{"conversationCode":"555-012","tapeNumber":555,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-555-012","startDateTime":"1971-08-05T21:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-05T21:22:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Aug-1971","startTime":"5:16 PM","endDate":"5-Aug-1971","endTime":"5:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On August 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:16 pm and 5:22 pm. 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(“Bob”) Haldeman entered at an unknown time after 5:16 pm.\n\n                -Duration\n                -President’s possible comments\n                      -Clark MacGregor\n                      -Gifts\n                            -Franklin Mint medallions\n\nAn unknown person entered and left at an unknown time after 5:16 pm.\n\n     Refreshment\n          -Cabinet Room\n\n     The President’s schedule\n          -Forthcoming meeting\n                -Gifts\n                      -Compacts\n          -Instructions for Stephen B. Bull\n                -Tightness of schedule\n                      -Farm editors\n                      -Congressional Half Hour [Early Bird reception]\n                      -Henry A. Kissinger\n          -Schedule for August 6, 1971\n                -MacGregor\n                      -Republican leadership meeting\n\nHaldeman left at 5:22 pm.","filename":["555-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:19:07","tapeEnd":"04:41:26","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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(\"Bob\")","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"555-011","nextCode":"555-013","transcript":[{"start":30.37,"end":35.52,"text":"12 and 13, number one and six, you've been hit."},{"start":35.54,"end":35.96,"text":"Bring it here for me."},{"start":35.98,"end":36.7,"text":"I had an argument with the feminist."},{"start":63.8,"end":85.42,"text":"if it doesn't go too long, who's in charge of that?"},{"start":85.44,"end":87.12,"text":"I mean, I could, or is that supposed to sort of jackass along for a couple of hours?"},{"start":87.14,"end":87.58,"text":"It should be long, so."},{"start":87.6,"end":88.36,"text":"We, I know it's hard to keep you here."},{"start":88.38,"end":91.23,"text":"You're gonna have to, you're gonna have to say something the other way or close it out and then I'll tell them to have a good night and leave."},{"start":99.54,"end":124.03,"text":"Sorry."},{"start":124.06,"end":125.58,"text":"Dale, I just want Clark not to set it up that they sit down and have a talk."},{"start":125.6,"end":125.66,"text":"No."},{"start":125.68,"end":125.86,"text":"It's not."},{"start":125.88,"end":126.34,"text":"We've got to get there."},{"start":126.36,"end":127.56,"text":"For example, if anybody planned this, can we give them time?"},{"start":127.58,"end":128.2,"text":"Yes, Franklin meant medallions."},{"start":128.22,"end":128.84,"text":"Franklin meant medallions, sir."},{"start":130.76,"end":149.63,"text":"They're nice."},{"start":149.66,"end":149.75,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":149.78,"end":149.88,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":149.9,"end":150.48,"text":"And they're a little unusual."},{"start":150.5,"end":151.12,"text":"We don't have a lot of them."},{"start":151.14,"end":151.54,"text":"Some of them do."},{"start":179.68,"end":199.92,"text":"run the schedule quite as tight, even though it is after, you know, sort of an end."},{"start":199.94,"end":203.88,"text":"And as we do a day like this, you know what I mean, when you just go bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and have to go right over the reception, it's a little bit, okay, a little bit harder."},{"start":203.91,"end":204.65,"text":"I think the looser schedule is first."},{"start":204.67,"end":205.35,"text":"I think it's more in our interest."},{"start":205.37,"end":206.57,"text":"And, I don't know, I guess we had to add quite a few things."},{"start":206.59,"end":207.21,"text":"I'm just not going to complain."},{"start":207.68,"end":219.6,"text":"I just started."},{"start":219.62,"end":220.04,"text":"I just don't like it."},{"start":220.06,"end":220.6,"text":"I scheduled where I had to."},{"start":220.62,"end":222.44,"text":"I had to do it with the fire managers and grab myself up and go and talk to my chairweaver."},{"start":222.46,"end":223.74,"text":"You know, it's just a little bit too much at the end of the day."},{"start":223.76,"end":225.37,"text":"You wear it down and it's very hard to come back the next day and see you again."},{"start":239.4,"end":258.89,"text":"I think it's better big ones."},{"start":258.91,"end":259.13,"text":"Well, yeah."},{"start":259.15,"end":260.35,"text":"And the way to avoid it is to spread them out a little more."},{"start":260.37,"end":261.05,"text":"So we don't pack them all at once."},{"start":261.07,"end":262.26,"text":"Like this, we already really packed every one of us, right?"},{"start":262.28,"end":262.84,"text":"We don't do this many times."},{"start":262.86,"end":263.36,"text":"And we can cut them down."},{"start":263.38,"end":263.8,"text":"We can cut them down."},{"start":263.82,"end":264.24,"text":"We can cut them down."},{"start":264.26,"end":264.68,"text":"We can cut them down."},{"start":264.7,"end":265.12,"text":"We can cut them down."},{"start":265.14,"end":265.56,"text":"We can cut them down."},{"start":265.58,"end":266,"text":"We can cut them down."},{"start":266.32,"end":290.63,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":290.65,"end":290.75,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":290.77,"end":290.87,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":290.89,"end":290.99,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":291.01,"end":291.11,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":291.13,"end":291.23,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":291.94,"end":309,"text":"It's just a four, son."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. 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