{"conversationCode":"559-009","tapeNumber":559,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-559-009","startDateTime":"1971-08-10T17:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-10T17:15:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Aug-1971","startTime":"1:10 PM","endDate":"10-Aug-1971","endTime":"1:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); DiChiara, Aldo F.; Castaldo, Crensenzi W.; Bell, George T.; White House photographer;","description":"On August 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Aldo F. DiChiara, Crensenzi W. Castaldo, George T. Bell, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:10 pm to 1:15 pm. 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Bell; the White\nHouse photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.\n[The recording begins while the conversation is already in progress]\n\n     Castaldo's name\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 06/14/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[559-009-w001]\n[Duration: 41s]\n\n     1964 election\n          -The President’s campaign work\n          -Barry M. Goldwater, Sr.\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n     Presentation of gifts\n     Plaque\n\n     Photograph\n\n     Expression of support for President\n\n     President's schedule\n           -Convention\n           -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]\n                 -Dallas\n           -Knights of Columbus\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n      Parochial schools\n           -Federal assistance\n                 -Supreme Court\n\n      Presentation of gifts\n           -Cufflinks\n           -Gold balls\n                 -Presidential seals\n\nDiChiara, et al. left at 1:15 pm.\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous archivists categorized this section as unintelligible. It has been rereviewed and\nreleased 06/14/2019.]\n[Unintelligible]\n[559-009-w002]\n[Duration: 5s]\n\n[This portion of the tape is mostly room noise with some muffled background conversation.]\n\n**********************************************************************","filename":["559-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:16:46","tapeEnd":"02:21:54","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","DiChiara, Aldo F.","Castaldo, Crensenzi W.","Bell, George T.","White House photographer"],"prevCode":"559-008","nextCode":"559-010","transcript":[{"start":4.28,"end":28.1,"text":"Yeah, I thought so."},{"start":28.12,"end":28.74,"text":"I wasn't running for president."},{"start":29.02,"end":47.59,"text":"No, you were not, sir."},{"start":47.61,"end":48.19,"text":"I was trying to help you out."},{"start":48.21,"end":48.61,"text":"That's correct, sir."},{"start":48.63,"end":51.11,"text":"And you came to, as we said, that time in Lexington County, and I was running for the 15th congressional district that year."},{"start":51.13,"end":52.05,"text":"That was when our friend Marigold was running."},{"start":52.07,"end":52.57,"text":"Yeah, that's interesting."},{"start":52.59,"end":53.85,"text":"Well, Barry looks a lot better today than he did then, as I do."},{"start":53.88,"end":55.52,"text":"Yeah, a lot of people now are beginning to realize that, yeah, he wasn't prepared."},{"start":55.54,"end":55.78,"text":"Here we are."},{"start":55.8,"end":56.04,"text":"Oh, come on."},{"start":56.06,"end":56.5,"text":"I guess I can hang up."},{"start":61.37,"end":70.99,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":71.01,"end":71.67,"text":"I'll be glad to take care of you."},{"start":79.22,"end":99.67,"text":"I had to go out throughout the nation, sir, and of course, this goes for all posts and members of this post, and we do have a certain, uh, we have, we have, you know, this is the right experience."},{"start":99.69,"end":102.95,"text":"Also, I'd like to point out, you had a word with that man, his, uh, on it as a message, and I'm sorry about that."},{"start":102.97,"end":104.1,"text":"It was a connection to what they both, both Nixon's war."},{"start":104.12,"end":104.36,"text":"So, pick up."},{"start":104.38,"end":104.78,"text":"Put that in on that."},{"start":106.77,"end":124.49,"text":"If you will, go to the director and get ready for that interview."},{"start":124.51,"end":126.62,"text":"And, uh, as I told you, uh, Val, you are going to send all this to me, Sam, to make sure that you do not."},{"start":126.64,"end":127.06,"text":"Just one other thing."},{"start":127.08,"end":129.12,"text":"For our present, I've been asked to have you fire at the Morpho Regiment, which here we are in person."},{"start":129.14,"end":130.22,"text":"You're going to bring them back to some of our people."},{"start":130.24,"end":131.52,"text":"They're not going to be able to make it in before it's too late."},{"start":131.76,"end":145.88,"text":"Mr. President, we're behind you 100%."},{"start":145.9,"end":146.7,"text":"Well, we say that we're behind you, too."},{"start":146.72,"end":147.43,"text":"Thank you very much, Mr. President."},{"start":147.44,"end":148.33,"text":"The organization is really a mere invention."},{"start":148.35,"end":149.75,"text":"I get it that you've been hooked up on me to be a president this year."},{"start":149.73,"end":173.13,"text":"You know, this will be the first time our President of the United States ever addressed the National Guard."},{"start":173.15,"end":173.39,"text":"That's true."},{"start":173.41,"end":173.79,"text":"Isn't that correct?"},{"start":173.81,"end":175.18,"text":"I didn't know that, but that inspired me, and I said, okay, I'll go."},{"start":175.2,"end":175.72,"text":"It's a great organization."},{"start":175.74,"end":176.2,"text":"Yes, it's not my level."},{"start":176.22,"end":176.92,"text":"They are a very great organization."},{"start":176.94,"end":177.46,"text":"Every agency is kind of..."},{"start":178.35,"end":197.84,"text":"Oh, I know, I know."},{"start":197.86,"end":198.8,"text":"I mean, it's correct that you support us on it."},{"start":198.82,"end":199.76,"text":"One thing, of course, we try to help out on it."},{"start":199.78,"end":203.58,"text":"The Supreme Court, when our Supreme Court president, you know, the Supreme Court office out of the box was at the, you know, trying to get us some assistance for your, for the broken school."},{"start":203.6,"end":203.7,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":203.72,"end":204.85,"text":"We argued the case, the case that we were arguing on it."},{"start":207.31,"end":226.67,"text":"There's the president of the Congress."},{"start":226.69,"end":227.09,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":227.11,"end":227.91,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President, for your wife."},{"start":227.93,"end":228.33,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":228.35,"end":230.13,"text":"This is the beast that was made the CEO of the President of the United States of America."},{"start":230.15,"end":230.41,"text":"His daughter."},{"start":230.43,"end":230.59,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":230.61,"end":231.01,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":231.03,"end":231.67,"text":"This is the presidential office."},{"start":231.69,"end":232.57,"text":"This is the president of the House of Seals."},{"start":232.59,"end":232.99,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":233.7,"end":246.66,"text":"Thank you, sir."},{"start":246.68,"end":246.98,"text":"Thank you, sir."},{"start":247,"end":247.3,"text":"Thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Aldo F. DiChiara, Crensenzi W. Castaldo, and George T. Bell for a brief ceremonial visit that included a photo opportunity and the presentation of gifts, such as cufflinks and presidential seals. The participants engaged in light conversation regarding the 1964 presidential campaign and Barry Goldwater before discussing Nixon's upcoming speaking engagements, including an address to the Veterans of Foreign Wars. 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