{"conversationCode":"551-008","tapeNumber":551,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-551-008","startDateTime":"1971-07-29T16:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-07-29T16:33:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Jul-1971","startTime":"12:24 PM","endDate":"29-Jul-1971","endTime":"12:33 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Williams, Harold; Gill, Rhoda; Pendleton, Terry; Perrymore, Dale; Bennett, Nora; Page, Vickie; Renberg, Timothy; Gilley, Jerry; Wade, Deborah; Gremillian, Jerry; Cullen, Jo Ann; Rock, Frances; Cashen, Henry C., II; White House photographer;","description":"On July 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Harold Williams, Rhoda Gill, Terry Pendleton, Dale Perrymore, Nora Bennett, Vickie Page, Timothy Renberg, Jerry Gilley, Deborah Wade, Jerry Gremillian, Jo Ann Cullen, Frances Rock, Henry C. Cashen, II, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:24 pm to 12:33 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 551-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 551-8\n                                                                     Conv. No. 551-6 (cont.)\nDate: July 29, 1971\nTime: 12:24 pm - 12:33 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Harold Williams, Rhoda Gill, Terry Pendleton, Dale Perrymore, Nora\nBennett, Vickie Page, Timothy Renberg, Kirk White, Jerry Gilley, Deborah Wade, Jerry\nGremillian, Jo Ann Cullen, Frances Rock, and Henry C. Cashen, II; the White House\nphotographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.\n\n     Greetings\n\n     Introduction\n\n     General conversation\n\n     Plaque presentation\n\n     Distributive Education Clubs of America\n           -History\n           -Work\n           -Benefits\n\n     Presidential gifts\n\n     Music box\n\n     Presidential gifts\n\n     Blazer presentation\n\n     Forthcoming meeting in Salt Lake City\n          -Invitation\n\n     Presidential pens\n                                             25\n\n                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF\n\n                                      Tape Subject Log\n                                        (rev. 10/08)\n\n\n\n             -Bill signing\n                   -Distribution\n\n      World peace\n\nWilliams et al. left at 12:33 pm.","filename":["551-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:39:19","tapeEnd":"03:49:16","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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things."},{"start":255.24,"end":256.66,"text":"There's nothing that we can do about it."},{"start":256.68,"end":257.76,"text":"There's a lot of these things that we can do about it."},{"start":257.78,"end":258.86,"text":"There's a lot of these things that we can do about it."},{"start":259.01,"end":263.28,"text":"."},{"start":263.3,"end":266.1,"text":"."},{"start":266.38,"end":266.5,"text":"."},{"start":267.5,"end":268.08,"text":"."},{"start":268.1,"end":270.11,"text":"."},{"start":270.89,"end":288.53,"text":"."},{"start":289.2,"end":316.63,"text":"But I do."},{"start":320.22,"end":345.74,"text":"You're all going to be exposed to it."},{"start":345.76,"end":346.7,"text":"They're all going to be exposed to it."},{"start":346.73,"end":347.49,"text":"They're all going to be exposed to it."},{"start":347.51,"end":348.27,"text":"They're all going to be exposed to it."},{"start":350.07,"end":369.22,"text":"Well, we'd like to give you something right here."},{"start":369.24,"end":369.86,"text":"Well, this is cute, by the way."},{"start":369.88,"end":371.7,"text":"You might want to see this."},{"start":371.72,"end":372.9,"text":"That's the, uh..."},{"start":372.92,"end":375.49,"text":"I've met it many, of course, and it's certainly just COG."},{"start":375.51,"end":376.35,"text":"So this game I opened up, see what it was."},{"start":378.22,"end":384.57,"text":"Now, let's see."},{"start":390.07,"end":395.02,"text":"We want you each to have a little bit of an entrance."},{"start":395.04,"end":398.4,"text":"This is for the boys."},{"start":398.43,"end":399.03,"text":"This is the prison conference."},{"start":399.05,"end":402.05,"text":"You see, this is the center of the picture."},{"start":402.07,"end":405.68,"text":"This is the seal, which is the core."},{"start":405.7,"end":406.64,"text":"And here's the prison conference."},{"start":407.19,"end":410.46,"text":"So that's your ."},{"start":411.54,"end":434.41,"text":"We brought a lot 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job."},{"start":553.19,"end":558.4,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":562.84,"end":568.71,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":570.89,"end":582,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":590.05,"end":593.46,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with representatives from the Distributive Education Clubs of America (DECA), accompanied by Henry C. Cashen II, to discuss the organization's work and receive commemorative gifts including a plaque and a blazer. During the exchange, the President presented the group with official presidential gifts and pens while briefly commenting on the challenges of national service and global leadership. 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