiadau'n dda iawn i'w ddweud yn dda iawn yn Alabama, ond mae hyn yn y math o beth sy'n gwneud ei fod yn dda iawn i'w ddweud, mae'n bwysig i'w ddweud.
1:11:36ac roedd e'n hoffi ei gael, ac rydyn ni'n dod ymlaen.
1:11:54Ac roedd e'n dweud hynny.
1:11:56Ac roedd e'n dweud hynny.
1:11:56Ac roedd e'n dweud hynny.
1:11:57Ac roedd e'n dweud hynny.
1:11:57Ac roedd e'n dweud hynny.
1:12:18Mae hynny'n rhywbeth, rhywbeth sy'n rhaid i mi ddweud wrth fy mod i. Dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl, dwi'n meddwl
1:12:45Rydyn ni wedi siarad ymlaen yma o'r ffordd gorau o ffostro'r peth hwn heb ddod i'r pwynt lle rydyn ni'n annog ATW.
1:13:01Mae hynny'n iawn.
1:13:03Mae hynny'n bwysig iawn.
1:13:06Mae hynny'n bwysig iawn.
1:13:06Mae hynny'n bwysig iawn.
1:13:07Mae hynny'n bwysig iawn.
1:13:16Mae'n rhaid i ni wneud hynny.
1:13:41A, fel rwy'n dweud, lle mae'r pethau eraill wedi dod i'w ddweud yn y llyfrgell, mae'r llywodraethau a'r dyfodol wedi cael eu cyd-destun ac rwy'n meddwl eu bod wedi cael eu cyd-destun, oherwydd rwyf wedi gweld rhai ohonynt, i'w cymryd ar y basis o...
1:13:56Mae HEW yn cynnig un o 20 o'r pwysigrwyddau sy'n gallu cael eu cynnig er mwyn cyfrannu'r penderfyniadau ac ymateb.
1:14:12Ond yr hyn rydyn ni'n ceisio ei wneud yw ymgysylltu â'r llawr.
1:14:14Nid ydym yn ceisio gwneud unrhyw beth ar yr adran ysgol.
1:14:15Yn ystod hynny, rydw i'n gallu gwneud hynny yn ôl.
1:14:18Nid ydym yn gallu gwneud hynny yn ôl.
1:14:21Nid ydym yn gallu gwneud hynny yn ôl.
1:14:23Nid ydym yn gallu gwneud hynny yn ôl.
1:14:24Nid ydym yn gallu gwneud hynny yn ôl.
1:14:25Nid ydym yn gallu gwneud hynny yn
1:14:26Mae hynny'n gwirioneddol iawn, John.
1:14:38Nid oedden nhw'n dweud y byddwch chi'n cael blynyddoedd i'w desegregio, ond fe wnaethon nhw dweud y byddwch chi'n cael blynyddoedd i'w desegregio.
1:14:50Yn ogystal â bod yn allweddol i wneud hynny.
1:14:52Yn ogystal â bod yn allweddol i wneud hynny.
1:14:53Yn ogystal â bod yn allweddol i wneud hynny.
1:14:54Yn ogystal â bod yn allweddol i wneud hynny.
1:15:00Rydyn ni'n ymwneud â'r ffaith y mae'r Llywodraeth yn ymwneud â'r Llywodraeth.
1:15:18Rydyn ni'n ymwneud â'r ffaith y mae'r Llywodraeth yn ymwneud â'r Llywodraeth.
1:15:24ac mae gennym ddyn dda, rydych chi'n gwybod, Dave Brown, rwy'n credu, yn fy swyddfa.
1:15:50Mae'n weinidog sy'n gweinidog yn amgylcheddau ychydig o ddwy wladau, gan gynnwys South Texas a South Carolina, ac mae'n arweinydd i ddwy wladau.
1:15:53Mae'n ddyn dda.
1:16:00Rydyn ni'n ceisio cael hyn ar draws, ond byddwn ni'n parhau i fynd ymlaen.
1:16:20Mae'n dda i ddweud y bydd ychydig yn fach yn cyflawni'r rhwydwaith cyhoeddus.
1:16:21Mae'r cyflawni'r rhwydwaith yn cyffredinol.
1:16:22Mae'r cyflawni'r rhwydwaith yn cyffredinol.
1:16:23Mae'r cyflawni'r rhwydwaith yn cyffredinol.
1:16:24Mae'r rhwydwaith yn cyffredinol.
1:16:25Mae'r rhwydwaith yn cyffredinol.
1:16:25Mae'r rhwydwaith yn cyffredinol.
1:16:26Mae'r rhwydwaith yn cyffredinol.
1:16:27Mae'r rhwydwaith yn cyffredinol.
1:16:27Mae'r rhwydwaith yn cy
1:16:28Mae'r unig prifysgol rydyn ni'n ei gael yn Jackson.
1:16:45Ac roedden ni'n gallu cyflawni mynd ymlaen â'r cynllun sy'n cael ei gynllunio gan y bwrdd ysgol yn Jackson.
1:16:51Roeddwn i wedi mynd i'r Clark Reed ym maes HGW y diwrnod diwethaf.
1:16:53Roedd hi'n gallu bod yn fwy cyffredinol o ran y ffaith ein bod ni'n mynd allan o'r Ysgol.
1:16:55Ac yn rhai o'r lleoedd eraill, mae niferau o leoedd sy'n cael eu llwyddo.
1:16:58Nid oes poblogaeth mawr yng Nghymru, felly roeddwn i'n teimlo bod hynny'n broblem.
1:17:15Mae'r broblem yn bennaf yn ddiddorol.
1:17:15Nid oes llawer o ddynion yn y gwaelodau yng Nghymru, ar gyfer enghraifft, yng Nghymru.
1:17:17Nid oes llawer o dynion yn y gwaelodau yng Nghymru.
1:17:19Nid oes llawer o dynion yn y gwaelodau yng Nghymru.
1:17:22Nid oes llawer o dynion yn y gwaelodau yng Nghymru.
1:17:24Nid oes llawer o dynion yn y gwaelodau yng Nghymru.
1:17:26Nid oes llawer o dynion yn y gwaelodau yng Nghymru.
1:17:28Nid o
1:17:29Mae'n gallu effeithio ar y cyfleoedd o gyflawniad gan Wallace, ond os yw'r diogelwch wedi'i ddatblygu, gadewch i mi ddweud hynny, y byddwn i eisiau ei gadw.
1:17:54Mae John Steele yma, ac mae'n rhaid i ni wneud hynny.
1:17:55Mae'n rhaid i ni wneud hynny.
1:17:56Mae'n rhaid i ni wneud hynny.
1:17:56Mae'n rhaid i ni wneud hynny.
1:18:02ac ond mae'n siarad, mae'n siarad yn ymwneud â gwleidyddiaeth cofnodol yma ac dydw i ddim yn siŵr, dwi'n gofyn i fynd i'r tŷ a fyddai'n bwysig am hynny.
1:18:25Byddai'n debyg, os nad yw hynny'n cael ei wneud, byddai'n newid llawer o newid ac ni fyddwn ni'n cael un.
1:18:27Ie, yn siŵr, ond rydych chi'n gorfod gwneud hynny hefyd oherwydd rydych chi'n ymgymryd, rydych chi'n gwybod.
1:18:29Ie.
1:18:30Rydw i'n cymryd George a Van Dusen, roeddwn i bob amser yn Van Dusen oherwydd roedd Van Dusen yn
1:18:34y byddwch chi'n gallu clywed amdanyn nhw.
1:18:49Ie, sir.
1:18:50Mae'n rhaid i chi gael un ar y swyddfa ysgol hon.
1:18:53Ac, er enghraifft, mae'r diogelwch sy'n arwain yn y system ysgol diogelwch, un o'r bobl sy'n mynd allan i Richardson, Garland, i'r ystafelloedd hynny, lle nad yw'r blaenau yn ymddygiad yn unig, neu'r rhan fwyaf sy'n cael eu colli yn yr holl bwysau y tu allan.
1:18:59Ac mae rhywun sy'n mynd i ddweud, a'i argymell, efallai y byddwch chi'n rhaid i'r ystafelloedd ysgol ysgol ysgol hynny
1:19:04Nid yw modd iddyn nhw ddweud hynny, oherwydd nid oes ymddiriedaeth leol ar gyfer hynny, yn arbennig o ran Mr. Ribacost.
1:19:25Ac wrth gwrs, mae'r ffyrdd gweithredu'r ffyrdd gweithredu'r ffyrdd gweithredu'r ffyrdd gweithredu'r ffyrdd gweithredu'r ffyrdd gweithredu'r ffyrdd gweithredu'r ffyrdd gweithredu.
1:19:40ond rydyn ni ddim yn gwneud unrhyw beth.
1:20:10Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud y gwirionedd.
1:20:28Mae'n rhaid i mi dweud y gwirionedd.
1:20:34ac nid ydych chi'n gallu cael unrhyw gwasanaethau ar gyfer hynny, ond ar y llall arall mae hynny'n digwydd.
1:20:52Mae llawer o bobl yn hoffi byw gyda'i gilydd.
1:20:52Pwydym ni'n gysylltu'r pols yng Nghymru â phobl sydd ddim yn pols?
1:20:54Maen nhw i gyd yn yr un cymuned.
1:20:54Mae yna ychydig o pols sy'n byw gyda
1:21:01maen nhw'n cael eu rhestr yn eu hunain.
1:21:15Maen nhw'n cael eu rhestr yn eu hunain.
1:21:16Maen nhw'n cael eu rhestr yn eu hunain.
1:21:17Maen nhw'n cael eu rhestr yn eu hunain.
1:21:18Maen nhw'n cael eu rhestr yn eu hunain.
1:21:18Maen nhw'n cael eu rhestr yn eu hunain.
1:21:19Maen nhw'n cael eu rhestr yn eu hunain.
1:21:30Wel, rwyf wedi'u gweld yn y sefydliad hwnnw, oherwydd rwyf wedi'u gweld yn y sefydliad hwnnw eithaf llawer.
1:21:49Mae'n iawn.
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1:22:01Rwy'n ymddiriedol bod rhywbeth yn anghywir ac mae'r cwestiwn yma'n anghywir.
1:22:19Mae'r cwestiwn yma'n anghywir.
1:22:19Mae'r cwestiwn yma'n anghywir.
1:22:20Mae'r cwestiwn yma'n anghywir.
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1:22:24Mae'r cwestiwn yma'n anghywir.
1:22:25Mae'r cwestiwn yma'n anghywir.
1:22:25Mae'r cwestiwn yma'n anghywir.
1:22:26Mae'r cwestiwn yma'n anghywir.
1:22:26Mae'r cwestiwn yma
1:22:49Ond, dwi ddim yn gwybod.
1:23:12Ond os ydych chi'n gwneud hynny'n wir, byddwn ni'n cydweithio'n dda iawn.
1:23:13Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
1:23:14Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
1:23:14Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
1:23:15Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
1:23:15Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
1:23:16Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
1:23:16Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
1:23:17Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
1:23:17Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
1:23:18Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
1:23:31Dwi'n meddwl bod yna un o'r cwestiynau sy'n rhaid i ni ddweud y gwir.
1:23:50Mae'r pethau sy'n rhaid i ni ddweud yw bod yna un o'r pethau sy'n rhaid i ni ddweud yw bod yna un o'r pethau sy'n rhaid i ni ddweud yw bod yna un o'r pethau sy'n rhaid i ni ddweud yw bod yna un o'r pethau sy'n rhaid i ni ddweud yw bod yna un o'r pethau sy'n rhaid i ni ddweud.
1:24:03ac yna dydyn nhw ddim yn gofalu sut i ddod i mewn oherwydd byddant yn sefydlu'n ôl i ni ymlaen yn y flwyddyn diwethaf ac yna byddwn ni'n gallu gwneud ychydig o hynny ac yna byddwn ni'n gallu gwneud ychydig o hynny ac yna byddant yn gallu gwneud ychydig o hynny
1:24:33Dwi'n meddwl eich bod chi'n rhaid i mi fynd ymlaen, ond rwy'n gobeithio y bydda i'n cymryd y llawr hwnnw.
1:24:51Hefyd, John, peidiwch â bod yn hyderus iawn am unrhyw un ohonynt.
1:24:52Ac os wyt ti'n gwybod unrhyw un ohonynt, rydych chi'n gwybod.
1:25:37Dwi'n meddwl y byddaf wedi'i ddefnyddio.
1:25:55Dwi'n meddwl y byddaf wedi'i ddefnyddio
1:26:05Mae'n ddiddorol.
1:26:27Mae'n ddiddorol.
1:26:27Mae'n ddiddorol.
1:26:27Mae'n ddiddorol.
1:26:42Rwy'n gwybod eich bod chi'n gwneud hynny.
1:27:09Mae hynny'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth
1:27:12Mae'r cyfeiriadau yma'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n rhywbeth sy'n
1:27:41Beth yw'r peth?
1:27:56Beth rydych chi'n ei ddangos yn ymwneud â'r misiwn?
1:28:02Oherwydd, os byddwn i'n gwneud y gwaith, mae'n rhaid i ni gael y dealltwriaeth yn glir, rwy'n credu, o ran y misiwn.
1:28:05Rwy'n credu ei bod yn bwysig oherwydd, o ran fy marn i, mae'n rhaid i ni gydnabod y cwmniad, ac wrth fynd i mewn, mae llawer o hyn y gallwn ni ddechrau o safbwynt gwahanol.
1:28:09Rwy'n credu ei bod yn bwysig.
1:28:10Fel rwy'n ei ddangos, rwy'n dweud i Pete,
1:28:11Rwy'n gweld y cyfle yma i fod yn gyfrifol ar gyfer yr ardaloedd trafodaeth mawr yng nghyd-destun y trafodaeth, ac yn gweithio tuag at ddiwedd y negosiadau, y polisïau a'r cyflwyniadau, i gael cyfnod diogel gwell i'r U.S. ac hefyd i greu
1:28:38sy'n gwella'r system ar-lein er mwyn gwella'r system ar-lein.
1:28:56Nid yw hynny'n ymwneud â ddwy bethau yn unig.
1:28:57Yn gyntaf, dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r ffordd y byddwn ni'n gwneud hynny.
1:28:58Yn unig, rwy'n credu ei fod yn ymwneud â phwysigrwydd mawr, fel rwy'n ei ystyried yn ystod y cyfnod preswyl, i ddweud
1:29:02bod hwn yn rhan o'r era o drafodaethau, drafodaethau economaidd, ond nid ymgysylltiad, fel y dywedodd Saul yn siarad.
1:29:25Byddwn yn parhau i siarad yn unrhyw ffordd yr oes gennym.
1:29:27A ddwy, bod ein ffrindiau y tu allan yn cydnabod bod hyn yn ymwneud â hynny'n ymwneud â'r Adran.
1:29:29Oherwydd rwy'n credu eu bod nhw i'r diwrnod heddiw, ychydig diwrnod diwethaf, ddwy adroddiadau lle maen nhw'n ystyried y cyfarfod OECD, a'r cyfarfod hynny heddiw, ac maen nhw'n clywed, yn anffodus i'n bobl o'n Deyrnas Unedig, bod hyn yn amgylchedd gofalu.
1:29:49Ac rwy'n ddiddordeb.
1:29:49Rwy'n gweithiwr.
1:29:50Rwy'n ystyried beth yw'r gweithredaeth sy'n cael ei wneud.
1:30:03Mae'r cymdeithas, y cyfnodau uchel, a'r sefyllfa yma yn gwneud gweithredaeth sy'n cael ei wneud.
1:30:05Mae'n ymwneud â'r 72 eiliadau a'r farchnad cyffredinol.
1:30:07Mae hynny'n bwysig iawn.
1:30:21Yn ystod hynny, rydyn ni'n meddwl y bydd ychydig o drafodaethau o ran ble rydyn ni'n mynd yma.
1:30:27Roedd Dennis Healy'n gwneud yr adroddiad hwnnw yn Y Llywodraeth Llywodraeth yn ddwy diwrnod yn ôl.
1:30:29Yn y papurau'r Gymraeg, mae fy ffrindiau yno'n bwysig iawn.
1:30:31Felly mae'r rheswm rwyf wedi'i gyflwyno yw ei fod yn ymwneud â gwneud swydd.
1:30:32Roeddwn i eisiau cael hynny'n ymwybodol â chi, beth ydych chi'n ei anghymryd, ac roedd hynny'n ymwneud â llywodra
1:30:35Dwi'n credu ei fod wedi cyhoeddi'r cwestiwn ail, a'r hyn yw gwybod beth yw'r cyflawniadau, a phwy yw'n gyfrifol.
1:30:56Dwi ddim yn disgwyl i unrhyw un o chi weithio ar Carnaval, dyna beth rydw i'n ceisio gwneud, gan gwybod bod gennych ymrwymiadau i'r Mhrifysgol Kennedy ac i'r bobl eraill, y cymdeithasau ad-hoc a'r ddiogelwch o'r SDR hyd at y pwynt hwnnw.
1:31:03Dyna beth rydw i'n credu yw hynny.
1:31:04Pwy yw'n gwneud hynny?
1:31:04Pwy yw'n parhau i gynhyrchu hynny?
1:31:05Ymrwymiadau
1:31:06wedi mynd i Shultz i'r swyddfeydd, ond roedd yn dweud hynny.
1:31:26Mae'r SDR wedi cael ei gyflawni ac mae'n mynd i'r Llywodraeth.
1:31:27Mae amrywiaethau mawr wedi cael eu rhoi i gymdeithasau, ac mae'r cysylltiad â'r Prifysgol wedi datblygu.
1:31:29Mae hyn yn ysgrifennu.
1:31:30Dydw i ddim yn gwybod pwy oedd yn ei weld, ond dydw i ddim yn meddwl y galla i wneud y swydd.
1:31:40Rwy'n mynd i mewn ac rwy'n deall gyda chi beth yw'r ffostr hwnnw a beth yw'r effaith a yw hynny.
1:31:59Felly byddaf yn gofyn i chi roi pethau.
1:32:02Un, rwy'n credu ei bod yn dda i'r gwleidyddion gwahanol i'w deall.
1:32:03Nid yw hynny'n rhywbeth rydych chi eisiau ei wneud.
1:32:04Rwy'n credu y gallwn ni gael rhywbeth.
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1:32:23Rwy'n ymddygiadol ei bod hefyd yn dda i'r gwleidyddion gwleidyddol ddweud bod yna trafodaeth ac rydyn ni yma i gael mwy o hynny i'w wneud.
1:32:28Yn ymddygiadol o newid economaeth, economaeth rhyngwladol, mae hyn yma.
1:32:30Mae'r cynllun rhyngwladol hwn yn gweithio â'r trafodaethau cymdeithasol.
1:32:32Mae hynny'n ymddygiadol iawn.
1:32:32Mae hynny'n ymddygiadol iawn.
1:32:40uh uh
1:33:11Yn ail, o ran y broblem cyffredinol, nid ydym ni'n gallu gobeithio i'r Llywodraeth roi problemau i'r Elywodraeth nawr.
1:33:35Yn enwedig gyda'n ffrindiau Ewropeaidd, rydyn ni'n siarad am Ewropeaidd ac i'r rhan fwyaf o'r byd, ond rwy'n teimlo ein bod ni'n rhaid i ni fynd allan o'r prifysgolion cyffredinol sydd wedi'i wneud o ran hyn, oherwydd ei effeithiau.
1:33:41y lleiaf yng Nghymru, Yng Nghymru a phobl eraill yn ymwneud â'r ymchwil.
1:34:03Wel, y lleiaf yng Nghymru a phobl eraill yn ymwneud â'r ymchwil.
1:34:04Wel, y lleiaf yng Nghymru a phobl eraill yn ymwneud â'r ymchwil.
1:34:06Wel, y lleiaf yng Nghymru a phobl eraill yn ymwneud â'r ymchwil.
1:34:07Wel, y lleiaf yng Nghymru a phobl eraill yn ymwneud â'r ymchwil.
1:34:08Wel, y lleiaf yng Nghymru a phobl eraill yn ymwneud â'r ymchwil.
1:34:10Wel, y lleiaf yng Nghymru a phobl eraill yn ymwneud â'r
1:34:11Rwy'n credu y bydd yna lawer o ymddygiadau.
1:34:28Rwy'n credu y byddai'n rhaid i ni gael rhywfaint o elusiynau ac y byddwn ni ddim yn penderfynu amdanyn nhw.
1:34:30Ond mae'r Cymdeithas yn yr un ochr ac mae'r farchnad cymdeithasol yn yr ochr arall wedi edrych ar farchnad trefn bywydol.
1:34:33Rydyn ni'n edrych ar trefn fel mae rhywun wedi'i ddweud, mae'n adnodd.
1:34:35Yn ôl y 50au, roedd pwrpas ein traed yn gweithredu ar gyfer ein polisi gwahanol.
1:34:53Ac nawr, rydyn ni'n newid.
1:34:54Mae pwrpas ein traed yn gweithredu ar gyfer ein polisi gwahanol.
1:34:55Dyna beth maen nhw'n ei wneud, a dyna beth mae'n rhaid i ni ei wneud.
1:34:56Dyna beth rydyn ni'n dod i lawr.
1:34:57Felly, dyna rhywbeth sy'n newydd i'w gweld.
1:34:58Nawr, nid yw'r adnodd hwnnw'n cael ei ddefnyddio, ond mae'r Gweinidog yn cael ei ddefnyddio.
1:35:06rydyn ni'n gwneud hynny.
1:35:34Mae'n rhaid i ni ddweud hynny.
1:35:35Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
1:35:56Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
1:35:56Rydyn ni wedi gwneud hynny.
1:36:11ond yr hyn rydw i'n ei argymell yma yw ein bod ni ddim yn dechrau gwneud unrhyw wahanol newid.
1:36:35Mae'n rhaid i ni ddweud pob un o'r pethau hyfryd ynghylch trafodaeth yn wych ac ati, ac rydyn ni wrth gwrs eisiau cael cyfathrebu yn y byd, yn y byd agored a'r holl hynny.
1:36:38Mae'r geiriau hynny'n ddifarog iawn.
1:36:39Ond pan mae'r negosiad yn cael ei wneud, mae'n rhaid i'r sefyllfa'r Unedau a'r holl ardaloedd fod yn
1:36:42Mae'n llawer fawr i'w ddangos, ond nid o ran y misiwn Cenedlaethol.
1:37:07Gallaf roi'r cyd-destun hwnnw drwy ddweud bod gennym, ar y pryd, rhywun yn y sefyllfa hwnnw o fwy, byddem yn ei ddweud, fawr ac ati, yn y sefyllfa hwnnw.
1:37:10Mae'n, byddwn i'n dweud, eithaf anodd y byddai'r misiwn hwnnw'n rhaid iddo gael ei wneud.
1:37:12Rwy'n hoffi gweld y swyddfa hwn a'r ffordd y mae'r swyddfa yn gweithio.
1:37:34Mae'n rhaid, ac mae'n rhaid, ac mae'n ymwneud â'r sefyllfa yn ôl, mae'n rhaid i'r sefydliad gael ei gyflawni, ei fod wedi cael ei gyhoeddi.
1:37:37Nawr, mae ychydig o brofiad hwnnw wedi cael ei ddysgu yn fy mhobl, ond yr hyn a ddigwyddodd yno, fel y dywedodd
1:37:39Mae'r bwysigrwydd o gael cefnogaeth cyhoeddus ar gyfer y cenedlaeth cyfan ac ati ac ati yn y Deyrnas Unedig yn cael ei gyflawni'n ffordd.
1:37:56Felly, roedd yn rhaid iddyn nhw gael cefnogaeth cyhoeddus, felly fe wnaeth hwnnw fynd i'r swydd hwn.
1:37:58Felly, fe wnaeth hwnnw'r arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth arweinyddiaeth
1:38:03Diolch.
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1:38:31Yn gyntaf, roeddwn i'n ymwneud â'r adnoddau gwych sydd wedi'u gwneud yng Nghymru.
1:38:50Yn gyntaf, roeddwn i'n ymwneud â'r adnoddau gwych sydd wedi'u gwneud yng Nghymru.
1:38:52Roeddwn i'n ymwneud â'r adnoddau gwych sydd wedi'u gwneud yng Nghymru.
1:38:54Roeddwn i'n ymwneud â'r adnoddau gwych sydd wedi'u gwneud yng Nghymru.
1:38:55Roeddwn i'n ymwneud â'r adnoddau gwych sydd wedi'u gwneud yng Nghymru.
1:38:56Roeddwn i'n ymwneud â'r adnoddau gwych
1:38:57Byddaf yn gweithio'n dda iawn.
1:39:15Mae'r Brifysgol wedi cytuno i bwydo flynyddoedd Lachin.
1:39:17Roedd hynny'n ymwneud â'r un sefyllfa sydd wedi digwydd o'r blaen.
1:39:20Mae'r Cenedlaid, a'r dynwadau, a phobl yng Nghymru, yn hoff i ddweud hynny, ond mae'r flynyddoedd yng Nghymru wedi'i wneud.
1:39:22Mae'n syml, ond mae wedi'i wneud drwy'r byd.
1:39:23Mae'r Cenedlaid wedi'i wneud drwy'r wlad ac mae rhywun arall wedi gwneud rhywbeth arall.
1:39:25Ac mae'r holl brofiadau y byddwn ni'n eu cymryd i'r
1:39:30Mae hynny ddim yn cael ei chwarae fel hyn ar hyn o bryd, ond mae'n rhaid i ni gael hynny'n cysylltiedig mwy.
1:39:51Felly, yr hyn rydyn ni'n ei gyflwyno yma yw ymwneud â newyddiaeth.
1:39:52Ac mae'n ceisio gofyn am rywfaint o ddewisiadau ddewisiadol, mewn gwirionedd, ac mae hynny'n ymwneud â rhai pethau sy'n ymwneud â hynny.
1:39:56Mae hynny'n ymwneud â rhai pethau sy'n ymwneud â hynny.
1:39:57Mae hynny'n ymwneud â rhai pethau sy'n ymwneud â hynny.
1:39:59Mae hynny'n ymwneud â rhai p
1:40:01Mae'r Deyrnas Unedig yn rhaid i ni ddod allan gyda'r un arall, neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas neu rydych chi'n gallu bod o gwmpas
1:40:33Mae hynny yn rhywbeth arall.
1:40:51Mae hynny yn y maes antitrust.
1:40:56Os rydyn ni'n dechrau chwarae gêm, fel ein Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg, Cymraeg,
1:41:05Os oes gen i ddod i'r swyddfa, byddwn i ddim wedi gofyn i chi ddod i'r swyddfa.
1:41:25Os oes gen i ddod i'r swyddfa, byddwn i ddim wedi gofyn i chi ddod i'r swyddfa.
1:41:26Os oes gen i ddod i'r swyddfa, byddwn i ddod i'r swyddfa.
1:41:29Os oes gen i ddod i'r swyddfa, byddwn i ddod i'r swyddfa.
1:41:30Os oes gen i ddod i'r swyddfa, byddwn i ddod i'r swyddfa.
1:41:31Os oes gen i ddod i'r swyddfa, byddwn i ddod i'r swyddfa.
1:41:33Os oes gen i ddod i'r swyddfa, byddwn i ddod i'r swyddfa.
1:41:34Os oes
1:41:35Just do the necessity, not just the little necessity.
1:41:52It's on that basis that I'm interested in everybody to come down and try to get the results.
1:41:55That's what I'm... Well, we've got one of the better things we have here.
1:41:56Pete's office here.
1:41:57You have a good working relationship, which is terribly important to this.
1:41:58With our new committee and, you know, the actual policy.
1:41:59Policy.
1:42:02Rydw i ddim yn meddwl y byddaf yn y sefyllfa, ond rydw i'n meddwl y byddaf yn y sefyllfa a bod yn negosiadwr am yr hyn a fyddwn i'n ei wneud am sgwydau, a'r hyn a fyddwn i'n ei wneud am hyn a hyn.
1:42:17Nid ydych chi'n gallu gofyn i bawb ddod i lawr o ffwrdd mawr.
1:42:27Mae'n rhaid i unrhyw weithredwyr cymdeithasol i wneud hynny, ond yr hyn rydyn ni wir eisiau ei wneud yw i gael eich meddwl, ac hefyd rydych chi'n rhaid cael negosiadwyr i wneud llawer o'r pethau hynny, ond yr hyn rydyn ni wir eisiau yw eich cyfrif, eich cyfrif, eich cyfrif i'r holl ddiddordeb newydd yng Nghymru.
1:42:50Dyna'r hyn rydyn ni'n ei wneud.
1:42:52Yn ôl, rydyn ni wedi trafod ein polisi ar gyfer cefnogi ein polisi gwahanol.
1:43:11Nawr, rydyn ni'n trafod ein polisi amgylcheddol ar gyfer cefnogi ein polisi.
1:43:13Dyna'r dyniaeth.
1:43:14Nid oes problem ar hyn o bryd.
1:43:15Mae'n bwysig iawn.
1:43:24Beth yw'r swyddfa yma nawr, lle rydyn ni'n symud ymlaen?
1:43:31Ychydig a hanner.
1:43:32Nid yn unig.
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1:43:35Nid yn unig.
1:43:36Diolch yn fawr.
1:43:4690% o'r amser rydw i'n siŵr y byddwn ni'n gallu cyflawni ein broblemau.
1:44:03Mae hynny ddim yn broblem i chi.
1:44:04Rydw i'n meddwl, wrth gwrs, bod rhaid i mi, os oes gen i broblem, dweud wrth fy mod i'n cael mynediad, oes gen i ddiddordeb.
1:44:08Oes gen i ddiddordeb i ddweud wrthych chi, oes hynny'n arbennig.
1:44:10Bydd rhaid i mi ddefnyddio hynny, os ydw i'n gwneud hynny.
1:44:12Rwy'n siŵr y byddwn i'n gofyn.
1:44:13Rwy'n hoffi bod yn gyflym ac rwy'n gallu cyflawni.
1:44:14Os yw'n bwysig,
1:44:14Rwy'n deall hynny.
1:44:23Mae'r peth yn mynd ymlaen, mae gennym broblem.
1:44:34Wel, efallai y byddwch chi'n cael rhywbeth i'w wneud.
1:44:35Mae'n dda, rwy'n deall hynny.
1:44:36A'r peth am y swyddfa hwn, rydyn ni'n ceisio... rydyn ni'n ceisio lleihau'r nifer ohonyn nhw sy'n gael hynny, fel y byddai'n fwy hynny pan fyddwn ni'n cael y sefyllfa hwnnw.
1:44:39Mae'r swyddfa hwn yn y swyddfa, ac mae'n rhaid i ni ei gyfathrebu â'r Prifysgol.
1:44:41Felly mae'n rhaid i chi gael hynny.
1:44:42Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny.
1:45:00Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny.
1:45:03Rydyn ni'n gweithio ar hynny ac rydyn ni'n meddwl sut y gallwn ni gweithio gyda'n gilydd.
1:45:26Mae'r hyn hwn yn bwysig iawn.
1:45:27Mae'r hyn hwn yn bwysig iawn.
1:45:27Mae'r hyn hwn yn bwysig iawn.
1:45:28Mae'r hyn hwn yn bwysig iawn.
1:45:29Mae'r hyn hwn yn bwysig iawn.
1:45:29Mae'r hyn hwn yn bwysig iawn.
1:45:39Mae'n rhaid i chi edrych ar ffyrdd diogelwch, oherwydd dyna'r ffordd yr ydych chi'n gallu gwneud.
1:45:55Ond un peth am hynny, mewn trefn, nid yn unig yn y Llywodraeth, nid yn unig yn y trefn, ond mewn ystafell trefn, mewn ystafell trefn, mewn ystafell trefn, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud, mae'n
1:46:05Mae hynny'n ymwneud â'r ffaith bod llawer o leiaf wedi cael eu cymryd i fod yn y ffordd y maen nhw'n ei wneud, oherwydd mae'r sefyllfa ddiweddar ar hyn o bryd yn y ffordd arall.
1:46:26Yr un arall y byddwch chi'n mynd ati ar hyn o bryd yw, wrth gwrs, byddwn ni'n gwneud pwysau ar gyfer hynny.
1:46:28Byddwn ni'n gwneud pwysau ar gyfer ymgynghoriad.
1:46:29Nid yw hynny'n ymwneud â'r sylwadau.
1:46:30Mae'r sylwadau sy'n gweithio'n ddefnyddiol yn eich amser.
1:46:31Yr un arall y byddwch chi'n ei
1:46:36Mae'n ymwneud â'r peth trefn, mae'n ymwneud â'r peth trefn.
1:46:59Mae'n ymwneud â'r peth trefn.
1:47:00Mae'n ymwneud â'r peth trefn.
1:47:01Mae'n ymwneud â'r peth trefn.
1:47:03Mae'n ymwneud â'r peth trefn.
1:47:05Ac wrth gwrs, mae'r adnoddau eraill, o ran eu rôl, maen nhw'n rhedeg ac yn rhedeg, ac mae rhai ohonyn nhw, wrth gwrs, wrth gwrs, wrth gwrs, wrth gwrs, wrth gwrs, wrth gwrs, wrth gwrs, wrth gwrs,
1:47:35ac rydyn ni'n gobeithio y byddwch chi hefyd.
1:47:50Rwy'n mynd i wneud y cyflwyniad.
1:47:51Ac hefyd, rwy'n credu bod pob un o'r pethau hyn yn dda iawn yn cael ei wneud, fel rwy'n ei wneud yn bwysig yma.
1:48:06Rwy'n hoffi gweld yr awgrymiadau, ond rwy'n credu bod un o'r pethau arall rwy'n hoffi bod yn siŵr i chi ddeall yw, rwy'n hoffi bod y llyfr yn dod i me, ac rydych chi'n dweud beth rydych chi'n meddwl y dylech chi ei wneud hefyd.
1:48:27Rwy'n hoffi gwneud hynny bob amser, ond rwy'n hoffi gwybod beth rydych chi'n ei wneud.
1:48:29Os oes gennych chi'r llyfr hwnnw, mae'n hawdd i unrhyw un dweud, wel, mae hynny'n ymgysylltiad amdanyn nhw, ymgysylltiad â'r llyfr, ac yna rydych chi'
1:48:33Ac rydyn ni ddim yn cymryd chi yma i ddysgu beth yw'r opsiwnau.
1:48:51Gallwn gael graddwyr newydd.
1:48:52Nid yw'r ysgol llaw yn gwneud hynny.
1:48:53Ond rydyn ni ddim yn gofyn i chi wneud hyn.
1:48:54Rydyn ni ddim yn gofyn i chi wneud hyn.
1:48:54Rydyn ni ddim yn gofyn i chi wneud hyn.
1:48:55Rydyn ni ddim yn gofyn i chi wneud hyn.
1:48:56Rydyn ni ddim yn gofyn i chi wneud hyn.
1:48:57Rydyn ni ddim yn gofyn i chi wneud hyn.
1:48:58ac nid oes unrhyw sylwad ar yr unigol.
1:49:13Nid oes unrhyw sylwad ar yr unigol.
1:49:20Nid oes unrhyw sylwad ar yr unigol.
1:49:21Nid oes unrhyw sylwad ar yr unigol.
1:49:21Nid oes unrhyw sylwad ar yr unigol.
1:49:22Nid oes unrhyw sylwad ar yr unigol.
1:49:23Nid oes unrhyw sylwad ar yr unigol.
1:49:24Nid oes unrhyw sylwad ar yr unigol.
1:49:27Diolch yn fawr.
1:49:56Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud y cwestiwn arall.
1:50:07Rwy'n hoffi cael rhywbeth.
1:50:09Mae'n dda i mi, wrth gwrs.
1:50:33Dwi'n siŵr.
1:50:33Dwi'n deall eich bod yn deall.
1:50:34Felly mae fy ngwmniant i chi yw, a dwi ddim yn edrych ar hyn fel ymgysylltiad sylfaenol, ond dim ond ymgysylltiad sylfaenol.
1:50:37Yn rhyw bryd, efallai eich bod wedi cyflawni
1:50:38a byddwn i'n dod yn effeithiol.
1:50:52Byddwn i eisiau teimlo'n dda i ddod yn ôl i'r Prif Weinidog, ond rwy'n credu bod amser i mi symud ymlaen.
1:50:55Rwy'n gobeithio nad yw hynny'n digwydd.
1:50:56Rwy'n gobeithio nad yw hynny'n digwydd.
1:50:57Rwy'n gobeithio nad yw hynny'n digwydd.
1:50:58Rwy'n gobeithio nad yw hynny'n digwydd.
1:50:59Rwy'n gobeithio nad yw hynny'n digwydd.
1:51:01Rwy'n gobeithio nad yw hynny'n digwydd.
1:51:01Rwy'n gobeithio nad yw hynny'n digwydd.
1:51:03Rwy'n gobeithio nad yw hynny'n digwydd.
1:51:03Rwy'n gobeith
1:51:05Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth ydw i'n mynd i'w wneud, dwi ddim yn gwybod beth ydw i'n mynd i'w wneud.
1:51:28Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth ydw i'n mynd i'w wneud.
1:51:29Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth ydw i'n mynd i'w wneud.
1:51:30Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth ydw i'n mynd i'w wneud.
1:51:31Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth ydw i'n mynd i'w wneud.
1:51:32Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth ydw i'n mynd i'w wneud.
1:51:34Mae fy nghydweithiwr wedi 17 mlynedd yng Nghymru.
1:51:52Rwy'n gobeithio nad ydw i'n gwneud penderfyniadau, ac mae hi'n ddyn newydd yn ôl yma, felly mae hi'n ddiddorol.
1:51:57Mae hi'n peintio.
1:51:57Mae hi'n peintio.
1:51:58Mae hi'n peintio.
1:51:59Mae hi'n peintio.
1:51:59Mae hi'n peintio.
1:52:00Mae hi'n peintio.
1:52:00Mae hi'n peintio.
1:52:00Mae hi'n peintio.
1:52:02Mae hi'n peintio.
1:52:02Mae hi'n peintio.
1:52:03Mae hynny'n gallu bod yn gwirioneddol.
1:52:22Efallai y byddwch chi'n teimlo'n isolaidd yn Los Angeles.
1:52:23Mae hynny'n gwirioneddol.
1:52:24Yn ôl bod yn gwirioneddol, mae'n gwirioneddol wahanol.
1:52:25Ond, wel, rwy'n credu y byddwch chi'n dod o amser.
1:52:26Mae hynny'n ddiddorol oherwydd rydyn ni'n gwneud llawer o feddwl anodd am y peth hwn.
1:52:27Rydw i'n hapus i chi fod yn gwneud hynny.
1:52:29Yn y wythnos diwethaf, roeddwn i'n meddwl bod hynny'n bwysig.
1:52:42Yn y wythnos diwethaf, roeddwn i'n meddwl bod hynny'n bwysig.
1:52:47Yn y wythnos diwethaf, roeddwn i'n meddwl bod hynny'n bwysig.
1:52:50Felly mae'n rhaid i mi ddod o hyd i Carl Gilbert nawr, ac mae gen i ffyrdd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd Cymryd
1:53:16Mae'n sefyllfa anodd lle roeddwn i wedi gwneud hynny chwe mis yn ôl i wneud rhywbeth arall.
1:53:32Ac hefyd i chi gael cysylltiad â'r cydweithredaeth sydd wedi cael ei wneud.
1:53:38OECD plus this.
1:53:57I know enough about that amount of people and their ways that we can do a job and we can bring in, I think, some of those two decades.
1:54:03Mae'n debyg.
1:54:24Mae'n debyg.
1:54:27Mae'n debyg.
1:54:34Rwy'n hoffi gweld ein bod ni wedi cymryd eich ffrindiau ar gyfer unrhyw syniadau sydd ar ôl y pethau hyn.
1:54:56Rwy'n dweud, nid ydych chi'n gallu bod yma i fod yn negosiadwr ac i fod yn ychwanegol â phroblem.
1:54:58Rwy'n meddwl y gallwn ni ddweud yr un peth yma.
1:55:00Mae'n dda iawn.
1:55:09Mae'n dda iawn.
1:55:09Mae'n dda iawn.
1:55:09Mae'n dda iawn.
1:55:12Diolch yn fawr.
1:57:30Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn yn sicr o gael hynny'n dda.
1:57:47Mae hynny'n dda iawn.
1:57:47Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn yn sicr o gael hynny'n dda.
1:57:48Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn yn sicr o gael hynny'n dda.
1:57:49Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn yn sicr o gael hynny'n dda.
1:57:50Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn yn sicr o gael hynny'n dda.
1:57:51Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn yn sicr o gael hynny'n dda.
1:57:52Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn yn sicr o gael hynny'n dda.
1:57:53Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn yn sicr o gael hynny'n dda.
1:57:54Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn yn sic
1:58:01Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn i eisiau cael eich drafodaethau ar y bwrdd.
1:58:15Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn i eisiau cael eich drafodaethau ar y bwrdd.
1:58:20Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn i eisiau cael eich drafodaethau ar y bwrdd.
1:58:21Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn i eisiau cael eich drafodaethau ar y bwrdd.
1:58:23Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn i eisiau cael eich drafodaethau ar y bwrdd.
1:58:24Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn i eisiau cael eich drafodaethau ar y bwrdd.
1:58:25Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn i eisiau cael eich drafodaethau ar y bwrdd.
1:58:26Rwy'n meddwl y byddwn i eisia
1:58:42Roedd yn dweud y byddai'r penderfyniad hwnnw'n ymwneud â'r pethau y byddwn ni'n eu penderfynu amdanyn nhw.
1:59:08Mae'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan
1:59:25Ac wedyn dwi'n dweud wrth i'r Prif Weinidog fod yn bwysig nad oes unrhyw argymhellion i'w wneud ac nid oes unrhyw sylwadau i'w wneud ac nid oes unrhyw sylwadau i'w wneud ac nid oes unrhyw sylwadau i'w wneud ac nid oes unrhyw sylwadau i'w wneud ac nid oes unrhyw sylwadau i'w wneud ac nid oes unrhyw sylwadau i'w wneud ac nid oes unrhyw sylwadau i'w wneud ac nid oes unrhyw sylwadau i'w wneud ac nid oes unrhyw sylwadau i'w wneud
1:59:56Yn gyffredinol, efallai eich bod chi'n dweud eich bod chi'n dweud eich bod chi'n dweud eich bod chi'n dweud eich bod chi'n dweud eich bod chi'n dweud eich bod chi'n dweud eich bod chi'n dweud eich bod chi'n dweud eich bod chi'n dweud eich bod chi'n dweud
2:00:25Mae'r cyfrifoldeb ar gyfer yr economaeth i gydol y dyniaeth yn gweithredu gyda'r Prif Weinidog ac wedi cael ei gyfrifoldeb.
2:00:49Mae'r Prif Weinidog bob amser yn cyflwyno'r dyniaeth sydd wedi cael ei ddefnyddio.
2:00:52Mae'n rhaid i ni gael cymaint o ailgylchu, ailgylchu, ymchwil, a yw hynny'n effeithio ar y polisi economaidd, a yw hynny'n effeithio ar y polisi economaidd, a yw hynny'n effeithio ar y polisi economaidd, a yw hynny'n effeithio ar y polisi economaidd, a yw hynny'n effeithio ar y polisi economaidd, a yw hynny'n effeithio ar y polisi economaidd, a yw hynny'n effeithio ar y polisi economaidd, a yw hynny'n effeithio ar y polisi economaidd, a yw hynny'n effeithio ar y polisi economaidd, a yw hynny'n effeithio ar y pol
2:01:20Mae'n rhywbeth ymlaen â hynny.
2:01:34Roeddwn i'n ei ddefnyddio yn ystod y diwrnod diwethaf, ond roeddwn i'n ei ddefnyddio ar hyn o bryd.
2:01:39Mae'r cwestiwn yw, mewn gwirionedd, pan dwi'n dweud ar hyn o bryd, nad yw'r Prif Weinidog yn cael hynny'n cael ei ystyried ar hyn o bryd.
2:01:44Mae hynny'n ei adlewyrchu.
2:01:45Os dwi'n dweud, roeddwn i'n siarad â'r Prif Weinidog y bore yma a dywedodd iddo i mi nad oedd yn bwriadu ystyried unrhyw bethau fel hynny, mae hynny'n ei allu tynnu ychydig.
2:01:49Rwy
2:01:54Diolch yn fawr am wylio'r fideo.
2:02:1823.22.
0:05The responsibility for the economic health of the nation.
0:29Basically, when the president had the event and had the consulate, the president was always in full respect of the events.
0:31He was very concerned about their
0:37have a constant re-examination, re-appraisal of all the instruments that may affect the economic policy, that may affect the economic policy, whether they're on the president or under, or independent of the president, or so forth.
1:01And those studies are going on, and they continue to go on.
1:04I followed basically this line yesterday, but I used at this time.
1:15The question is really, when I say at this time, that the president does not have this under consideration at this time.
1:26That leaves it loose if I say, I talked to the president this morning and he indicated to me that he did not plan to consider any such change.
1:30That tightens it up a little.
1:31I just wonder if you want me to...
1:33Okay.
1:33Okay.
1:41All right.
1:55All right.
1:58All right.
2:04All right.
2:28But I was over in Madrid.
2:49I was invited to attend a dinner.
2:50After the dinner, I went over to see Nancy, my wife.
2:52I'm the kind of guy who's always got to stay married.
2:53So I was sitting with the vice president.
2:54He turned to me and said, can I talk to you for a few minutes?
2:56So meanwhile, there was a band of musicians playing, honoring him.
3:14He looked like there was something bothering him.
3:17So he stayed there and talked.
3:17During the course of the conversation, Bart Stomer and one other person I was talking about, they all tried to come over to a parade.
3:20I picked it up.
3:20They were blocked off for some reason or another because I couldn't start the talk.
3:24So anyway, we had the conversation.
3:35I made notes the next morning so it would be hard to be happy because I thought you ought to have them.
3:44First of all, I want to make it clear.
3:46These are not my comments, and I don't necessarily subscribe to what was said.
3:48These are his.
3:48These are his.
3:48And I will indicate when I said something.
3:49Sure, sure.
3:50The first thing he said to me when we got back to the evidence of diving, he said, rather helpful ways.
3:55And I assume he was talking about the China visit in some part.
4:11And I said, well, I assume this was a very delicate thing about the China situation.
4:13Obviously, you have to be paid pretty close to the vest.
4:15Otherwise, we'll go to the ash can.
4:16So I was a little bit irritated.
4:16He said, I'm not talking about that.
4:17He said, it's the domestic program that's going on.
4:18So I kept still, but I just listened.
4:19He said, for example, please understand, I'm not being critical here.
4:21He said, for example, John Irving, charge of the whole domestic program.
4:27The problem is he's not a Seattle lawyer.
4:28This is the treatment made by John and his staff.
4:30He said it had been cavaliered.
4:32And he said, it's just been terrible.
4:46He said, we were elected to do something about this thing with this OEO.
4:49We're not doing it.
4:49He said, for example, Major Cranston, that's a fine thing.
4:51He said, that's a good program.
4:51We've got to go.
4:52But some of these other things that we were elected on, we were going to get rid of.
4:54Nothing's being done on the thing.
4:55He said, when I came in, he said, I was supposed to be involved in a lot of domestic programs.
4:58I've been a governor and the county executive.
4:59And the announcements were made.
4:59In fact, now I was going to be doing it.
5:01He said, I don't have anything to do on any of these things.
5:13The staff, our crew has taken over.
5:13He said they've been encouraged, the entire staff at the White House, to treat him as nobody since they know I'm not called off to be served.
5:17He gave an illustration of some advance out in Dallas on some flight that developed it.
5:22I don't have to be concerned with that.
5:37Or the vice president gets calls from staff, people over here, and almost like he's being ordered around like a flunky, apparently they get an instruction to get in touch with the vice president, and so they get in touch with him, and then everybody gets uptight.
5:44He said, for example, he said he got a call at 1.30 in the morning.
5:45He said, my military aide gets a call to the effect that the president was going to be made in the very important announcement.
5:48and to tell the vice president not to make any comment on it whatsoever.
5:56So Donald Schultz was the person who called.
5:57I don't know who called.
6:00He didn't tell me.
6:01I didn't cross his hand.
6:01Of course, he said, well, the vice president's asleep.
6:03He said, well, wake him up.
6:04This is important.
6:04So Donald...
6:11what the announcement was.
6:19Well, it was about the China situation.
6:20So then he said, for example, he said, I made a statement that I knew about the possibility of Dr. Kissinger going to China three weeks ago and it's been discussed.
6:26And he said, I can't say something.
6:40He has a face, he's hurt, he's crying.
6:42He says, and then what happens?
6:42He says, the lady from the White House issues a statement.
6:44He told me about something about that.
6:44And so I asked him, I said, well, who would make that statement?
6:46Well, I read it in the department.
6:46He said, it was John Scali.
6:47He did it.
6:47So I said, yeah, Scali did it.
6:48That's what he told me.
6:48So I said, well, now that he says that, he said, I am positive.
6:58So then he said that he had wanted to go to Greece, because his father had been born there, and he just told him he couldn't go to Greece.
7:16I said, well, I can see the possibility of why he should not go.
7:18Why he should not go to Greece is due to some question about the type of government there at the moment and all that sort of thing.
7:21Then he said he wanted to go to Peking and to Taiwan both.
7:22He said, no, you can't go to Peking and Taiwan.
7:27Well, I said, of course, if you're my president, it's not my place to say what should or should not be done.
7:43I'm not privy to these things that are going on over there.
7:44But I said, I can see as an outsider that the utmost secrecy would be required, that you are a marked man, if you're my president, and you couldn't possibly get in and out of China without the whole world knowing about it.
7:49My own personal thinking is that even the Secretary of State wouldn't have been able to do a thing like that.
7:51He'd have to run somebody.
7:52And somebody who isn't coming on the official side asks us, even though Dr. Kissinger obviously is ranking out as the spokesman of the White House for president.
8:11So then he says, well, I can't stand another four years of this.
8:12He says, I just have up to here.
8:13He says, I just can't take it any longer.
8:14He says, I will never hire a president, anyone at all.
8:15He says, I'll campaign for him.
8:15I'll do whatever he wants.
8:16I've done it.
8:16But he says, I cannot stand another four years.
8:17So knowing that he was up very tight, and because of what Bob Hill had said to me previously, which I'll get to in a moment, I said, well, Mr. Vice President, I said, you never want to do something that your enemies want you to do.
8:37Your enemies want you off the ticket.
8:38I said, there may be other people who are not your enemies who think it would be better that you're not on the ticket, but your enemies don't want you on the ticket.
8:42I said, for example, when Nick Timmons had an article where he came up with this idea that Hoover was going to resign as head of the FBI and that the
8:49I said, I'll give you something like that.
8:59I said, even if you announce to the whole world that you simply did not want to be vice president anymore, no one will believe it.
9:04I said, they will think that you were kicked off the ticket.
9:05Now, if they believe that, I said, people don't vote for a vice president or an heir.
9:08I said, he rides along.
9:08But I said, if a lot of people thought that you were treated shabbily in any way at all, no matter how you tried to dress up, they might sit on their hands, and it could possibly affect, adversely, the ticket.
9:26So my suggestion is, well, it's not my place to tell you what to do with the vice president, is, you know, just take it in grace and see what happens, and grind along, and so forth.
9:31I said, furthermore, this is what I said to him, I said, you know, being a vice president is an occupational hazard.
9:33I said, I know that there are other vice presidents out of St. Louis.
9:37the President hadn't treated me properly during the time that they were Vice President.
9:43So then he said, he said, well, it's obvious to me that the President must have
9:47He was the vice president.
10:00Otherwise, he wouldn't possibly be doing the things to me that he hadn't been doing.
10:02This guy's uptight.
10:03Now, remember, I have never been a buddy of the vice president.
10:04I've met in cash.
10:05And for him to talk to me this way, he wanted to get something off his chest.
10:06He said, there's so much going on in this administration, both domestically and internationally.
10:08And he said, I'm really not a part of it.
10:09Now, getting to the purpose of shutting out, he is near the breaking point on this thing, which makes you fear that he may say or do something that could be embarrassing.
10:27Bob Hill told me about when they had the dinner there in Shane, where the vice president and Prince John Carlos and so forth, that near the end of the dinner, the vice president got up from the dinner and motioned for the bill to be run out.
10:33So he went out into the hall, kind of looking...
10:35And the vice president says to Hill, and they're out here, and they have a group.
10:51He says, who's the chief of state here?
10:52She said, I don't know.
10:52You'd think he would know that.
10:53So Hill said, well, of course, that's what's on the front.
10:55The chief of state, Prince John Carlos, is scheduled to succeed him.
10:56And, of course, the vice president is here, so any toast that you might be offering, you must be certain, of course, that it wasn't the vice president of Spain.
10:59And Hill told me that the vice president turned and said, I did it.
11:04So we all could see that the guy was really, you know, up to the very top.
11:16So then he mentioned about the fact that some of his staff people had said to him, well, why don't you sit down and talk to the president about it?
11:21And I said, well, look, I said, I've got a few times with the president.
11:22What's the president going to say to you?
11:23He's going to say, gee, Ted, you're doing a great job.
11:24So that's what I told my staff.
11:25He said, they just don't seem to understand.
11:26So that was his whole tenor of the thing, that it is at a point where it is really rough.
11:42So I ended up, oh, by the way, he had told Hill, apparently, that sending Bryce Harlow with him was a way of indicating that they didn't trust the Vice President to say or do the right thing, and Bryce had been sent along to watch him and advise him.
11:49And his leaving from Korea and so forth is supposed to be a part of that setup.
12:06Well, I saw Bryce before I went to Europe.
12:08He was over at the U. Scott reception.
12:09And he sort of involuntarily said, well, I came on back.
12:10I said, I was like, really?
12:11He said, well, I came on back.
12:11I thought I got some extra club on the log.
12:13There's not much point, you know, in my going along.
12:14So then I ended up in a conversation with him towards the end.
12:19and that is
12:22Just take it in stride, it's an occupational hazard, being the vice president.
12:43And I said, may I remind you someday, if I'm still around, how you are treating your vice president.
12:45So he started to break up at that point, and I said to him, am I to consider this as a confidential conversation, or am I at liberty to use my judgment when I do it?
12:50He hesitated a moment, and he said, you do, let me give you the instructions of that question.
12:51Well, my judgment was that I'll share it.
13:04And I'm not here to give advice for Mary to report that this guy's going to be buttered up.
13:14Not on the question of whether he's on or off the ticket, but he might get so uptight that he might say or do something that could be harmful.
13:17So that's the purpose of my call.
13:17You know, we have a few of us on the phone.
13:18He starts to be quiet and sad and sad.
13:25You can't really believe it.
13:38I was trying.
13:38I mean, I knew he would run into this problem on a trip around the world.
13:40He didn't get some news.
13:40You know, he refused to do anything.
13:41You know, that's why he...
13:51They don't do that.
14:13They refuse to go to a hospital or refuse to do anything, you know.
14:14He just studied a little and he could see that the only way a vice president who never has anything substantive to do with a criminal can't have, because he just goes and holds hands and listens and so forth.
14:18He just wouldn't take it.
14:19Apparently he's got a staff problem there.
14:20But the main thing, I think, is that
14:21In terms of his, of how he's treated, I was thinking, he was thinking about the trips.
14:41You know, I've been about six trips around by his friend.
14:42You know, in that whole period of time, nobody ever came to the airport to meet me, except once.
14:44I had a hard day, after Latin America.
14:46My God, we send Rogers out each time.
15:04I go out for an hour.
15:05We do all this stuff.
15:05We're really doing everything we can.
15:06And he's terribly sensitive.
15:07I think his back is legally broken.
15:07Well, it's bad.
15:08But he doesn't know the history of the city.
15:09He doesn't know the history of what the situation is.
15:10Setting him on these trips, we really shouldn't, you know, just because he's not quite eligible.
15:12You know, due to the fact that he's fine on these trips.
15:17and where he's, you know, he comes out after meeting with the African cannibals and makes his comment about that.
15:35He's perfectly right.
15:36But, you know, so that's what happened.
15:37But the point is, was he good to help himself with it?
15:38I mean, the rednecks in the South, they don't like to say anything.
15:39So why not say something good about the African?
15:40They say, well, uh,
15:45It's this kind of thing that does present a problem.
16:05But DeFoto, of course, has been extremely loyal in terms of his campaign.
16:06He worked his butt off.
16:07His main problem, I think, Murray, is now it's almost a paranoid attitude on the press.
16:09He's just having fun.
16:10He probably didn't see them all the way around.
16:13He had DeFoto with him.
16:13Except once when he made this sort of comment.
16:15And, of course, they're going to stick up for that.
16:37And whether he's able to understand that, I feel exactly the same way about the presence he does.
16:39But the way you do it is true, rather than stay away from it, you know.
16:40And he's got to get some of that worked out.
16:41Whatever you're working on, I'll tell you, he's terribly, he is insensitive.
16:43He can't, he's got to understand, of course,
16:49The only effect on the staff that he mentioned was John.
17:05That's the only person that he mentioned.
17:18The others, he just whacked them.
17:18You know, he said, I got to call my staff.
17:19You know, he puts it that way.
17:20And he said it in German.
17:20And he named his guy Mr. Ray.
17:21Yeah, he named him Mr. Ray.
17:25And I'll tell you, Vic Gold, the night before his travel, the press man, told me that he was satisfied.
17:28I said, gee, what did he do?
17:28He said, well, he said, someday I'll tell you.
17:29So they're convinced that it is Scali.
17:30But that started out...
17:31I was going to say, we got Scali in while he was here yesterday, and I gave Scali instructions to knock down the story about Lucy, that terrible story we had.
17:51Lucy, what about her?
17:51Well, it's just a bad rap, and as Scali said, so I gave him instructions.
17:53I didn't realize that Scali was the man, because he said, I'll write you a number.
17:55Now, the only thing that concerns me about the whole thing is if he were to make an announcement, that he will not be able to take it where it's his choice.
18:00Frankly, I think it hurts us.
18:13I'm not saying he should be on or off.
18:13That's not my province.
18:18But it would look like there was a rift no matter how you dressed it up.
18:19And he's in a frame of mind where I'm a little concerned about it.
18:21I'm glad that you had Secretary Rogers and Cabinet people out to greet him.
18:22You know, he came back.
18:23So I don't want him to greet the Secretary.
18:24Yeah, I accept it all.
18:28Well, you know what to do about it.
18:41Let me, uh, yeah, let me suggest this, uh, to, on the conversation, uh, why don't you, you know, the other one I, uh, the one you could report it to would be our, uh, Mitchell.
18:44I mean, you, you, you're working with Mitchell on something.
18:46Well, as a matter of fact, there's been a cutoff in his office.
18:47Well, there has been, I don't know.
18:49I can't believe he's under the impression that I should not be him, and I refuse to claim to get him.
19:07I'm available, and I don't have to be coached.
19:08And actually, I'm doing very well, and I can afford to have him back here.
19:11Well, I know that.
19:11You know, I tried to see John about five, six different times, and I got no response.
19:16So I'm not complaining about this recording.
19:16That's something that's doing well.
19:17However, if you want me to make contact with him, I will.
19:36Let me have him call you.
19:36That's what we'll be able to do.
19:39Please understand, I'm not playing.
19:39I know you're not, but let me ask that.
19:40That's much the better way to do it, though.
19:41That's much the better way to do it, very much the better way to do it.
19:43We had that one job, because we got these people to do it at a later time.
19:50I don't know.
20:19.
20:22.
20:22.
20:28.
20:29.
20:37.
20:40.
20:50I must say, I can do everything we can.
21:19We have...
21:21And we've had him more socially, we've had him use camp data, you know, we've had him use, you know, we've given him all the personal purposes that, frankly, I never got.
21:39But he's horrible at night.
21:39Yeah.
21:39I'll be certain.
21:40Okay.
21:40He didn't really understand why he didn't go to the meeting.
21:45As a matter of fact, when I did explain, I said, you're a marked man.
22:02I said, you can't get out of a country without the whole world knowing it.
22:04But he didn't press the point.
22:05But he didn't press the point.
22:06He wasn't.
22:06We couldn't have that because of us.
22:07I'm sorry.
22:08I'm sorry.
22:08I'm sorry.
22:08I'm sorry.
22:09I'm sorry.
22:09I'm sorry.
22:20He's going all out.
22:22He misses me.
23:19Good morning, friends.
23:43This is Tommy Tate.
23:43I'm surrounded by Tate.
23:44Who's Tate?
23:44I am.
23:44I am.
23:44I am.
23:44I am.
23:45I am.
23:45I am.
23:45I am.
23:45I am.
23:45I am.
23:58So I don't believe him.
24:18He just got confused.
24:18Are you very open to him?
24:19Certainly.
24:19They start busting at your distance.
24:20You say, well, let's take it.
24:21And the message you're giving me, I say, well, you can't just throw that one.
24:23That's right.
24:23That's right.
24:23That's right.
24:24I didn't.
24:24Roll over.
24:24Roll over.
24:24That sounds good.
24:29We better get it pretty fast before we get lunch.
24:53They were renting a leech.
24:53Remember when we went into it?
24:5446, 929.
25:14Hey, Brad.
25:22We're horrible.
25:23We're horrible.
25:23We're terrible.
25:23We're terrible.
25:24We're terrible.
25:26No, I wasn't.
25:44He's out of the game.
25:50And, uh, wasn't, uh, Jim, Jimmy, Vince, and I have about three or four years.
25:53Oh, yeah.
25:54Yeah.
25:54Right after the war.
25:54Yeah.
25:54Yeah.
25:54Yeah.
25:54Yeah.
25:55Yeah.
25:55Were you still in the house when you were fighting with American Relations over Pennsylvania?
26:16Yes, sir.
26:16I was in the house regarding that.
26:17I'd love to hear there was another video.
26:18Yes, sir.
26:18That's right.
26:18I remember what that was like.
26:19You know, it was a hell of a fight.
26:20And we thought we'd all get beaten by it.
26:21We had to fight.
26:21I think there were 50-some-odd numbers.
26:22That's right.
26:22And there's not a lot of ones that beat Linda.
26:28That was the genesis of the Charter Marching thing.
26:37And for Jackson and Moran, I saw about that, and I talked about that, and all of us, I mean, Jackson and Lindy, it was really, it was not, it was just,
26:49Kennedy coined that dollar, and the cargo supposedly retired this year, so if I get reelected, I'll be the only survivable.
26:58Does that party a great little group?
27:05Well, let me say that I'm glad...
27:33That's right.
27:36All right.
28:22Well, I think that the only thing wrong with Don is that he passed before you did, Mitch.
28:44I think you ought to be on the other side.
28:45You've got to go this way or that way.
28:46Mr. President, do you ever feel we've passed?
28:47Since we've been running the thing, it has been formally announced.
28:48Yes, sir.
28:48And we haven't been careful, and we don't think we have been extravagant or...
28:50We can't sit and let a lady lose her husband in this town or Kevin for all this money that somebody don't offer.
29:08And we can't let our boys go to school get such a small amount of money that it isn't a bad thing.
29:14raised the education rate about 33%.
29:27And there's still some complaint among our members that we didn't raise it enough.
29:31We did all the scholarships, we did all the schools across the country, from the cheapest public school to the highest private school.
29:35And we tried to get a balance of what to not pay all the way for a boy from the school to pay enough that if he wants to go, he can go.
29:38There's a word on the side.
30:00Since we've increased our pension compensation, there's probably about 10% increase in cost of living.
30:02And we've got to look at that.
30:02And one of the reasons we talk about you just leaves in the back of the world of danger, talking about millions and millions and millions of dollars.
30:05We've had the last few years, we've had the last few years, we've had the last few years,
30:10But we do have to look at our hospitals.
30:33I was talking to Don a minute ago.
30:34These quarters out here, Preston, Arizona, where our building is at present, I tell you, it was a train stop back.
30:57Preston, Preston, Arizona.
30:57You got the hospital out in New York.
30:58It wasn't a hospital.
30:58How old is it?
30:59About 90 years old?
30:59About 90 years old.
30:59Cover-ups.
31:00It was built originally in New York.
31:00And it's very good.
31:01We do need a plan for renovation and new hospitals.
31:02And I assume they've got some kind of plan.
31:06We'll be very close in 1973 to...
31:35Let's see, Justin, what you had, the committee had one-to-one in psychiatric and two-to-one.
31:57And General Michael said, you know, didn't you, Max, say you'd come up with almost the same figures?
31:59Yes, sir.
31:59Sure.
31:59This is something that we have.
32:00This is something I think Donald will already have.
32:01We're going to push very hard on him from the budget standpoint to be sure that we get quality care.
32:03That is not as high as we possibly can.
32:04I'm trying to give a lot of emphasis to that.
32:05I think we must be certain that the kind of directive control I can just get in.
32:20The reason it was put on, Tom, for us, because we, to begin with, this was before, of course, before he came in as President of Ohio, and it was just not to recover, to recover.
32:27I understand the heart patients
32:57with the same illness will stay longer in a veteran's hospital than he will in a general hospital because he's farther away from home.
33:17Three police, several hundred miles from home, and he can't go home as soon as he could if he were in that hospital.
33:19So, Congressman, we've got this down to that major factor in something that does a lot more damage than he does.
33:22That's fair enough.
33:22But the only difference between a private and a VA hospital
33:27that the doctor ordinarily does in his own office.
33:49The lab testing is going on over time, about 24, 48 hours.
33:50Speaking of something, before we got away from the hospital, I noticed that he had agreed to go to work on something on that forward facility that, you know, we had in Nashville.
33:53Our doctor comes in, he just comes in, and everybody, I thought he was upset and said,
33:55I don't want to talk about the house.
34:14Now, last year, you people added another $50,000 that you sent your budget up.
34:16Then we added about another $105,000.
34:17And George's people then goes and tells Don that you can't use any of this money for recurring costs, which means that they did not hire any staff.
34:20It was $155,000 last year.
34:21None of that money was staffed.
34:22Now, we've done about the same thing this year.
34:23I hope George can hear me.
34:23I'm going to have to hire more people.
34:24We've put in $8,000.
34:24I'm going to have to hire more people.
34:265,000 people.
34:4986,000.
34:4986,000.
34:49What is the greatest thing?
34:50Let me drag out the broad aspects.
34:51What is the greatest thing in the rest of time?
34:52The facilities.
34:52The facilities.
34:52Yes.
34:52But you mentioned some of these.
34:53Yes.
34:53We have to have some kind of a renovation program.
34:54Renovation or a village.
34:55Right.
34:55We have to build a building in California.
34:56Is that correct?
34:56We've got that whole Southern California plan with you now, and I think yours has it, too.
35:18And that's a big involved project, which I think here's another one.
35:20There's another one, too.
35:20I figure I have something under consideration.
35:21We've got a hotel complex under consideration.
35:22There's one.
35:22My God, that thing was built 70 years ago, too.
35:23And it's been around.
35:30You're then saying the more sensitive problem is rather than building to staff.
35:48Do you agree with that?
35:49Well, I think we're approaching the staffing ratio that would be in the flexibility in which we've been able and which we've gotten each year through seven, which we brought up to you, to new modalities of care that I think is a facility.
35:55Mine is the one that is of major concern because it's such a
35:58proposition from when you get the word go to finally get somebody to sell it.
36:13But we have at least 8 to 12 areas or hospitals that need major renovation or replacement, like the Bronx is.
36:19If I had my brothers, that would be the number one to be replaced in this country.
36:22I think I heard, uh,
36:54has been to say that we want to do the absolute best job we can for veterans with service-connected disabilities, number one.
37:14Number two, we want to do absolutely the best job we can for Vietnam veterans.
37:16And the thing that we're trying to be careful of is that
37:39The number of vets are expected.
37:46The load has gone up, and they've pushed us on that very hard.
37:52But I think there's a concentration of service connected on Vietnam, something we felt deserved to have a great emphasis.
38:00that's something we've worked on very hard.
38:20I recognize your problem.
38:20We've given, we've given some ground up.
38:21At the same time, we've tried to do everything.
38:22Our fear is we may not wind up doing as well as we should with these first priorities.
38:24The bad thing, Peter, is that what you do, see, another track closed, under 10-15 knots, which was...
38:29They're telling them to move that down 5,000 beds, which is 10,500 dead hospitals.
38:46And they've got plans to go down to 6,800 or 6,800.
38:47George, I haven't been able to get it from you or from the committee.
39:16No, the same actor, Jack.
39:29I've seen likes out of this Jack Ashton.
39:31I mean, two versions of Jack Ashton.
39:32Hey, the number of circles.
39:34I've seen the Armageddon Reserve Commission, the people of the one-legged community of Jordan's Heaven.
39:36Yeah, well, uh, could we look at a couple things here?
39:37Do we really have a long term...
39:46In terms of that
40:13We ought to take a pretty hard, we really ought to take a long-term look at the whole hospital program
40:49On the other hand, if you could have a program which really looked to the future, say, look, over five years, ten years, ten years from now, Vietnam winners, and then say, over the next ten years, we're going to do this, this, this, this, this, and people would say that instead of artists on a hit and miss, that's what really, I think, you're hitting on here.
41:11Johnson took a look at it, and he has a budget problem, and we've got a budget problem, so John said, all right, we'll cut here, so we say, look, cut here.
41:22And we deal with that.
41:37That's facilities.
41:39The other thing, of course, has to do with personnel.
41:40Now, the personnel thing is, it's something else that we, I think we've got to, at least who follows George, and I think Don will agree, they probably know more about this than most of us.
41:44They've forgotten more than most of us will ever know.
41:47You've probably seen, you're familiar with Michael, and it's one of our agent commanders.
41:52years and uh i'd like to take a hard look first now you actually will help us you know we've got a health problem we'd like to do more in fact we appreciate the fact that you have resisted both of you and ordered the demands but i have to i i do not want particularly with regard to the budget in this period of time that was on me that was on me
42:28that American servicemen are savage, dope baddies, and so forth and so on, and, uh, uh, sadistical, uh, that, uh, they're a low breed, and they're dropouts rather than the intellectuals that stay here and grow beards and down straight and try to tear down the bush.
42:53Uh, I don't know why they think they're better than the nevertheless most do, but nevertheless, if you look at the whole proposition, you have a major attack
43:02due to the fact that there's a frustration over Vietnam.
43:21And it goes even beyond that.
43:22Unless Vietnam is over, the United States want to get the hell out of every place.
43:23They want to get out of the world.
43:24They want to turn in.
43:25They want the United States to be a great power.
43:25They don't want us to have a presence in Europe.
43:26They don't want us to have a presence in Asia.
43:27You and I know this can't happen.
43:28What's all this got to do with this?
43:29What it has to do with this is that there is basically, we all hear about the pro-veterans lie.
43:32But there's a hell of an anti-veterans lobby now in this country.
43:44It's an anti-veterans lobby.
43:44And sure, you talk about the votes we can get.
43:45You always get votes for hospitals and the rest.
43:47What I'm getting at is that I think that, and this expresses my own views and convictions, I do believe.
44:01a bunch of bums in the public mind.
44:19They come back, they go out and serve, and it's like World War II when everybody served, unless he, you know, had something wrong with them.
44:22Hell, these are the poor guys who got out there, and then the privileged kids found a college, you know, and took 18 more degrees or something, and they had an appointed service to demonstrate against the government.
44:27So not for that.
44:27So I think the veterans should have an answer to that proposition.
44:29Second, one, will you give them an
44:33And that's doing pretty good, isn't it?
44:52I think that's one job statistic that is better, isn't it?
44:53Yes, sir.
44:55It's very good, isn't it?
44:55We don't, we want to, now, in terms of the, in terms of the, in terms of this, I want to, I want to approach it in a way that we can, we can solve in the country as a, a long-term solution.
45:02where we're looking at the facilities, we're looking at the treatment, and in a way, which is different.
45:17Now, there's a point of view that goes the other way, and I realize this too.
45:20And frankly, it was quite prevalent in the 50s, and the point of view was that since Mary
45:33As far as the Vietnam veterans, everybody hasn't been a veteran.
45:46And the Vietnam veterans have taken a bad rap.
45:47And you agree?
45:47I agree.
45:47And the thing is, they're trying to attack the armed services.
45:49I must say.
45:51who's in the Navy and so forth.
46:06So, you know, it's very hard for these kids that are in the Navy and the Army and the Air Force and the guys that happen to have the numbers to get called.
46:13And I think of the other kids in our unit, I say, I'm not against the kids in our unit.
46:15You know, that's the law.
46:15But I do feel that we have, we're going to keep some spirit, some in this country of willingness to maintain the minimum forcefulness
46:23to play a peace-keeping role in the world, that we've got to change the attitude toward, first, going into the Armed Services in the first instance, and second, if you're a kid, and if you do happen to be done with all the services and so forth, that you are properly treated.
46:44And that's just a little edge.
46:45That's what 380A is all about, right?
46:45It's an edge.
46:46And I can
46:54I mean, it's a terrible problem.
47:13And frankly, I must say, there are a lot of other places that we're constantly concerned in.
47:15Rather than here, I think we can.
47:15And I think I have a long-term program looking at this problem.
47:17I guess it's been studied and studied and studied, but looking at it in the light of the new situation, looking at it, we know what's left from World War I.
47:20We know what's left from World War
47:24Mr. President, immediately after I came on board, we did make such a study.
47:44All we had to do was update it with some new input.
47:46With the thought in mind, going into the year 2000, with the changing modalities of health delivery, of the nursing care, the extended care, as most of us on World War II get older, all of these things are wrapped into this study.
47:52And I think we are rapidly approaching a few times when I talk about a study, and they're on a facility study, that all we need to do, in fact, is ask our suppliers or our suggestions of ours on the facility thing.
48:17And I think that what we need to do really is to incorporate
48:21What role will VA's play in VA medicine, but in the overall national health strategy that is going to be developed in this decade by the executive and by the Congress?
48:40You're working with the new health doctor over there.
48:42We've attempted to observe that it hasn't been a high-level test.
48:50strong conservative thought.
49:00I mean, I think he, I don't know how he feels about this problem, but I think he'd be all right.
49:04I think he'd be a good businessman, but I think this is all what I understand.
49:05You haven't talked with him about it, and let's be sure that there's a, because there is a tendency, I must say, for the professional medical guy to say, well, I'm going to help you preserve the service for the health of the nurse, right?
49:12But they are classed apart in this instance for very good reasons.
49:14I think there are other good reasons, though.
49:17that you yourself have set up a system that's a VA hospital system that's a nationwide system, a national resource.
49:40Our affiliations with any one of the medical schools in the country.
49:41Yeah, that's very important.
49:42All of that is attributed to medical.
49:42It's one of the indirect ways that you support members.
49:44You started to say something.
49:44We have an area of movement for veterans in rural areas.
49:46where the money's not available.
50:01Take a $600 million revolving fund.
50:02This broker's making a profit of over $100 million.
50:03Only 12 weeks out, we got a police problem.
50:06This year, out of the clear blue sky, they didn't get a chance.
50:08And we didn't.
50:08Figures are weak, and we don't understand them.
50:09We're all weak now.
50:09Tell me if you'd like to pack that system, and I'll also give you an answer on what's going to happen.
50:13Well, I may have disagreed, Mr. President, with the approach that was done.
50:34I do agree with the objective, and that was that we had a limitation on our direct loan paper that we could not be sold at less than 90% of our.
50:37It's the only direct paper in the government that was so effective.
50:38There is now, and there has to soon be, and it's now the only bill that removes that limitation.
50:40The moment that since it is administration-sponsored, I'm assuming that you're going to recommend it, or something like that,
50:44At the moment of that, if you do sign this, sir, we will be reinstituting the direct loan program.
51:00Okay, yes, sir.
51:03And, uh, good.
51:03And I don't know why you're talking like this.
51:04Well, you know, it's good.
51:04It's not a scam.
51:05It's good in the process.
51:05I'm just trying to disappoint your drug abuse message.
51:07You think that he's going to take his wallet back?
51:08He's already said he's going to do something about patterns and drugs.
51:16where you kind of leaped on with the, which I'm interested in, not much.
51:33Well, you might be able to move on too, because there's a couple of questions.
51:36I think, I don't know if you disagree, as I did before, I disagree with some of the mechanical operations.
51:38As far as I understand, the president has told me, you've got to pack up on into the short step, whatever money was needed, but
51:42With you, I do want to say that this party, this development, this, um, we insisted that you be a part of that.
51:57You were in the meeting, right?
51:57Yes, we're all, God's all part of the, uh, of the drill here.
51:59But if there's, uh, uh, if I have to make one matter, we have to.
52:01You said you didn't have enough facility.
52:11You needed more, remember?
52:12Is there a VA?
52:12In fact, Jack pointed this out.
52:14He said the GAPA just didn't have them.
52:15And I don't think I hear the third.
52:16If the drug abuse message was wrong, or at least it's funny, there's certainly no intention of not using VA. As a matter of fact, it's
52:24We don't have people that do this job.
52:39But I can ask you, Mr. President, I can't go overpowering some of the people in the government who have really turned the bus on.
52:42You've been doing that, haven't you?
52:43Yeah, and they're doing it now.
52:45We now have banking centers in operation, and there will be eight more by October 1st.
52:47It just matters some simple remodeling of facilities.
52:48And along that stretch, I thought,
53:02basically have just added another man later on bureaucracy.
53:20But the purpose was to take all the armistice orders of this government and do them more effectively.
53:22Now on the B-8 then, I really feel, I'd like for Chappie to read Chappie this evening.
53:23I'm just thinking, Chappie's, you know, he hasn't seen me, but he has that book for me.
53:25And his testimony, Mr. Bernice, he said he's going to take a lot of jobs in Washington, and he's going to take a little bit higher, and I have to run the show.
53:29I see.
53:38Actually, there's a problem.
53:42Well, there must be.
53:43I know there's a lot of people who try to do that, but I'm just going to give you a shot.
53:45Let's just see if it's wrong.
53:45Kathy's a very go-go kind of a guy, but so are you.
53:46Now, you fellows, I want you to sit down.
53:47I want you to sit down with the two T's, and let's see if you have this damn thing straight.
53:56If there's any, if you have any problems on this, Tom, you see, you know what I mean?
54:06Just speak up on it.
54:07I particularly don't want to see,
54:12But you've got old facilities that could be used and personnel and upgraded and get a double shot at them.
54:24That's my point.
54:25No, I don't see this as an L.A. for B.A., but I know.
54:26So you've got 19 B.A.
54:26centers.
54:26I know the ocean tendency as well.
54:29We'll go out, we'll go to Brantley, we'll go to another call, drug addicts and all.
54:31That isn't any good in my opinion.
54:46Let's use our hospital.
54:47Let's use the VA. Let's use all the rest.
54:48There's trouble with this government every time we have a new problem.
54:49We said, well, we've got to build a whole new building.
54:50And there are wonderful guys, good, dedicated people.
54:52You've got psychiatrists, haven't you?
54:53Yes, sir.
54:53Of course we've got to have them, because their psychiatry problems are a hell of a lot worse than drug problems, you know, people who have been in the war.
54:58The only thing I'm very honest with, sir, is that we're going into the paper.
55:00I was supposed to do what we're called in the program.
55:04And it's short-term leases and absolutely minimum money that's involved.
55:22You have a good doctor?
55:26Yes, sir.
55:26Your shop?
55:26Yes, sir.
55:26How close is somebody's got to be to hospitals?
55:27They don't have to be close at all.
55:28What we have to do is, the hospital stays the first day.
55:30It's after we get them stabilized, detoxified and stabilized, that if you have one methadone, you have to dispense it once a day until
55:33And it's a birth tube, some counseling rooms, a place to leave a urine sample, and to... Have you seen Jack?
55:52Excuse me.
55:52Now, this is a urethra.
55:53This is a hand probe, you know, with a probe tube.
55:54It's a probe that's on the wall.
55:55And he's a great young guy, isn't he?
56:03If you listen to CBS, 50% of all veterans in Vietnam, all people in Vietnam are on heroin.
56:21So he estimated before he went to 10% were on heroin.
56:22He went out there and found that at the very outside, there might be 4%, 4%.
56:24So the problem is not as great and significant, but not all that great.
56:25But it's that expensive.
56:26The second point is, though, that they have developed, and this is the best thing about it,
56:32I mean, they develop things, you know, to handle a boat that's got a foot problem or something else.
56:49But one of the good things about this is that Kathy says they have already developed, as a result of just working here in a controlled atmosphere, they have developed some fascinating new methods, one for planning out a product and a second for treatment.
56:57So what could come out of this whole hullabaloo
57:03Because I don't need to tell you two thoughts.
57:18The drug problem is not a Vietnam problem at all.
57:25It is a service problem in Europe at all.
57:27But it's a youth problem all over this country, and it isn't just black kids.
57:28They're out in Beverly Hills and Santa Barbara, right?
57:29Sure.
57:29And ATW.
57:29Mr. Barrett, I think we should go take a look at that Fort Worth facility.
57:31I think there's some, maybe some progress that I can make.
57:40And I said, I'm going to Fort Worth tomorrow, and I've got to say something down there.
57:59And he said, well, you can say that Fort Worth, Dallas, Farragate will have as good a drug organization as you can have, but he didn't want to say anything about the Fort Worth facility.
58:08I think it would be very good while we're talking about this.
58:36Do you have Duval?
58:47Do you do?
58:48I couldn't get the object in them up to my office to launch my lesson.
58:49Sure, I can't get Duval.
58:50Yes, you have to.
58:51My money should be there to be around.
58:51This Duval is a perfect copy.
58:52I know I have.
58:52I'll leave you with something.
58:53I have a good deal.
58:53I'm not going to steal it.
58:54I don't have it.
58:58It's not better in this field than any, say, of the nation in Drumfield.
59:14And there's a lot of other things.
59:14There's two vows to help a guy.
59:15And also, I'd like for two vows to get the field.
59:18You see, he's the advisor to our minister.
59:19Take him to get the field of the veteran side of it.
59:20You know, got no doctor can really get the field of it unless he sits in.
59:21But you know that?
59:22And you count it.
59:22You guys count it now.
59:22So that he knows what that is.
59:27or something else.
59:44But I'd like to get Mr. Bell as a realist, good guy.
59:45When we came home, you said on a training camp, or we had a service.
59:46Today, when they come home, when they go there, then they're usually out of service.
59:49Now, we have put, in the beginning of the proposal,
1:00:03the same type of thing he said in West Germany.
1:00:11We raised this entire thing.
1:00:24This was raised, in fact, as a result of what your committee did.
1:00:27It was raised at a meeting where Hotch, your member, was in and all the rest.
1:00:30And I said, by God, let's do this.
1:00:31It's just terrible to take these kids, and none particularly, on a labor market.
1:00:33A labor market that is not as...
1:00:39World War II, you didn't have an escalation.
1:00:59Well, you didn't really have one at all because Korea came so soon.
1:01:00You didn't have an escalation as far as unemployment was concerned.
1:01:02It was around 4% you could call.
1:01:02So it stocked them up.
1:01:03But now you're on these kids' backs in the labor market where you've got a climate rate of 5.6 or so.
1:01:05It's complicated.
1:01:05Mr. President, what do you think of the birdie thing that you've got there next?
1:01:07The birdie thing that...
1:01:16You know what I mean?
1:01:31I don't want to hear it.
1:01:32All I want is to get these boys all together.
1:01:33I mean, again, by the time I'm in Germany, I can read it.
1:01:34And South Vietnam.
1:01:34I mean, South Vietnam is where he was.
1:01:35I mean, I can't believe it.
1:01:36I know he's going to be out in a couple of weeks.
1:01:37Instead of just going out and drinking beer, he goes down and learns something.
1:01:38What is it?
1:01:39And I understand also where he's been swamped with kids that he could.
1:01:40Tell me, do they learn something in that?
1:01:41Yes.
1:01:47before would you agree to
1:02:20This week, yes, this happens sometimes on my street.
1:02:43I heard that you mentioned a long one, and I would ask if you concur with the two.
1:02:45I don't expect that today because the pressure, this is a building program in Southern California to take care of some of the problems in Brentwood, Westworth, other areas.
1:02:48The pressures would be tremendous if there was any real leak on it.
1:02:50I do see that.
1:02:58.
1:03:16.
1:03:16.
1:03:32and save it any place.
1:03:44We've got to make it worthwhile.
1:03:46You see, that's the reason why the cop-out resolutions are so wrong.
1:03:48If they don't get rid of the war, Jesus, if they get rid of that war, you can't even tell the mothers and the fathers and the widows of 45,000 Americans saying, you fought an immoral war which failed.
1:03:54That's a great thing to tell them, huh?
1:04:14Yeah.
1:04:14It'll do, though, if you give me a hand on this.
1:04:16I'm getting tried as the war criminal was Saturday night on the steps of the... Well, I know.
1:04:18Let me say, if you want to work with you, and I do, and I know your responsibility, because they said you took the lead.
1:04:21See, now you're dead.
1:04:21And he's a hero.
1:04:21He's a great war veteran.
1:04:23all the time attacking him.
1:04:36So we gave that law to Jackson and the rest of us, you know.
1:04:37Mr. Jackson, I think, would have been in the war.
1:04:38I mean, he wasn't in the war.
1:04:39He wasn't in the war.
1:04:39I think I must have won the war, like, with the closing of the Amendment for Money for Hospice.
1:04:41There you go.
1:04:41I want to give you a couple of credits to take a walk here.
1:04:58I think you'd have to go right to your wife's.
1:05:19This is for Secretary.
1:05:19It's the case that they would like to have a cigarette.
1:05:20I usually let you burn my balls.
1:05:21Oh, okay.
1:05:21I've got, I've got, you've got to burn my balls.
1:05:22All right.
1:05:22I only give these to you because I didn't care.
1:05:23You can get another panel.
1:05:24Thank you very much.
1:05:24Secretary, this is something new.
1:05:25This is a little takeaway.
1:05:25Thank you, President.
1:05:26Let me see.
1:05:31I don't think they've done anything.
1:05:50Don't worry about it.
1:05:50It's the end of that work, Colonel.
1:05:51Oh, I'll submit you.
1:05:51Hold on.
1:05:51I didn't have a fee.
1:05:52They had a record for me.
1:05:52I don't think they've done anything.
1:05:55Yeah, thanks for your good job.
1:07:05You may not be able to get him back.
1:07:21We're trying to locate Anderson now.
1:07:22Marko asked if he could.
1:07:23He was here at this time.
1:07:23He said he couldn't come back.
1:07:42Mr. President, we sent, just for your information, we sent a letter in your name, a formal one that doesn't preclude a handwritten letter.
1:08:02Yeah, I understand.
1:08:02Just in case he refers to it so that you're aware of it right after we came back.
1:08:04I expected one at dawn.
1:08:04Yeah, and I just want you to be aware of it.
1:08:06Incidentally, Rush has concluded the agreement at just one point, which is up to us to be settled.
1:08:12And he said if anyone had told him three months ago that such a good agreement was possible, he would have said it was crazy.
1:08:20We'll never get credit for that, but that was a major achievement.
1:08:31Now the problem is how the circus is enough to ask your answers.
1:08:32How the circus is no one knows if it is done.
1:08:41Well, we'll work it out.
1:08:52Let me tell you about it.
1:08:53It was that Russian.
1:09:24I'm deeply grateful, Brian, for the role you played in the recent incident.
1:09:46Actually, the role of President Yaya is somewhat known.
1:09:47But I am aware of the fact that you were among the three of us in this room.
1:09:48We're the only ones.
1:09:49Except for him, he's a man of hate.
1:10:08We're the only ones who knew of the first message that you delivered.
1:10:09It seems like three generations ago, again, it must have been two months ago, that you delivered to him and brought it up to me in my bedroom and read it to me.
1:10:12And since then, of course, you've been kind of seeing it again.
1:10:14I think the thing that is really impressive to us
1:10:26This is vital importance to be handled in such great discretion, great judgment.
1:10:49Thank you.
1:10:55I also realize that there are people who do put the, you know, the interests of future generations ahead of the immediate consequences next.
1:11:15And also to have this happen at a time when your country is under rather malicious attack against some of our interests, perhaps an attack which I know and I'm sure you realize that we, I personally am,
1:11:20trying as long as we possibly can to mute how we can get it muted of course is a problem I told Fargo yesterday though that we told him in the background and to get some of the true facts out regarding what the government is doing is a huge problem and to get some balance into it but in any
1:12:00I'll tell you personally how grateful we are.
1:12:19You will get credit only in history books, but I want you to know that I know where the credit walks.
1:12:22It's been designed to feel very generous.
1:12:22I suppose I didn't really want anybody in my position to expect it to do anything of the importance of this.
1:12:27It was not me.
1:12:28It was, you know, Andy preserving a secret.
1:12:29It was...
1:12:33me about the cessation of the position of the office.
1:12:49I have constantly wondered and regretted and even resented at how difficult the international relations have become, on account of the fact that the greatest power in the world was not on speaking terms with the largest nation in the world.
1:12:57At every turn in every country I have worked in, it has created conflict.
1:13:02happened to become friendly with each other and ourselves, made overtures to each other, as long as twelve years ago, and that was misunderstood throughout, by everybody, including, by both friends and acquaintances.
1:13:27And then, so that was such an obstacle.
1:13:28Whichever country I was working, conducting relations on behalf of my country, that it was an obsession with us Pakistanis, in a lot of ways.
1:13:31We'll talk this week, we'll bring about some kind of a change in the acting of the bridge of thoughts.
1:13:42I did move in this matter long ago, so I took it up with President Ayub.
1:13:46And he was worried whether we had the
1:13:49this status or the capability to play this part.
1:14:03And then, of course, he had been, a lot of advisors around him who had sort of sold the idea to him that we should burn up, he would burn up if we interfere in between the three world powers and so on.
1:14:13So he wouldn't agree, he wouldn't touch it as he kept on telling me more than once.
1:14:15I think Vishwanath has done that.
1:14:20I was an ambassador there.
1:14:34I remember being at the exhibition booths on the fringes of Uttar Pradesh.
1:14:41And we were having that talk.
1:14:42I was there on the Uttar Pradesh location.
1:14:43Your ambassador was, my colleague was, Tom Thompson.
1:14:44And we were there to ask that he can do a spotting.
1:14:45So then it was, but then I took it up again when President Yahya came in.
1:14:47And there was the same opposition from our foreign office.
1:14:50We would be most risky.
1:14:58They were, to my surprise, they were worried not only that we may not be able to do anything, but they thought the Chinese would not do anything.
1:15:11And I kept on... We know how to deal with the Chinese.
1:15:12They want you to put all the cards on the table, and if you are straightforward, and if you explain to them that we are doing this, would you like us to do it?
1:15:16We would not do it.
1:15:17and make a move when we would like to.
1:15:34We have been talking to both the States and the Americans in President Johnson's times, trying to put in a good word for each other, but can we take the Chinese into consideration?
1:15:38Well, I must say that unless President Yahya had agreed, well, nothing would have happened, because the attitude of the advisors around him in the beginning just was like Firoz's game on his visit.
1:15:42And it wasn't exactly the same.
1:15:54But by that time, he accepted my advice.
1:16:00And he knew I had been pressing for a long time.
1:16:01And he decided he would move to the subject with Secretary Ross.
1:16:04So after that, thanks to your encouragement and after your wise guidance and advice, the thing then moved forward very freely.
1:16:07But this is what we discovered with the Chinese.
1:16:08And I like that a lot.
1:16:18Sweden, then the Swedish-Chinese investment, Sweden then to Pakistan after that, then in London and so on.
1:16:40They seem to have this fixation that if you make out a case to them and put your cards on the table, afterwards keep them informed that if you want to make any change, that you feel anything you want to do might give you a sense of the association.
1:16:46If you send a message to them in advance, look, I'm going to do this, it's for this reason.
1:17:09Do not misunderstand.
1:17:10They take it very well.
1:17:10And they understand me, particularly Chawla.
1:17:11They've really got a true mother.
1:17:12Yes, we met him.
1:17:12And others have met him.
1:17:12And our ambassador, the UN ambassador, Shafi, has been at all the foreign conferences with Chawla.
1:17:14He's been on the visit of President Biden, President Bush, and so on.
1:17:16and together I've been there during all those discussions.
1:17:35So this is what we are talking about this week.
1:17:36And I think this week, particularly in the fall, as you know, I think it's not just a lack of tech managers, but a lot of people understand this, and don't be something that catches much surprise.
1:17:39They're very disappointed.
1:17:40The other team just now finally made a very humble suggestion.
1:17:41It's now on this thing they've come up with.
1:17:44Immediately in front of you is the decision about the UN and the Chinese city of China, the vote, the procedure.
1:18:01Because immediately after that, we're going to have the election of a Secretary-General, of a new Secretary-General.
1:18:05Most probably, I don't think this move to draft a new government will succeed or at least succeed or not.
1:18:10Now, normally this question would come up, or the Chinese question would come up about November, but this year I understand it's going to be taken up, end of the general debate, which is held in October, because the Albanians and others who sponsored, they want to take it up early.
1:18:35And the reason being, they wanted to influence the Secretary General's election, which will come up in November.
1:18:37Now, it will be a big day.
1:18:38I mean, I don't know what we're going to do about the city of China, but assuming that China is like this, or even assuming that China is like this, I don't know.
1:19:04I think that's a good point.
1:19:05I think that's a good point.
1:19:05I think that's a good point.
1:19:06I think that's a good point.
1:19:12for us to, I can't read it, to your channel, there's a way to shape it and handle this, is to say, we would need to be sure that the man, we eventually, this eventually becomes the Secretary General, it's not one of his persona, rather than that, right, would be very, very important.
1:19:39And it makes sense to them, saying that now they have to select a man in the draft, but if you don't want this
1:19:45And even if it was to even go further and say, we are thinking of this one, two, three, have you, would you like to express anything?
1:20:06Would you like to, you know, take, the number is going to be a very difficult choice.
1:20:07Yeah, as far as I can see, because there is Jacobson, and I think the Arabs are going to oppose him.
1:20:13Oh, and I think it's had to, that's the problem.
1:20:18I know, except they are going to, they're scared about that.
1:20:27They'll oppose, and then there is Makonnen of Ethiopia, who's supposed to be African, and others seem to think he's too arrogant or something, and in any case, he wants
1:21:27There is one way, yes, there is one consideration, and that is you want to select a man that would be more appropriate to the Chinese, or more approved by the Chinese, than anybody else.
1:21:45Because that's going to be the big thing.
1:21:52I think we can have a little dialogues, messages in regard to this.
1:22:09Very secretly, of course, because we are the Russian people.
1:22:13And the other thing is, I don't know what is the timing of your trips.
1:22:15I think, of course, on paper I was telling Henry that May next year will be tempting.
1:22:18Tempting fortune a little too much.
1:22:20The world-shaking event of this time, as you can see, has been a great sensation.
1:22:40I think it should be expected, completely possible, after the Chinese go and settle in the U.N., possibly.
1:22:42I mean, maybe we will not get as much out of it.
1:22:43I'm preparing a very long opinion, but at the same time... We have no desire to say
1:22:45They haven't been booked in late.
1:23:03As a matter of fact, we were, we were, we were interested in going earlier, but it has to be at a time they want to.
1:23:05Yeah, yeah.
1:23:05And it's a question really that we haven't had any understanding.
1:23:06Well, I hope you talk to them about it.
1:23:07What time is it?
1:23:08Well, we'll book it out at the end of the process.
1:23:09And now you've got that man in Ottawa.
1:23:11And I saw a big plan.
1:23:28And you could not even touch him, you know what I mean?
1:23:30If there is anything that you can do to talk to that man, you know what I mean?
1:23:32Sometimes you don't want to touch somebody, but you want somebody else.
1:23:33And we know, too, that we can crush your distraction, and we can get it.
1:23:35On the big play, you can still go on the big play.
1:23:36You let him know that it's good and everything else.
1:31:56The second thing is that the $80 million commodity aid, roughly if that is the year, last year's commodity aid, this was stopped.
1:32:17But it was stopped really because we were going to devalue, and AID did not want to sanction this $80 million for last year until we devalue.
1:32:22Then of course we got into these mass troubles and devaluation of some of the bonds.
1:32:24Now, America, United States, is the only country which has not paid last year's consulting money.
1:32:47All other consulting countries have paid.
1:32:48It's the AID.
1:32:48Not the current year.
1:32:49Current year will take a lot of the other consulting countries for the October meeting.
1:32:51But last year, why should the U.S. be the only country
1:32:53Did any other country pay as much money as they had paid before?
1:33:15This is the question.
1:33:15Anything that can come, because 60 million of that is in the private sector, 20 million is in the public sector.
1:33:18Now, the new West Pakistan factories, private sector and so on, they extremely experience a shortage of commodities.
1:33:20We get a lot of new raw materials.
1:33:24whatever is possible to put into the pipeline.
1:33:33On the ground, and this is not in the news actually, it is really last year, a year, when it was possible.
1:33:49But then I had to walk in.
1:34:16Well, all right.
1:34:35Thank you.
1:34:35Well, I'm sorry to interrupt.
1:34:36You have too much knowledge in the back.
1:34:37I think we have to draw on it one way or another.
1:34:48All right.
1:35:08All right.
1:35:10You did a paperweight, didn't you?
1:35:12I've always had to steal gimmicks around here.
1:35:13You've got to have that for your walking bikini.
1:35:15You don't have the system for walking.
1:35:16You've got to have that.
1:35:20If we can, I must say, it's a...
1:35:44I think it's a...
1:35:44I'm not familiar with that version, please.
1:35:50or something like that.
1:36:08Our Constitution wrote that in, you know, because I heard it in the United States about the British and all that.
1:36:13And as a matter of fact, the American president, well, my wife was a victor, Ruby, if you ever gave her, an American president cannot extend a declaration.
1:36:16Well, we are, and we are greatly, greatly appreciative of everything, and we'll keep it in the closest touch.
1:36:18Obviously.
1:36:20Thank you.
1:37:29We've got this group here.
1:37:45The Anderson thing is off.
1:37:45Do you think we can locate it?
1:37:46No, we think we can get him back.
1:37:47And what we had in mind is that this group is off.
1:37:48It's good identification.
1:37:49Young people were just sitting in a meeting.
1:37:50Press photograph at the beginning while Black is presented to you.
1:37:53And then before you say anything to him, we'll move the press out.
1:37:54And I think by that time we can get Martin Anderson back.
1:37:56I don't see any theories of the same.
1:37:56I don't think he's...
1:38:27We will present the flight to you.
1:38:29We will press up.
1:38:30Directly.
1:38:53Well, you've got something to give Dawn, but you're not looking.
1:38:57We'll give it to the girl that spoke to you.
1:39:33How are you?
1:39:59Mommy?
1:40:08I understand what you're asking.
1:40:12This is the first time.
1:40:12This is the first time.
1:41:21Thank you very much.
1:41:51And there we are, good.
1:42:17Yeah, that happens, right.
1:42:17I think we've got a, uh, we're gonna get pretty busy.
1:42:18If it works out, we're gonna rally.
1:42:19If it doesn't, we're gonna fix it all.
1:42:40... ... ... ... ... ...
1:43:11I really appreciate the way that all of you have been doing it.
1:43:35I'm very grateful to the students and also to the rest of the faculty.
1:43:36There's nothing that you can do for any of our faculty.
1:43:37And I just want to say thank you so much.
1:43:38Thank you so much.
1:43:38Thank you.
1:43:39Thank you.
1:43:39Thank you.
1:43:39Thank you.
1:43:39Thank you.
1:43:40Thank you.
1:43:40Thank you.
1:43:48How long have you been working here?
1:44:13I've been working here for a long time.
1:44:14How long have you been working here?
1:44:15I've been working here a long time.
1:44:16We haven't had much sleep in a little while.
1:44:39We've been working on our dinner.
1:44:40We've been working on our dinner.
1:44:41We've been working on our dinner.
1:44:41We've been working on our dinner.
1:44:57Well, we'd like to give you something on your ear.
1:45:21Well, this is a cute little thing.
1:45:22You might want to see this.
1:45:34Now listen, we want you each to have a little remembrance.
1:46:07The owner is the seal, which is the floor.
1:46:23And usually it's the carpet.
1:46:24So that here is the carpet.
1:46:25There's the seal.
1:46:25So we watch it all.
1:46:28Well, we've brought along a little memento for you, too, if you didn't like something we'd like to possibly bring on the part of your wardrobe.
1:46:48So...
1:46:48Yes, you have the flag on, sir.
1:46:49You just have the flag on.
1:46:50I am very grateful now, and I will put this in a...
1:46:51It's the right size.
1:46:51I...
1:46:51I... Let me help.
1:46:52It's fine.
1:47:00Since you've got a blazer now, you're all set to be an official member of DECO.
1:47:02I want you to try to make our National Leadership Conference.
1:47:03It's all waiting to take place.
1:47:04It's our work.
1:47:07So we certainly won't invite you to come.
1:47:32I'd like to be able to, but I get to know you because of this group being sort of a business argument between each other.
1:47:35I'll show you what I mean.
1:47:35I'll show you what I mean.
1:47:36I'll show you what I mean.
1:47:36I'll show you what I mean.
1:47:38Normally you sign it, but you're trying to sign it with a number of N's.
1:47:48So this is the place that you sign it now.
1:47:49Your user sign.
1:48:05We're giving it to a friend.
1:48:25We're giving it to a friend.
1:48:26We're giving it to a friend.
1:48:26You're going to have a good time, I believe.
1:48:27You're going to draw a generation of peace in the world.
1:48:28That's going to be a very challenging time.
1:48:29People may live through a period of war, as hard as it is, but what you do with peace is also very, very challenging.
1:48:32And people are going to be disturbed.
1:48:37I'll see you next time.
1:49:25Hi, Earl.
1:49:38I've been here.
1:49:40Mark Adams is sending you over.
1:49:42Mr. Earl, I'd like to bring you the head coat for the one minute departing White House settlement.
1:49:44We're working with the janitor for just a tangent in Fort Graham while waiting for it.
1:49:45What's that?
1:49:46What about the clothes?
1:49:46The clothes is on some call, and we'll call you when it comes.
1:49:48Just come to my house.
1:49:48So, the coat will just be the head coat.
1:49:50This is one minute working with the janitor.
1:49:51That's the White House.
1:49:52What about the hats?
1:49:52We don't have them.
1:49:52He'll be here in just a second.
1:49:53Oh, he's coming right away.
1:49:54That's it.
1:49:54That's all very good, Mr. Chancellor.
1:50:19Yes, sir.
1:50:41Good right hand, and what are your results?
1:50:42Well, we're in San Diego, so in a sense, they're all waiting for us.
1:50:43Great, great.
1:50:43You're going to San Diego?
1:50:44Yes.
1:50:44You've got a good background for it, haven't you?
1:50:45He'll be very well.
1:50:45We're going to catch him in a while.
1:50:46Well, you've got a pretty good start, you know, San Diego.
1:50:50It has all the possibilities of being there.
1:51:04It's better to be turned into a soul.
1:51:04That's the problem.
1:51:05I get it.
1:51:05It's a man.
1:51:05That's right.
1:51:06It's a man.
1:51:06It's a man.
1:51:06It's a man.
1:51:06It's a man.
1:51:26Quite a bit.
1:51:28Surprisingly so.
1:52:29I have worked on him this morning again.
1:52:47I understand why you're getting balance into the staff on the moderate conservative side rather than the important side.
1:52:53And I think what you could do is simply tell him face to face that you consider that important.
1:52:58Tell him that you hope he can find his way clear to rejoin us.
1:53:15Now, whether he turns us down or not after that is not as important as the fact that you've made the decision.
1:53:20But why don't you sit there while I talk?
1:53:21Sure.
1:53:21And I'm going to take a minute.
1:53:22I don't mind the outside.
1:53:23I don't mind the outside.
1:53:23I can break it off, right?
1:53:24Well, I've had church also.
1:53:24I can break it off.
1:53:25Right.
1:53:25You said it's my time.
1:53:55Revitalized car
1:54:24The 1950s foreign trade was used, and quite properly so, as a device for serving American foreign policy.
1:54:45Now, the situation is reversed.
1:54:46Foreign trade must be used for serving American domestic policy.
1:54:47I said, that's the way the other governments of the world, not just the Soviets, the totalitarian governments, particularly the Europeans, the Japanese, the Blacks, we've got to get in the meeting.
1:54:51So that's an entirely different viewpoint.
1:54:52And he's going to have one hell of a time.
1:54:59market-oriented design, and you are, I mean, that's rather important, but I look back even to what we were saying a year ago in this trade area, and it's no longer relevant.
1:55:19In other words, we don't want to go, what was it, when it came in, we've got this thing up, and we have to have a new round of reducing
1:55:24and they find very effective ways to do it to us without appearing to it.
1:55:39They've got all sorts of compromise and so forth.
1:55:43There's this business of an airplane that I found out they've done this plane.
1:55:45I find that it's assembled only in California.
1:55:51made the wings there, and something else was made in Italy because of the fuselage, because they couldn't buy it unless they made something there, so they bought a few planes.
1:56:08Something else, the engines were made someplace else, and they bought the planes, and so what do we end up doing?
1:56:11Not a damn thing.
1:56:12Just putting it together.
1:56:12It's quite a good plan, the damn thing.
1:56:13Even the most ardent free enterprise would admit that it's a two-way street.
1:56:16Well, it's a two-way street, but it's
1:56:22That's not true.
1:56:24They do not have free economies.
1:56:26They do not work that way.
1:56:29They don't take that whole leader-denial attitude.
1:56:34To them, it's cold turkey, but we'll help you if you help us.
1:56:36Now, that's not free enterprise, right?
1:56:38That's not free trade.
1:56:39So, yeah, I'm fine, but if they want to play the game, we've got to play the game, too.
1:56:41That's all.
1:56:42That's the way to get the barriers reduced, too.
1:56:45That's right.
1:56:46Then they'll say, well, if
1:56:49There's nothing in it for them.
1:57:02See, if everybody plays this game of having non, what we call, NDPs, then they become irrelevant.
1:57:10But if only a few do it and get away with it, then it means that those that don't play it get screwed.
1:57:13I know that there's another secretary, John, that's talking to you about what we're... Let me say what I have in mind, and I may not be your personal plans, but...
1:57:19I told John that I feel that our domestic staff, particularly since economics now is becoming, to particularly the economic side, it's becoming, could very well be the major issue for the 1972.
1:57:46And that it needs balance.
1:57:46Now, it needs, I don't mean by that, and you well know the idea that Ervin is a flaming liberal and
1:57:49all of his staff are and so forth.
1:58:03It's ridiculous.
1:58:05The point is that the point of view, which is represented by what I would call the conservative thinkers, the responsible conservatives in the economic community, at least from public appearances, it does not need to be represented.
1:58:13In my view, as I've seen some of these presentations, I'm not sure that it is.
1:58:36I think it is.
1:58:36I think John tries to bring the balance in.
1:58:37I bring it in, of course, because I lean that way myself.
1:58:38But even taking this whole field of reprivatization and frankly welfare, which we're jamming on with the hard look.
1:58:41And again, in all of these areas,
1:58:42we have intended to deal with the problems, have had a very, very substantial input from those who, well, they aren't really just witted at what we're presently doing, but on the other hand, their attitudes with regard to what we're presently doing are different parts.
1:59:09Well, I'll give you a specific example.
1:59:10A major issue that we have now is OEO's extension.
1:59:12uh when i looked at the budget presentation two or three days ago i said well and they said what do we do i said the senate's loaded it down it's a terrible bill and so forth that you can't afford and uh i said oh no we're not gonna i said we're not gonna do that
1:59:41All the OEO programs that are virtually all of them are now in special revenue.
2:00:01Anyway, those are worth a damn.
2:00:01The others should go out.
2:00:02But it's simple what we want.
2:00:02Then when we, so I said, all right, let's just decide now that we will let the Congress load the bill and screw it up as badly as it can, and then I'll veto it.
2:00:06And it will be sustained, and then we'll have a clear cut issue on OEO.
2:00:08But then it comes in from so many people who said, oh, we can't do this because that'll put 300,000 people out of work.
2:00:13I have no use for any of them.
2:00:28Not one damn thing.
2:00:29You know.
2:00:30And you also, I hope, have found that that isn't quite true.
2:00:35I'm not going to have a fallacious argument put up on this.
2:00:53He has the item, not for illegal.
2:00:53I mean, it's a challenge that we were not to present to him.
2:00:55What I'm getting at is that we now are in a position, as we prepare the 73 budget, you see, a budget which will never be enacted.
2:00:59But if I can't, it will only be made.
2:01:02As we prepare that, we're now in a position to take a look at everything we inherited in the British society and make that an issue rather than simply going along as we did in the beginning, you know, trying to clean them up here and there.
2:01:23We started with the Special Revenue Sheriff, which does quite a job on these programs.
2:01:25For example, that you saw when you did the model studies, I'm not really sure that was good.
2:01:27Mark was in on that.
2:01:32but when that came up i remember my hand was here and so we i said what the hell why don't you keep them they said oh you can't go up because the cities will blow well so they'll blow i don't know i don't think it will i think it can be done artfully and this is this and still have the issue yeah i just what i want to be sure we do though i want to get rid of the wheel you know what i mean right it is a symbol of what we inherited
2:01:57the poverty programs and so forth, and an approach that I think is, you can't get your vetoes sustained.
2:02:15If the argument can truly be made to threaten thousands of people, oh, don't worry, never, never, I said that, that's true, right, and I don't want to veto it.
2:02:20Again, what are Republicans in the spot where they all can't do it, because they'll stand up on this thing.
2:02:22But if you think all the 300,000 are going to be out of work, they'll...
0:07uh you know
0:22And you also, I hope, have found that that isn't quite true, that they have to go out.
0:43It's beginning to appear that it's not.
0:44I'm not going to have a fallacious argument to put up on this.
0:45I am not for a legal, I mean, a strategy that we will work out to present to you.
0:47What I'm getting at is that we now are in a position, as we prepare the 73 budget, is a budget which will never be enacted.
0:50As we prepare that, we're now in a position to take a look at everything we inherited in British society and make that an issue rather than simply going along as we did in the beginning, you know, trying to clean them up here and there.
1:12We started the Special Revenue Sheriff, which does quite a job on these programs.
1:14For example, the
1:15that you saw when you did the model city.
1:31I'm pretty sure that was good.
1:32Mark was in on the, yeah, on the plow.
1:33Well, the community action that, if you remember, when that came up, I remember my hand was here, and so we, I said, why don't you keep them?
1:36They said, oh, you can't go in because the cities will blow.
1:38Well, so they'll blow, I don't know.
1:39I don't think they will.
1:40I think it can be done artfully.
1:40And this is, and still have the issue.
1:42Yeah, I guess what I want to be sure we do, though, I want to get rid of the wheel, you know what I mean?
2:01It is a symbol of what we inherited, the poverty programs and so forth, and an approach that I think is, you can't get your defense to stay.
2:04If the argument can truly be made to threaten thousands of people, oh, kill work, never, never.
2:06That's true, right?
2:06I don't want to veto it.
2:11Because they'll stand up on this thing.
2:26But if they go at $300,000 and try to be out of work, they'll overwrite just like that.
2:28And also it's a bad issue for us because we don't care about the unemployment.
2:29But this is the kind of thing that we're coping with.
2:31We're doing on this one, well, take the various things.
2:32Remember, now this education study that I wrote, I'm not satisfied with that job.
2:34It shows $6 billion is being spent.
2:40Now, for Christ's sakes, the trouble is it's all being spent in higher education, subsidizing a bunch of goddamn socialists.
2:43and others, I bet you know what that's like.
3:00You know, and MIT, for Christ's sakes, what are they doing?
3:01They couldn't even have a defense contract.
3:03They don't believe in it.
3:03They get more federal money than any other university.
3:04I know, but they don't believe in it.
3:05They're acting like son of a bitches.
3:06It's rather, rather, you know, everything, everything, everything.
3:08You want to trust them with a defense contract?
3:10Why do we subsidize MIT?
3:10I don't know why.
3:11Yeah, get them to open them up.
3:11Maybe they're not as bright, but they can't learn to be bright, can't they?
3:14And maybe it's right.
3:31I think they are.
3:33I think they are.
3:33I think they are.
3:34A lot of it's overestimated, this idea and stuff.
3:37Because brains without character sometimes produces cells.
3:39Yeah.
3:39And the other thing, you've got that.
3:39You've got education.
3:40Health is one of the rooms.
3:40That is one of the rooms we're doing well.
3:41At least we've got the kind of thing.
3:42But where do the private enterprise stand?
3:43And we may make it work.
3:58I don't know about transportation.
3:58That's just a pain in the ass.
4:00It's a management problem.
4:01And it's bad.
4:01Just in the club, right?
4:02There's some great political asset.
4:03And there's a lot of restaurants.
4:04But you can't run a goddamn apartment.
4:04We're spending billions of dollars over there.
4:06And it's housing.
4:07I don't know.
4:13I just talked to Rodney out here a little while ago, and how the kingdom housing industry is right now.
4:16I would say that we are making some progress.
4:33Mark, I was talking about suburban integration with a lot of us this morning, the problems we had.
4:35And the reason we need balance in the staff, that whole thing is a certain case study.
4:37Now, on suburban integration, how are we going to run it?
4:38And he said that down with him about HUD.
4:39I asked him, he gave me a paper on the Republican staff member of his committee.
4:40See, he's on the House of Representatives.
4:46There are people, despite what I have said, despite what Ron has said publicly, are still
5:04to get to people like tower and we've heard this from other people and said bring us a specific case
5:22Because you get a lot of vague mumbling about things.
5:41Well, this fellow did, and he gave me a memo that I sent to you.
5:42He's got a specific case.
5:43We can move right in, because Romney is a board.
5:44And we can get those guys out of there.
5:44But let us just be sure that all over this country, that we don't get into the business of supporting integrated housing.
5:47I want to talk to you about another topic.
5:48All right.
5:48We can talk about that Austin case.
5:49Yeah.
5:49I don't know what the hell we can do about it.
5:50We've got to appeal to that thing.
6:09He isn't going to like it.
6:10We're on the wrong side of it.
6:11The hell it is is the judge.
6:11It's already not.
6:11He said there are two legs to that case.
6:12You've got to appeal one and leave the other one alive.
6:13And I think it could be done.
6:14That's all I have to talk about.
6:15I think there's a way we can do it.
6:15But we have to think.
6:16I think we have to go the other way.
6:17We're talking about it.
6:17The post is coming.
6:18Way beyond the time you see anything else.
6:36It's going to get worse for it if it's better.
6:38Because there are a lot of people who just believe no questions asked.
6:39They believe no questions asked.
6:40It's going to get worse.
6:41It's going to be a very tough place.
6:41Well, anyway, there's a number of these now where in our whole budget and goals study, which John Ray told you about.
6:44The reason I told him I want to see every program he's got.
6:45Everything.
6:45Every program.
6:45I don't care.
6:46That's just me and the agencies.
6:48We don't give a damn about that because it can't be proved that it was you.
7:18for the election.
7:36You see, we present a 73 budget, and it can be, in this case, we'll present the thing and say this is what the Congress ought to do, and if the Congress doesn't do it, yes, it will not.
7:40The Democratic Congress will never do it.
7:41We can say, well, this is what they believe, that's what we believe.
7:43And of course, implicit in all this is the tax tax.
7:44And that's the whole, to have a tax reform is a reform rather than simply a patching up.
7:46and, uh, one that, uh, doesn't our friends.
8:06Could we have done enough?
8:06We would, I think.
8:07Uh, so I'd just like to consider that, and I, if you could do it on any, of course, any basis, it would be helpful, but, uh, we, we need this, this kind of, uh, this kind of input, uh, we need it from you, uh, particularly, and, uh, it would be extremely helpful.
8:14If you, I realize that it's a suggestion that you've been around this track here, or you may wonder whether, whether you believe the main conversation, whether it's for real, but that's the question, whether you just don't know whether you're going to be listening.
8:35And that's a cold decision that you make.
8:36I can assure you that that's what I want to hear.
8:37As I said earlier, I'm going to tell you, I sent off memo after memo on this mic.
8:51I've explained, Mark, how terrifically tough it is to get balance in the work that comes to you.
9:08But when you ask people themselves, they take it all like coal.
9:09Coal is as balanced as any man I know.
9:10He hasn't had a lot of time at all.
9:10He has a hell of a time, Richie.
9:11When you go out through the agencies, the goddamn agencies aren't going to give you balance.
9:13Right, you're one way.
9:13They're all...
9:14Every one of them.
9:29ATV wants to have one.
9:30He'd take Rumsfeld.
9:30If Christ takes him, Rumsfeld was an OEO.
9:31L.D.
9:31was for the biggest empire builder there was.
9:32He wouldn't give up a damn thing when he's out of OEO.
9:33Over here, now Rumsfeld says, no, we've got to get rid of some of these things.
9:35And so it is with the other cabin officers, you know?
9:36They all say, well, this is my agency.
9:37This is my program.
9:37I don't see how people can be so goddamn dumb, you know, to go over it.
9:39You know, there's a chemistry that works there.
9:56When they go there, those big offices get set up, big offices.
9:58People come in, and of course they see the people, and, oh, we can't let this all out.
9:59I mean, we know his wife's going to have a baby, or it's near Christmas, or there are 1,400 here that we want to go, but on the other hand, it's tough.
10:02It's tough when it comes to people.
10:03But that's one thing.
10:04Program is something else again.
10:04An approach.
10:05And here we are making some progress.
10:23We're doing a lot of things that are interesting at the moment.
10:24I think we'll show progress in the second year.
10:25I don't think we'll be surprised.
10:25Even at this point, it's a surprise.
10:26It will be a surprise, even at this point.
10:27But we get it out to the federal government.
10:28I don't think particularly we get the tax thing wrapped around it.
10:30Y'all know a little about those types of things there.
10:48We'll finally get some of the tax proposals that have been dear to my heart, you know, in terms of, you know, I mean, everybody, the treasurer's always against it.
10:51They never want to use it.
10:52First, they don't want to change the system.
10:53Second, they don't want to use the taxes for social purposes.
10:54They say, what the hell is the income tax?
10:55What's the social purpose of it?
10:55Correct.
10:55What's the sound for, sir?
10:56The whole system, yeah.
10:57But, you know, the taxable value of the money, the
11:01Well, reprioritization comes in right there.
11:25Well that wouldn't bother me.
11:26But I don't want great big government daycare reprioritization.
11:43If you want to, I can see that.
11:43But this is the battle we're having with ATW now.
11:44ATW wants a federal system of daycare centers.
11:45And we want a system of contract authorization for permanent operation daycare centers.
11:47Oh, well, I think you could, for example, you could even encourage factories and plants to set them up on the premises for a person to go to work, leave a kid in one part and go to work, and pick up the kid when they go home.
12:07Yeah, they do that in foreign countries, you know.
12:08I was in Mexico visiting a plant.
12:08I remember even best far back in 1953, I went out to see a plant.
12:10It was the most marvelous little playground, and all the little tots are in there being fed and having their lunches and all that sort of thing.
12:13And the mom was working in there with the needles.
12:14That's right.
12:14Black ATWs against this?
12:32Oh, absolutely.
12:32We could fight this battle for four months.
12:33I've decided it.
12:33There's no more doubt.
12:34Your decision will assist us, but it will not prevent our ATW brands from getting in the fight.
12:35Well, and it goes all the way across the hill on this kind of stuff.
12:37And this is a problem.
12:41That's what I see, Dougie.
13:00We've lost the goddamn organization.
13:01We've got something new.
13:01I've always given this body the paper we wanted to use.
13:02I don't mean to judge you with this, but whatever the paper here is, can't be held up without always getting rid of the paper in a way that it matters.
13:05Let me just say this, Chuck.
13:06I've never told you how many things I can do to be a helpless and be happy to do so.
13:08Do you have anything to say?
13:08May I stand for now?
13:09Sure.
13:09I wanted to just retire from the job that she's... Oh, is she?
13:10No, I'm not stupid.
13:11I'm moving on.
13:11So that, and this is really, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really, I mean, it's really,
13:39I said, God damn it, get me the other side.
13:56I sent back paper after paper and said, I don't want to see just one second of all this.
13:58Uh, I can fight with it.
14:08I really feel it.
14:08You're the best qualified man to present the other side.
14:09When I say the other side, uh, don't think that you're gonna be in an army.
14:11Uh, I mean, uh,
14:14but uh
14:38We both ask you to support family and citizens.
14:50They brought this out for the wrong reason.
15:10The important thing is that it had to be done.
15:11It had to be done.
15:11And they heard some of our serving men, but they don't understand.
15:12What do we do?
15:13I don't know why.
15:13I just don't know what the best of all else came up.
15:14But basically, they don't understand because there's no doctor there.
15:16They don't see the summons.
15:16In other words, first of all, there's a guy with a COVID agent like...
15:27So, no, and in Pakistan, a pastor said to me just a moment ago, he helped us, he was one of the three who was on hand in history, and I brought the first message to him, which went on.
15:51Well, that's true.
15:51And he said that, he said he had felt for years that one of his major missions that we can hire, and he said it was there, that he could see that the most powerful nation in the world had some communication with the most powerful nation in the world.
15:56That's what's all about.
15:58So, anyway, thank you.
16:15I wish you would consider it.
16:16And I guess you're right, too, though.
16:16I'm going to take both.
16:17No, I didn't.
16:17I didn't know.
16:17In this case, I was like, I think he's a good guy.
16:18I don't know if he or she wants to get to a vote.
16:19I don't know.
16:26She says she's also listening on the radio.
17:03Drugs always seem to be delaying it a little bit, right?
17:23I'm not saying it, but I can't quite discern it.
17:24Badgers, distributed education clubs, John Chalmers, Bill Everly, and Martin Anderson.
17:25Is it better?
17:26Oh, God.
17:26I just can't get it.
17:26See, what I did, as much as I did what I did, what I did, what I did, what I did, what I did, what I did, what I did, what I did,
17:31I say to someone, you know what, we didn't plan it this way, but I was glad we got all three spats on the same day.
17:51I'm down with that.
17:51I agree with you on that.
17:51I don't mean to be polyamorous, but we don't like an unfavorable trade balance, and we don't like a 23.2 deficit, and we don't like the leading indicators turning down.
17:55That was a rather mixed bag.
17:56The coincident indicators were strong, huh?
17:58The leading indicators were slightly down after seven months of the rise.
18:06The reason they were down was, you know, it was because the housing permits, which are one of the indicators, went way, way up the month before, just skyrocketed.
18:19They came back down a little bit, although, about a month before that.
18:22So that had an impact.
18:24And then another leading indicator is industrial materials prices.
18:28which came down.
18:32Well, that's one of those things that, on the one hand, this is a sensitive indicator of expansion.
18:42Having it go up, it's a volatile kind of a series.
18:46But in another sense, it isn't so bad.
18:47So the leading indicator thing doesn't bother me at all.
18:52And the deficit was something that everyone expected.
18:58If it had been lower, in the sense that we had lowered expenditures drastically in order to get it down there, that wouldn't have been good for the economy at all.
19:13Even the people who are criticizing must have their tongue in their cheek a little bit, because on the one hand... Well, I think everybody has to accept that the economy has a gap, a lag.
19:21You have to spend more, right?
19:21It's a low seat.
19:22The Republican just today, I reminded them that Eisenhower had a 12 billion dollar deficit on May, but we had a 7 or 8% of the planet.
19:44And we all thought it was horrible, but it was right.
19:45That was an odd ceremony yesterday, particularly the Speaker.
19:46He must be really drinking pretty heavily or something.
19:47I forget that makes sense.
19:49It was quite apparent in the audience that the president was a little lost.
20:12He was, uh, he was shaking.
20:12He obviously couldn't quite see, you know, vision.
20:13I think he just had a pillow hang over him.
20:14I felt sorry for him.
20:15I didn't know he had, I didn't think this person was going to be able to do it.
20:16Everybody can drink.
20:17Everybody can drink.
20:17Most people do.
20:17At that age, there's a potential alcohol addict in the audience.
20:19But, uh,
20:19But what we really find out is when they come under great stress, when they're under great stress, some people just drink too much.
20:42Well, go to the bathroom, give a little George Mayhem a bath.
20:44He's a fine person.
20:44He's a very fine person.
20:45And easy to work with, honest and straight.
20:46Action.
20:46I call on him frequently.
20:46He's the best.
20:47I mean, you talk about Canada, too.
20:47You're into the boat.
20:48Lay on his head and shoulders a boat.
20:49Just a better man.
21:10More balanced.
21:10Decent.
21:11Harder.
21:11Non-partisan.
21:11You know what he said?
21:12I had a whole list of kinds of odds and ends that I wanted to keep you posted on.
21:13I'm just sort of moving along on them and I hope I start to get right.
21:15I'm a steel thing.
21:16There's been a slight break in that, apparently.
21:21The management has put forward an offer that's a little shamed.
21:32Abel is evaluating it.
21:34He agrees that it's motion and start coming.
21:37They haven't gotten to the canned level by a long shot, and they haven't gotten to face-up cost-of-living escalation questions, and those, I think, are critical.
21:45Kurt is having a reading on that and will let me know this afternoon how it stands further.
21:52And depending on what I find out, I might call each of the parties and then perhaps tomorrow, if it seems appropriate at all, we bring them over here.
22:03Sunday would not be a time under, no matter what happens, when there'd be any point in here doing anything.
22:11But how will they strike Sunday?
22:13If they were real close, they might extend.
22:18I can't imagine that either really wants to strike all that badly.
22:22Management probably would be more strike prone now than the union for that matter.
22:26Well, I just hope we get the message to management that we don't want to strike.
22:43I think that's going to be difficult.
22:46Well, we'll do that, for sure.
22:47And we'll just have to take the heat of the rising prices.
22:48I'd rather take that than the other.
22:49Well, so that's where that stands.
22:50I mean, there are...
22:50But, Monday, would you think they'd want to see somebody Monday?
22:51What happens if you come up to these strike deadlines is that there's
22:54As they move to that deadline, that's a time for concentration on getting a settlement.
23:02Once a strike gets called, then everybody's attention moves away from the negotiation onto the question of managing the strike.
23:11And when you put 300,000 people out on the bricks, you have a management job to do in just doing that.
23:18So I think the general pattern is that once a strike starts, there's just nothing to do for a couple of weeks.
23:24until that kind of settles in and then you can get the parties back together again more easily.
23:37That's not always the case, but that's a fairly typical pattern.
23:40But at any rate, this is something we will stay very close to and do everything we can to see that they don't have a strike.
23:44I think from the standpoint of the management offers, we have enough leverage so that if we really wanted to tell them
23:53why they would be quite forthcoming in their wage offer.
23:57And then, of course, they would take no backdoor from anybody when it came to putting their prices up.
24:11I don't think that's all too bad.
24:17Well, I'll hang this one out.
24:18Everybody wants it.
24:18I think it's with us.
24:20It was a pain for a while.
24:27And, you know, when you look at it, it's really true, George.
24:48I got to study those figures again last night.
24:49It is true that inflation profits, you notice through the eyes of me, 1% would go down with whatever you do.
24:51There were three or four years, and I saw years where my brain was in place, went down by three-tenths of, four-tenths of a percent.
24:54The economy would try to sluggish, too sluggish.
24:55That's the other point.
24:56Now, we have a situation now where
24:57In 1968 it was 4.2 and then it went up to higher this year.
25:14Last year it was 7.
25:14Now it's 71.
25:14But it's gone from 4.2 to 4.5.
25:164.2 is the GMPD fighter and the CPI for the first six months is about 4.
25:21The last two months being high and the first four months being low.
25:25Well, under those circumstances, though, that just has to be designated as stopping the rate of increase and, to a certain extent, breaking the rate of increase down.
25:50I don't know.
25:50Well, last night...
25:51But he shouldn't say that if it isn't true, he should say you're not stopping it enough, that I understand.
26:02But I don't think he's gonna say you were making no progress on inflation.
26:03I don't think, I don't consider that true.
26:04Do you?
26:04I think we are making some headway.
26:08It's disappointing that it isn't more.
26:10The point that I tried to get home to the Republican senators last night wasn't to say that the program isn't working, it's totally wrong.
26:20That if you hadn't done the things you've done on the budget, and they had the kind of strict monetary policy we have, inflation would be at a 10 or 12% level by this time.
26:34And if you discontinued those things, it would have been soaring up and feeding on it.
26:39Oh, now without a doubt.
26:41Without a doubt.
26:42There was that much coal, oil, and gas.
26:43Tremendous.
26:44Tremendous.
26:50He reports that his spirits are lifted a little bit and he thinks there will be some chance of getting another negotiated settlement.
27:06Meeting this afternoon at 2.
27:09And he has raised the question of
27:13of a possible thrust in the negotiations of bringing, of having me meet with Luna.
27:22I've known Luna, met with him a lot in the early days of her administration.
27:24And either over at the Labor Secretary's office or over here.
27:28And I said, well, all right, if that'll help, bring him over here.
27:33And I had in my mind the possibility, depending on the time and lives and so on,
27:38that maybe you'd like to say a word to them.
27:44Sure, sure.
27:45Either bringing them in here, or it might be this afternoon, it might be tomorrow sometime.
27:50They have another bunch of roads going out tomorrow.
27:59We could do that, or another thing that you could do is we have...
28:02tipped off.
28:05It's what you and I did on that postal thing.
28:08You remember I called you once from the room with all them sort of listening.
28:15That's right.
28:15If you wanted to and you could just stroll into my office up there and say something and leave and then you wouldn't have the problem of them being in here and having to get them in and out.
28:26But there are all kinds of different things.
28:28So that's what I should do.
28:29We should be quite casual.
28:30I agree.
28:30Yeah.
28:30Absolutely, but yeah, it'll be the best to get through, right?
28:40If we don't get anywhere this weekend, then I think we pretty much have to go for legislation.
28:48And I think my own feeling is that what we should do is ask the Congress to put into effect the emergency board recommendations, which include the work rule changes.
28:57And that'll be very tough for the Congress people.
29:04On the other hand, Luna has made a number of statements that he'd just as soon go to Congress because he says, I've got Congress wired and they'll give me what they want.
29:17And we're trying to let that get around a little bit that he's said that.
29:23Also, get as visible as we can how much more efficient the railroads actually are.
29:25In fact, operating with better work rules.
29:27so that the Congress is in a position of being a patsy for inefficiency in the system.
29:40Some have raised the question of whether we should kind of really position ourselves in this dispute on the side of the railroad, because it is a very popular kind of an issue.
29:49I can see a lot to that.
29:52Rather reluctant myself to see the administration or you get so identified with management, I agree, in a labor dispute.
30:09Even though this particular one is very popular, it tends to carry over that you've become partisan against labor in a dispute.
30:12But anyway, that is something that I agree with.
30:14I don't think there's anything to be gained from that.
30:16I don't want to be lined up with management.
30:17Goddamn management.
30:18They, uh, they've got to realize they have the best friend or spouse they could ever have.
30:35And, uh, if we're willing to do things that nobody else is willing to do, I think this is better.
30:38They better just take it out on faith.
30:39That's what NASA's got to do.
30:39The profit statements are coming pretty well.
30:41Railroads are, have looked better this year.
30:42The airlines are showing a little better performance.
30:43We did get that $58 million for them.
30:44That's, I think, is now through the conference committee.
30:48So, some of these problem industries are beginning to show a little bit better picture.
31:04But also, your predictions on the profits.
31:05I know there's a lot of old bills and others that are showing bad profits.
31:08GM is, I think they've only had one quarter of their history better than the second quarter.
31:10So, they've been doing well.
31:10On the productivity commission, I'm charging ahead now.
31:14and saying you're calling a meeting September 21st, which is the date we have on your calendar, and figuring on putting in the statement that the president hopes to participate in a meeting at some appropriate time.
31:36That's not an absolute commitment.
31:37The expectation is that this would be an occasion where you might want to make a
31:41pretty careful speech on all of this business and productivity and cost and so forth.
31:56At least you can consider it for that.
31:57So I'm moving ahead on that.
31:59I know I mention this only because of the comments in the budget meeting about commissions and meetings and so forth.
32:02A lot of things turn out not to be worthwhile.
32:04This could turn out not to be all that worthwhile, but I think a
32:06Giving visibility to the importance of productivity just by itself is a worthwhile thing.
32:15I noticed even Time magazine gave us a pretty good pat on the back on this line that we've identified a fundamental thing.
32:25It's a problem.
32:25You have to make the administration at least do something on it.
32:29There's a fairly good side right up in it.
32:31On the international front,
32:34The difficulty with commissions generally, and I suffer in this one, is that it appears to dodge so often.
32:53And people say, hold on, here's another one.
32:53And second, where it's a controversial issue, all you do is put your fate in the hands of a bunch of mad demagogues, and then you do this to find out what to do.
32:58I mean, use a commission, but don't announce it.
32:59And like when you go through a hundred commissions,
33:00We now have a budget for this productivity commission of $800,000.
33:23So we have the ability to do a little bit more than we had before.
33:24On this international monetary front, as I mentioned to you last night, the proposals emanating out of Treasury are very...
33:31bold and tremendous in terms of to close the gold window, close the dollar, install a wage price freeze, et cetera, et cetera.
33:51This is a gargantuan thing to do.
33:52And in these little meetings that are going on intensively now, I'm consciously trying to
33:58prove it all a problem and make people come up with something more than their opinion and generally not dragging my feet particularly but but uh peeing a little bit on the gum slow and think it over side i don't see any
34:20prospect that we would be ready to have something tremendous like that this weekend.
34:25They just don't have the answers to perfectly ordinary questions.
34:31Well, let's get at this.
34:33When I got a copy, he said that 30, at least the last time, 30 years ago, he said that he thought, he hadn't thought that we ought to do something like that.
34:51about it, and then cuddling afterwards, I thought to myself, he felt probably the best time to do something is in September.
35:13That he, that thinking of doing something now is all, and I think it's kind of a blatant argument that all the Europeans will be on vacation, that he didn't do something in the month of August, the Congress was going to be gone.
35:18That isn't a good reason for doing anything at a certain time.
35:19He thought that doing it just before the international conference, maybe in September,
35:21First, it gives us more time to decide what we're going to do.
35:39Second, it might have a good impact in terms of that meeting.
35:41I also come to the point that it's very important to do the right thing here.
35:43And we have to take every day as long as we can.
35:44And that leads me to another...
35:44I think that there is a tendency
35:47The International Monetary Crowd and the Treasury and the Council and everybody else, everybody that was exposed to this, to cry wolf more than is justified.
36:09At least three or four times over the past many years, they've come in here and said, I've got to call the German Chester on the phone or I've got to call the England Mozart.
36:13I haven't done it, but within a minute or so, it would have been it.
36:15Very good statement of wisdom and empathy on those things.
36:30But they thought that showed you how deeply involved they were, and so forth.
36:36Now, if the crisis is that bad, in other words, if Volcker thinks, well, they're going to come in and do all these things right now, maybe it's best to let it happen, and then do it.
36:41I don't, I don't think you're, that's what I think you've got to check in terms of your conclusion.
36:59Is it that bad?
36:59Is it, is it something where, where we have to have now?
37:01Now, one other point I think, on the wage price freeze part of it, and I've talked commonly about this, from a, we should think of a wage price freeze in my opinion only
37:15that we can only say at the end of this year or at a time that it could be put off and lifted as soon as it hasn't worked too well.
37:37In other words, have some effect, but not now.
37:40If you have a wage rights freeze now, I think it would only mean there's a flattening
37:48to admit that yet.
37:59Second, if a waste price freeze comes now, it's certain to screw up about March or April of next year, September, or let's suppose they even have worked that long, five or six months, then they say, then what are you going to do?
38:09Even if you try it in, say, December or January,
38:11for six months.
38:22So it finishes off in June.
38:23By that time, it's too damn confused, and maybe not too much would happen.
38:30But I guess what I'm saying is that while the wage price freeze is maybe part of the package, and it's a bold move and all that sort of thing, I think it should be treated separately as something that we do later.
38:37I think Conway is
38:41days ago.
38:47Now, as far as the other things are concerned, the export rebates and the import thing that Peterson was talking about, not cool as it was.
39:00As far as the fact of the way of raising tariff, I guess so.
39:10things we just got to take a look at to see what can work.
39:28The thing that concerns me about the, what was Peterson's original thought, you know, McCracken's original thought, McCracken and I was on this, we were just, well, let's let everything float, let it float, and let's devalue, basically.
39:36I just think, politically, it would be awfully hard to explain that.
39:38In terms of jobs, let me put the whole thing.
39:53First, we've got a problem with the international financial situation and the dollar and all that crap and so forth and so on.
39:56In terms of the 200 million Americans, there are perhaps 50,000 that understand the whole thing.
39:58That's about all it's in general sense of it.
40:04We say, well, we're running out of this.
40:22If the story is that, well, your dollars aren't worth as much or the value is down, that's a dynamite thing.
40:24But the political issue that's standing here can't be solved.
40:26If you could, you can't agree with it.
40:28You could handle it.
40:29On the other hand, you might handle it.
40:30In a situation where, say, on the export rebates and port licenses and so forth, maybe some of that, although it runs contrary to
40:33I don't think we ought to do something.
40:56I don't feel myself having to do something.
40:57Is Connelly Pressler doing something right now, you say, crazy?
41:12Is it Volker, Connelly?
41:14That's a news that we thought I'd guess at your discussion.
41:16Peterson, McCracken, Volker, and I have been... Yeah, Volker.
41:18...being quite a lot.
41:19Yeah.
41:19Presumably going to then go to Connelly when we've...
41:20Right.
41:20...got our thoughts straight.
41:21And Volker initially has been pressing for a decision to do something this weekend, and I think by this time everybody's convinced that he doesn't have the...
41:26evidence to show that.
41:36We'll take a look at the brokerage.
41:46The brokerage represents a certain point of view that we have to consider.
41:47He is part of that community, of that net community, and they always want to do something, you know what I mean?
41:49It's hard to learn from the brokerage.
41:50You know, he's got to see what kind of a five-day chapter you can go away and believe in instead of international monetary things.
41:53Well, it's going to work.
41:53It's going to occur.
41:54In my opinion, my view is it's going to work or it's not.
41:55Certainly not going to work with us just if we go away for a weekend and we don't know what we want or what we'll give up for it.
42:10In other words, we aren't prepared for this.
42:17That's right.
42:17That's right.
42:17The next person to raise the price of gold, Stephen, the doctor also has.
42:19Well, that would simply create chaotic situations.
42:20While you're waiting for the damn Congress to act on it, the Congress might not act.
42:21You know what I mean?
42:22You'd just be in for the scale.
42:24That's what I'm saying.
42:24Well, I don't think it's...
42:29Well, I...
42:59I think Voker is a good person.
43:01He knows the deal.
43:03But I must say I don't really have a lot of confidence in his judgment on these things, which is why I'm sort of testing him out all the time.
43:15And I'll continue to sort of take that role independent of what I really think.
43:17I'm sure I'll do that.
43:19Well, you see the devil's out of you, and remembering that.
43:32What about the second look at the second quarter GNP versus 1904?
43:47Does it come upside?
43:49Well, the first figure they have is the 1907.
43:53And I guess next month there'll be another reading on it as they get more figures.
43:59It's Wednesday that they'll announce the retail trade statistics, so I suppose we'll get them probably Tuesday.
44:13Wednesday's the announcement date.
44:14We also have an unemployment figure that will be announced Friday of next week, so next week we'll have another batch of those.
44:21I think the wholesale price index is also in there.
44:24Perhaps Thursday or along in there.
44:29One thing I would caution you is, and really a strong measure on this international thing, is not to make any casual comments about it to people outside this very, very strong circle.
44:51Because it's so...
44:53Explosive.
45:07And any reference to gold or the gold window or anything like that, right?
45:08That's what we agreed, colleague.
45:09Well, everybody agreed that nobody would see anything.
45:10No papers would be read.
45:11No papers would be circulated.
45:11In fact, I don't know if the doctors say anything about it, so I don't say nothing.
45:13Okay.
45:13But we're waiting to hear.
45:14What's the, uh, on the, uh, on the item five thing now?
45:23Well, no, it's just that in that survey, it's a sample survey, and the sample's all taken at one time, and the data was gathered at one time and bundled up, and when you have the result, you have it, and you don't have any piece of it beforehand.
45:42It's in the nature, whereas in the consumer price index, you do get some bits and pieces.
45:48We get better food as well, so we don't have any
45:52Okay, preliminary.
45:59What presently is, what is the last, what was the last month unacclimated?
46:07Was it 5.6 or was it 6?
46:11It was 5.6, seasonally adjusted.
46:13The unadjusted figures started out in February.
46:15I heard some data that started this morning referred to a 6.1 unacclimated as being the present figure.
46:20Well, he must be losing it anyway.
46:26The unadjusted last January was 6.6.
46:30That's a high month seasonally.
46:35So it was seasonally adjusted and announced at, I believe, 6.2.
46:41Then it declined through the fall, and in May it was 5.3.
46:48It was a steady decline one month after the next unemployment decline.
46:51So it declined by...
46:531.3 years.
46:54This is this particular year that we are in.
46:58So, two months ago, it was 5.3.
47:03Now, in unadjusted, unemployment actually declined during this first five months of the year, 6.6 to 5.3.
47:12Seasonally adjusted, you expect unemployment to decline.
47:17So, the figures were more or less stable through that period.
47:23From
47:24May to June, unemployment went up again.
47:28And the actual figure was, I believe, 6.2.
47:34But usually it goes up more than that.
47:37So seasonally adjusted.
47:39They said it went from 6% or 6.2 to 5.6, whereas it actually went from 5.3 to 6.2.
47:51And so it's that kind of a picture.
47:56And also they think because it was the first month of the year that they adjusted it too much that the property over-adjusted the first month, I mean the first week of the month.
48:04That's right.
48:07Well, this will be the first week.
48:07Well, this one doesn't have the same.
48:09Wherever this one falls, there's no holiday around it.
48:12The school leaving date is not involved.
48:16There's nothing special about the August survey week, as far as I know, so that people will read this as being a sort of a verification one way or another of whatever was said about that June figure.
48:41I just can't believe that's the case, unless there is a very, very profound change taking place in the whole economic system.
49:17George, some of them were saying that unemployment would be at 7% now.
49:23And they were saying that the rent rate was saying back in 1969 it didn't make any difference what you did.
49:30The plant and equipment spending was just going to go way up so fast.
49:34And there's just no way to turn off the boom.
49:38So he was wrong on that side.
49:40One of the reasons why I suggested to Paul that he
49:43in his presentation to you last friday that he put down those bars of what the various forecasters said is just to show if we were if we wind up with a gnp of say 1055 or something like that
50:03That week, the 1065 will be closer to the fact than two-thirds of the forecasters.
50:10Alan Greenspan, who is on our side, and the guy we respect here, is 1031.
50:15So he was just way, way off.
50:18Well, he's too low.
50:19He's way low, yeah.
50:23So you have those extremes.
50:25Yeah.
50:25Buckle off.
50:27Two other things on my list have to do with the budget.
50:30First of all, on the defense budget, they are just sort of waiting for Henry and take whatever lead he gives.
50:42And we're, as I envisage the way you want that work, we just don't do very much on that subject.
50:53Now, I think that we have a situation where...
50:56There are a lot of very knowledgeable and effective resources in the OMB to work on the defense.
51:04Absolutely.
51:05So that... No, I don't think we don't do that.
51:12What I'm trying to get out of Henry to shake out of the whole thing is a fundamental change in regard to the mix.
51:15But as far as what the budgeteers do for you and making defense take it up like everybody else, go ahead.
51:31In other words, you can't give them a certain number to work at.
51:33No, there's nothing that I'm concerned about.
51:34I think we've just got to take a look to see how the hell we can change the next...
51:36give the Flyboys less and the Navy more, or maybe, maybe what happens the other way around.
51:43My own instinct on the Defense Department, from having messed around with it now for a year, is that the Navy is being shortchanged, and we need to do more there, so we have different things.
51:59That the Air Force is not only
52:01uh out of phase in terms of their weapon system but that they're way over man and they haven't done the job of taking down their structure the way the other services have so they're fat in a manpower sense but the army is is uh in the most serious need of good management of any of the services that it is
52:26It has just not been run very well.
52:30And that it's in desperate need of a good strong hand.
52:34That there is this big soft spot in the bases.
52:40So that represents a sort of something that's out of bounds as far as we're concerned.
52:45We're guarding it that way.
52:47But that at some point in time, after the election or whatever,
52:51But that represents an area where the defense budget can be brought down without injuring the effectors.
53:01Oh, I'm not sure we've waked you down long enough, unless you'd like to have an arm's effect on MPs.
53:10But, uh, then we... That's what I mean.
53:12I think we've done a good job.
53:12We really haven't grabbed it, just because we haven't grabbed this intelligence thing.
53:17The intelligence is another.
53:18Captain, of course, you said cut sex 25% out, so I'm...
53:20And we do have this effort with Henry, and as I understand it there, we are more or less constrained by our work with Henry, as we don't move ahead independently in the intelligence arena.
53:37We do it in conjunction with Henry, and that means that we don't...
53:43We can't move, and I've told Cap, well, Cap, we just can't do that until we get this considered.
53:52The president approves the general plan, and there we have this whole problem of how bold to be.
54:00And I think there is a program, a bold program, that I think will produce a better intelligence system.
54:11and will save us a lot of money.
54:16Uh, I'm not so sure Henry shares that view.
54:33He knows a lot more about it than I do, but I don't know.
54:34See, but he's wrong.
54:34I mean, Henry builds big staffs, too.
54:35He's a staff owner.
54:36And, uh, on that one, when it comes to the staffs out here, it's just coming down on the toll roads, too.
54:38The CIA, the FBI, and the rest of it just are, you know, those people, you know.
54:40At some stage in this, I'd like to, uh,
54:41get a half, three quarters of an hour of your time to go through some of the background of this intelligence setup as we've flagged it out.
54:50The defense area is the area where all the money is.
54:57And if you put that out of bounds, then there's not a lot you can do.
55:00You can do something with the CIA, but they really don't have to spend all that much money.
55:09On the general budget,
55:10business.
55:13We're moving ahead on the 250 guidance.
55:21We think we can get it with toughness.
55:31But I think we have to flip the chart.
55:31It just isn't acceptable to just continue to let it go up.
55:34particularly in 73, let's say, here we are.
55:53Now we can say, as I said yesterday, now we're trying to pick up the lag in this region.
55:55Therefore, we have to find an unbalanced budget this year and an unbalanced budget next year.
55:57And so you come on next year and say, oh, we're going to unbalance the budget to $30, $40 billion next year, man.
55:59Can't do it.
55:59It just will not count.
56:00It won't set.
56:00It won't save.
56:00That's what I think.
56:02In terms of my personal outlook and philosophy, we'd like nothing better than a real effort to get this budget down.
56:12I see how difficult it is to do that.
56:15There are two related things that I would mention.
56:20One, we told you about this problem of the average grade level rising from 7.3 to 7.9.
56:29Basically, in the last four years, it's been a very rapid increase.
56:50We have a program for turning that around.
56:51And it's very, it'll be very rough going with the agencies.
56:52But it can be done.
56:52And I understand we have a cabinet meeting possibly next Tuesday.
56:57Yeah.
56:57Maybe, probably Tuesday or Thursday.
56:58I could talk about this program in general terms, the problem and the program, and we could launch it then.
57:13It can't be done unless you sort of round the table a little bit and say this has to be done.
57:20I believe that it is just essential because the personnel costs of government are going up so fast.
57:31The Defense Department is clearly with payroll about 60% of the total cost.
57:39It's a very labor-intensive industry.
57:41They've got to figure out ways over the long run to handle the whole thing differently.
57:55And the same is true of government generally.
58:01We just have to be more efficient.
58:02We have to be more considered in the way people are put into these higher-priced jobs.
58:05So I'll be prepared if it turns out that's a reasonable agenda item.
58:07But it's something that I think any cabinet officer who's thought about personnel problems
58:10We'll listen to it and know that it's going to cause him a lot of difficulty.
58:18So it'll take a push and... We'll get him.
58:23We'll get him.
58:23One last thing.
58:24Maury Sands has a... We've been working with him on the minority business enterprise subject.
58:32And this is an area where I think some good work has been done
58:41it's very difficult to figure out a reasonable basis for any amount, any particular number, for spending under a new program, which he has concocted and which we have gone along with.
58:56So, as a result of a lot of discussion back and forth, we have said that a program at roughly the $65 million level is as much as we can see.
59:09Actually, that's more than...
59:11that i think he can really spend effectively because this is essentially a consulting firm type of operation now lori feels that that is uh not nearly enough and he's he's appealing
59:36My suggestion, and I'll try to bring this in a much more considerate way when he really does it, would be that rather than raise him just as an object lesson around the captain, that maybe you ought to give us, Cap and I, a little help for having gone too far already and knock it down a little bit.
1:00:00And that can be done because we're already late enough in the fiscal year
1:00:06So that when his program is introduced now, the way Congress is going, he's not going to get anything much going in this fiscal year anyway.
1:00:21So that there's room to knock it down a little bit.
1:00:24The thing is that we've got to start putting out signals now in terms of supplementals, all these things that are going into fiscal 72 that it's building a problem for 73.
1:00:35You may have a bigger income in fiscal 72 than me.
1:00:57I think we will.
1:00:57I just don't.
1:00:58I keep it down where it is and scare everybody with a budget and all that sort of thing.
1:00:59But George, I think this economy is, I don't know, I must have been maybe influenced by Donald Friedman.
1:01:02But I watch this, that's why I say this, retail sales.
1:01:03I think that people...
1:01:04Well, their profits are moving up sharply.
1:01:24That was a big reason for the down of revisions in the fiscal 71 budget.
1:01:28And I think that bounce back has been a surprise to Treasury just as the amount it was down surprised the Treasury.
1:01:46So I think our estimates now are on the low side for actual revenue.
1:01:47But we'll just keep it that way for now.
1:01:48Keep it low and let it ride.
1:01:49Is there anything more in terms of the... How much did you say the Congress has added to our budget, to the 372 budget, or 86 centimeters?
1:01:52Well, it's more like seven to eight.
1:02:10And we have some big appropriation bills coming down.
1:02:12Agriculture and the APB.
1:02:12Can that case be made?
1:02:13Can we make it this year so that it's clear?
1:02:14Or are they going to take it a lot of offense?
1:02:16They can't do that.
1:02:17They'll never make it a lot of offense.
1:02:17I think that point should be made every time publicly you can.
1:02:19If the Congress is adding $8 million to our budget, I just put it right to them.
1:02:20Is that the case?
1:02:21Yes, that's the case.
1:02:21Okay.
1:02:23We can talk about the president's budget and then the Congress's added budget.
1:02:29So I think our threat, we couldn't talk about that.
1:02:35Well, in 71, as I've talked about that, it's in terms of we stayed within the full employment revenues, but that was only because of the discipline imposed by your...
1:02:47Right.
1:02:47Which is also what you're saying.
1:02:49We said we'd stay within it, and we did it.
1:03:08So that was responsible, and that got through a few stories.
1:03:09That's what I saw.
1:03:10And we got away with this defense, moving that defense money.
1:03:11It was a little flip about it, but nothing much.
1:03:12So we got that.
1:03:12On the Congress now, exceeding our budget, I think that has to be a... Everybody in college should have at least talking paper.
1:03:16All the administration people should have at their talkers.
1:03:17Anybody about the budget is working damage.
1:03:18The only thing that has made me hesitate a little bit and maybe this is now not a good reason given your views is that
1:03:44If we project that too much, they'll say, well, you've got a good, easy way to solve the problem, and it is drop revenue sharing.
1:03:56And since that's one of your initiatives that we've been pushing on, we haven't wanted to get ourselves into that posture where we have to choose between revenue sharing and responsible budgeting.
1:04:10But I suppose that's one that we'll
1:04:11We'll be able to see before long whether anything is going to come out on that.
1:04:30All right.
1:04:31You can position yourself.
1:04:31All right.
1:04:31Okay.
1:04:32All right.
1:04:42Where you going?
1:04:52Come on, let's do it.
1:04:53Come on, where you going?
1:04:53Heal me.
1:04:53Yeah, I want to heal you.
1:04:54I don't know.
1:05:08Everybody under fire?
1:05:18Yeah.