{"conversationCode":"556-019","tapeNumber":556,"conversationNumber":19,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-556-019","startDateTime":"1971-08-06T16:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-06T16:37:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Aug-1971","startTime":"12:21 PM","endDate":"6-Aug-1971","endTime":"12:37 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); White House operator; Dagney, Louise H.; Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On August 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, White House operator, Louise H. Dagney, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:21 pm to 12:37 pm. 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Bush\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:21 pm and\n\n12:23 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 556-19A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 7-71]\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n     Bush\n            -Schedule\n                 -Trip to New Hampshire\n                       -Barbara Bush\n\n     President's schedule\n          -Trip to New Hampshire\n                 -Nursing home\n                      -Governor of New Hampshire\n                           -Louis C. Wyman\n                           -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n                      -Other guests\n\nThe President talked with Louise H. Dagney between 12:23 pm and 12:24 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 556-19B]\n\n[See Conversation No. 7-72]\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n     President's schedule\n\nHenry A. Kissinger entered at 12:24 pm.\n\n     Vietnam negotiations\n          -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston's article\n               -North Vietnam objections\n               -George P. Shultz\n               -Background briefing\n               -Geneva Accords\n               -Paris\n               -US withdrawal\n\n          -Nguyen Van Thieu\n          -Shultz\n          -Xuan Thuy\n               -US withdrawal\n                    -Timing\n\nPeople's Republic of China [PRC]\n     -New York Times article\n           -Xuan’s comment\n                - Red China compared to        PRC\n\nOrval H. Hansen\n\nMarvin L. Esch\n\nPRC\n     -Comments about Kissinger\n     -Admiration for intelligence\n     -Comments about the President\nVietnam negotiations\n     -Reston article\n           -Economic assistance\n           -Xuan’s comments\n                -Seven points\n                -US withdrawal\n                -Economic assistance\n     -Kissinger’s meeting\n           -North Vietnam line to USSR\n                -US advisors\n                -Aid\n                -Xuan\n                      -US withdrawal\n                            -Timing\n     -Le Duc Tho\n           -Return\n     -Nguyen Van Thieu\n           -Election\n           -Possible action by North Vietnam\n                -Xuan\n     -Statement of principles\n     -Prisoners of war [POWs]\n\n          -Thieu\n          -USSR\n          -Chances for settlement\n          -Thieu\n          -Lt. Gen. Duong Van Minh\n\n     President's schedule\n          -National Security Council [NSC] meeting\n          -Arthur F. 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Bye."},{"start":7781.16,"end":7783.82,"text":"Rydw i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7783.84,"end":7785.48,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7785.5,"end":7787.36,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7787.38,"end":7788.06,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7788.14,"end":7788.86,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7788.88,"end":7789.54,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7789.56,"end":7790.26,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7790.28,"end":7791.7,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7791.72,"end":7792.58,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7793.06,"end":7793.98,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7794.06,"end":7794.86,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7794.94,"end":7796.11,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7796.13,"end":7801.69,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7801.71,"end":7804.21,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7804.23,"end":7804.97,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7804.99,"end":7805.59,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7805.61,"end":7807.01,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7807.05,"end":7809.21,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwrdd â George."},{"start":7809.23,"end":7809.59,"text":"Roeddwn i wedi cwr"},{"start":7811.66,"end":7815.81,"text":"Rwy'n cofio ei fod wedi cymryd rhywun arall, ac fe wnaethon nhw'r holl bethau."},{"start":7815.83,"end":7822.68,"text":"Beth roedd e eisiau ei wneud oedd mynd i mewn i'r ysgol, ac roedd e'n mynd i fynd i'r ysgol, ac roedd e'n mynd i fynd i'r ysgol, ac roedd e'n mynd i fynd i'r ysgol."},{"start":7822.72,"end":7823.18,"text":"Mae hynny'n dda."},{"start":7824.02,"end":7824.46,"text":"Mae hynny'n wych."},{"start":7824.56,"end":7827.48,"text":"Ac mae hynny'n rhaid i ni gael cymaint o bobl ar hynny."},{"start":7827.74,"end":7832.88,"text":"Nid yw hynny'n rhaid i ni gael cymaint o bobl ar hynny."},{"start":7832.94,"end":7835.82,"text":"Nid yw hynny'n rhaid i ni gael cymaint o bobl ar hynny."},{"start":7835.94,"end":7838.98,"text":"Nid yw hynny'n rhaid i ni gael cymaint o bobl ar hynny."},{"start":7839.12,"end":7841.36,"text":"Nid yw hynny'n rhaid i ni gael cymaint o bobl ar hynny."},{"start":7841.5,"end":7844.12,"text":"Nid yw hynny'n rhaid i ni gael cymaint o bobl ar hynny."},{"start":7844.16,"end":7847.27,"text":"Nid yw hynny'n rhaid i ni gael cymaint o bobl ar hynny."},{"start":7847.33,"end":7851.19,"text":"Nid yw hynny'n rhaid i ni gael cymaint o bobl ar hynny."},{"start":7851.35,"end":7851.37,"text":"N"},{"start":7852.57,"end":7853.83,"text":"Diolch yn fawr."},{"start":7885.81,"end":7892.59,"text":"Rwy'n meddwl y byddaf yn gwneud hynny i bawb, ac wedyn dwi'n ei ddangos yn dda iawn."},{"start":7893.17,"end":7906.01,"text":"Ac rydyn ni'n gobeithio bod llawer mwy o ddiogelwyr yma na'r holl un yma yn yr adeilad."},{"start":7906.05,"end":7906.65,"text":"Diolch."},{"start":7906.97,"end":7911.63,"text":"Diolch yn fawr iawn."},{"start":7912.35,"end":7913.13,"text":"Mae nhw'n chwarae'r gwaith yn wych."},{"start":7913.15,"end":7914.25,"text":"Hefyd, roeddech chi'n gweld mewn adroddiad heddiw heddiw,"},{"start":7942.42,"end":7942.82,"text":"Rydyn ni'n ceisio."},{"start":7942.84,"end":7945.86,"text":"Wel, ar y llawr llawr, maen nhw'n dweud, mae swyddogion uchel wedi dweud, ie, nid ydym ni wedi'i gwybod, ac rydyn ni'n ceisio'n amserol i fynd i'r Ysgol."},{"start":7964.54,"end":7967.98,"text":"Felly hefyd pan ddywedodd hynny'r hyn rwyf wedi'i gofyn yn fy nghymryd, na fyddan nhw'n mynd i ddweud unrhyw beth mwy na dwi wedi'i dweud yn fy nghymryd."},{"start":7968,"end":7968.04,"text":"Ie."},{"start":7968.06,"end":7969.16,"text":"Wel, nid ydyn nhw eisiau mynd i'r Cenedlaeth, wrth gwrs."},{"start":7969.18,"end":7970.26,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw eisiau mynd i'r Cenedlaeth, wrth gwrs."},{"start":7970.28,"end":7971.4,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw eisiau mynd i'r Cenedlaeth, wrth gwrs."},{"start":7971.44,"end":7972.44,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw eisiau mynd i'r Cenedlaeth, wrth gwrs."},{"start":7972.46,"end":7973.54,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw eisiau mynd i'r Cenedlaeth, wrth gwrs."},{"start":7973.56,"end":7974.1,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw eisiau mynd"},{"start":7994.53,"end":7998.21,"text":"Ond unwaith eto, ddim llwyddo'r ffug."},{"start":7998.27,"end":8008.22,"text":"Yn unrhyw bwynt, nid oedd Wang yn gadael i'r U.S. ddewis datganiad ar gyfer llwyddo'r ffrindiau drwg."},{"start":8008.28,"end":8016.98,"text":"Ac wrth i'r U.S. ddewis bod China eisiau defnyddio'r ffrindiau drwg, nid oedd Wang yn gadael, ond nid oedd yn gadael."},{"start":8021.02,"end":8021.16,"text":"Oh, shit!"},{"start":8046.5,"end":8046.98,"text":"Diolch yn fawr i chi."},{"start":8061.34,"end":8062.72,"text":"Mae hefyd yn ddiddorol bod nhw'n defnyddio fi'n bersonol."},{"start":8062.76,"end":8063.86,"text":"Wel, mae hynny'n eich helpu, rydych chi'n gwybod."},{"start":8063.88,"end":8066.18,"text":"Ac y gallan nhw ei ddweud, oherwydd maen nhw'n gwerthu'r gwyllt, nid duw, ond y gwyllt."},{"start":8066.2,"end":8067.16,"text":"Y gallan nhw'i ddweud yn fwy na dweud hynny."},{"start":8067.18,"end":8068.8,"text":"Rydych chi'n gwybod, mae hynny'n golygu y mae'n rhaid i ni ddewis hynny."},{"start":8068.82,"end":8069.88,"text":"Dydyn nhw ddim wedi dweud unrhyw gerddi wrthych chi."},{"start":8087.9,"end":8088.78,"text":"Ond rydyn ni ddim wedi cwrdd â'r stryd hwnnw."},{"start":8088.8,"end":8089.7,"text":"Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni ddim yn gwneud hynny."},{"start":8089.72,"end":8090.7,"text":"Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni ddim yn gwneud hynny."},{"start":8090.72,"end":8091.68,"text":"Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni ddim yn gwneud hynny."},{"start":8091.7,"end":8092.6,"text":"Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni ddim yn gwneud hynny."},{"start":8092.62,"end":8093.52,"text":"Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni ddim yn gwneud hynny."},{"start":8093.54,"end":8094.44,"text":"Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni ddim yn gwneud hynny."},{"start":8094.46,"end":8095.36,"text":"Dwi'n meddwl y byddwn ni ddim yn gwneud hynny."},{"start":8119.11,"end":8122.39,"text":"Nid oes unrhyw ffordd y dywedodd Wang bod y negosiad amdanynt yn ymgysylltu â'r set o bwyntiau, ond dim ond yn ymgysylltu â'r ffordd arall."},{"start":8122.49,"end":8125.39,"text":"Yr unig ffordd arbennig ar gyfer y DU yw i gael yn gwbl allan o Gymru, ond nid oes unrhyw ffordd fel cymorth arweinyddol."},{"start":8125.41,"end":8126.39,"text":"Mae cymorth economaidd yn gwerthfawr."},{"start":8126.41,"end":8126.77,"text":"Ac mae hynny, eto,"},{"start":8140.87,"end":8142.47,"text":"y llyfn sydd wedi dod i'r Cymru a'r Iwerddon am fy ngwylio."},{"start":8142.49,"end":8148.35,"text":"Rwyf wedi'i ddweud yn amlwg, roeddwn i eisiau cadw 12,000 o awgrymiadau yno, oherwydd fy mhrofiad gyda'r rhai hyn yma yw eu bod nhw'n hoffi adrodd ac maen nhw'n cymryd i mi wneud hynny."},{"start":8162.48,"end":8164.83,"text":"Rwy'n gwybod bod rhaid i ni wneud hynny, ond mae'n rhaid i mi gael rhywbeth i'w ddefnyddio."},{"start":8164.85,"end":8168.41,"text":"Felly byddaf yn mynd i lawr i'r N ac i'r A. Nid oedd y pwynt yn gweithio i ddweud nad yw'r U.S. yn canolbwyntio ar hyn o bryd i'r holl fuddsoddiadau."},{"start":8168.43,"end":8168.61,"text":"Mae'n dda."},{"start":8168.63,"end":8169.29,"text":"Rwy'n meddwl bod yna'r cyfan."},{"start":8169.31,"end":8169.35,"text":"Ie."},{"start":8198.99,"end":8200.61,"text":"Mae'r Prif Weinidog'r unrhyw beth sy'n gallu'i gadw arno yw hyn."},{"start":8200.69,"end":8202.17,"text":"I gael eu cymryd i chi, mae'r penderfyniad mwyaf anodd i'w gwneud."},{"start":8202.19,"end":8203.83,"text":"Ond mae hynny'n rhan effeithiol o'r ffordd rydyn ni'n ei ddweud nawr."},{"start":8203.85,"end":8205.49,"text":"Dyna pam rydw i'n gwneud sefydliad mor anodd ar ddiwedd y sesiwn diwethaf."},{"start":8205.51,"end":8208.15,"text":"Nawr, os ydyn nhw'n meddwl y byddwn ni'n mynd i'w llwyddo yn unrhyw ffordd, yna byddant yn aros ar ddiwedd y sesiwn diwethaf."},{"start":8227.76,"end":8232.62,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i ni ddod i mewn i'u llyfrau a dweud nad ydym yn mynd i'w llwyddo, ond os ydyn nhw'n gwneud adroddiad o ffyrdd sy'n rhoi'r llwyddo lawer gwell iddyn nhw yn yr argyfwng na'i heb."},{"start":8232.64,"end":8234.62,"text":"Os ydyn nhw'n cael amgylchedd i'w gosod i'w llwyddo, yw'r peth y maen nhw'n ei wneud?"},{"start":8234.64,"end":8235.02,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw."},{"start":8235.04,"end":8235.3,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw."},{"start":8235.32,"end":8235.6,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw."},{"start":8235.62,"end":8235.92,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw."},{"start":8235.94,"end":8236.28,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw."},{"start":8236.3,"end":8236.66,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw."},{"start":8236.68,"end":8237.06,"text":"Nid ydyn nhw."},{"start":8258.83,"end":8259.49,"text":"Wel, mae'n dibynnu, Prif Weinidog."},{"start":8259.5,"end":8261.25,"text":"Dwi'n meddwl mai'r unig cyfle maen nhw gael yw gyda'r adroddiad hwnnw o brensiflau."},{"start":8261.27,"end":8262.09,"text":"Yn ogystal â hynny, maen nhw'n llwyddo."},{"start":8262.11,"end":8262.91,"text":"Ac yna byddan nhw'n llwyddo'r gweithredu."},{"start":8262.97,"end":8265.21,"text":"Ond yna, rydyn ni wedi cymryd chwe mis ac yna byddwn ni'n cymryd y ddau pwynt cyntaf o hynny."},{"start":8265.23,"end":8267.43,"text":"Ac yn olaf, byddwn ni'n cymryd cyfnod o gyfranogwyr arall wrth gwrs pan fyddwn ni'n gofyn."},{"start":8289.79,"end":8291.01,"text":"Wel nawr, mae hynny'n dal ymlaen yn y flwyddyn honno."},{"start":8291.07,"end":8294.03,"text":"Ond dydyn ni ddim yn dweud unrhyw beth mwy am chi oherwydd nad ydyn nhw wedi'i ddweud hynny'n gyffredinol."},{"start":8294.05,"end":8298.85,"text":"Ac oherwydd maen nhw wedi ddweud i'r Rheswm nawr bod hynny ddim, nid ydynt wedi'i sôn amdanyn nhw yn ofal, rhaid i ni sôn amdanyn nhw oherwydd mae'n gwneud rhywbeth amdanyn nhw."},{"start":8298.87,"end":8300.59,"text":"Rwy'n meddwl ein bod ni'n ymraeg i'r cyflawniad ac rydyn ni wedi cael popeth."},{"start":8330.22,"end":8332.04,"text":"Felly, rydych chi'n gweld, mae'r anoddau sydd wedi cael eu cyflawni wedi cael eu cyflawni."},{"start":8332.06,"end":8332.68,"text":"Maen nhw wedi cael eu cyflawni."},{"start":8332.7,"end":8333.25,"text":"Maen nhw'n gallu cyflawni."},{"start":8333.26,"end":8334.71,"text":"Felly, rydych chi'n gweld, mae'r anoddau sydd wedi cael eu cyflawni."},{"start":8334.73,"end":8336.11,"text":"Felly, rydych chi'n gweld, mae'r anoddau sydd wedi cael eu cyflawni."},{"start":8336.13,"end":8337.51,"text":"Felly, rydych chi'n gweld, mae'r anoddau sydd wedi cael eu cyflawni."},{"start":8337.53,"end":8338.83,"text":"Felly, rydych chi'n gweld, mae'r anoddau sydd wedi cael eu cyflawni."},{"start":8338.85,"end":8339.91,"text":"Felly, rydych chi'n gweld, mae'r anoddau sydd wedi cael"},{"start":8357.34,"end":8357.62,"text":"Mae'n dda iawn."},{"start":8357.64,"end":8357.92,"text":"Mae'n dda iawn."},{"start":8397.03,"end":8397.41,"text":"Diolch yn fawr iawn."},{"start":8454.31,"end":8455.11,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi siarad â chi amdanynt."},{"start":8455.13,"end":8455.83,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i ni ddweud wrthych chi."},{"start":8455.85,"end":8456.55,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i ni ddweud wrthych chi."},{"start":8456.57,"end":8457.27,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i ni ddweud wrthych chi."},{"start":8486.47,"end":8487.61,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud y byddwn ni'n gallu gwneud hynny."},{"start":8487.63,"end":8488.51,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud y byddwn ni'n gallu."},{"start":8494.1,"end":8494.62,"text":"Rwy'n gwneud rhywbeth bach."},{"start":8494.64,"end":8495.16,"text":"Rwy'n gwneud rhywbeth bach."},{"start":8495.18,"end":8495.7,"text":"Rwy'n gwneud rhywbeth bach."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":7622,"end":8496,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger met to discuss sensitive foreign policy issues, primarily focusing on ongoing Vietnam peace negotiations and the strategic implications of recent press coverage. 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