{"conversationCode":"559-016","tapeNumber":559,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-559-016","startDateTime":"1971-08-10T18:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-10T18:37:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Aug-1971","startTime":"2:33 PM","endDate":"10-Aug-1971","endTime":"2:37 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Connally, John B.;","description":"On August 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:33 pm to 2:37 pm. 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Archivist: DR]\n[National Security]\n[559-016-w001]\n[Duration: 1m 7s]\n\n[See Conversation No. 007-085]\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[End of telephone conversation]","filename":["559-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:46:34","tapeEnd":"02:49:04","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Connally, John B."],"prevCode":"559-015","nextCode":"559-017","transcript":[{"start":0.28,"end":1.89,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.91,"end":26.89,"text":"Well, what's the report today?"},{"start":26.91,"end":27.48,"text":"Yeah, that's it."},{"start":27.5,"end":27.84,"text":"Sir, quite a bit."},{"start":27.86,"end":28.54,"text":"It says that it's all comparative."},{"start":31.77,"end":55.16,"text":"Just jump in, sir."},{"start":55.18,"end":57.91,"text":"Well, your deal is that unless it becomes more unstable, we can still go with our plan on the 8th rather than being pushed further down."},{"start":57.93,"end":58.71,"text":"That's the real decision you're making."},{"start":59.06,"end":81.79,"text":"We have to be pushed, we'll be pushed, but it would be better to hold on today."},{"start":81.81,"end":82.33,"text":"All right, well, uh, yeah."},{"start":82.36,"end":83.74,"text":"No, I guess, uh, you're going to go along with your plan, aren't you?"},{"start":83.76,"end":83.86,"text":"Good."},{"start":83.88,"end":84.58,"text":"You'll go back, you'll go to Texas?"},{"start":84.6,"end":85.28,"text":"Oh, of course, of course, brother."},{"start":85.3,"end":86.42,"text":"We should be able, we will be able to do it in a second."},{"start":86.44,"end":87,"text":"We better do it in a second."},{"start":87.02,"end":87.36,"text":"Good, good, good."},{"start":88.41,"end":106.87,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":106.89,"end":108.5,"text":"The only thing that I wanted you to take a look at was to have the Joint Chiefs."},{"start":108.52,"end":108.7,"text":"Oh, good."},{"start":108.72,"end":111.04,"text":"It's a very important amount of, before we get to the final budget, I want to talk to you about getting a full bill."},{"start":111.06,"end":111.16,"text":"Good."},{"start":111.18,"end":111.94,"text":"It's quite a shakeout event, isn't it?"},{"start":111.96,"end":112.06,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":112.08,"end":112.2,"text":"Great."},{"start":112.5,"end":131.93,"text":"Okay, well then let's leave it just like that, and you go on, and I'll see you again when you're gone."},{"start":131.95,"end":132.71,"text":"Because I'll be here another ten days."},{"start":132.73,"end":133.44,"text":"No, I mean, I'll be here in a week."},{"start":133.46,"end":133.9,"text":"Yeah, all right, fine."},{"start":133.92,"end":134.46,"text":"Oh, of course, I know that."},{"start":134.48,"end":137.1,"text":"I mean, as a matter of fact, there's no need to stay, because you stay three hours away if you're a second away than a whole month."},{"start":137.12,"end":137.8,"text":"Okay, fine, I'll be there for you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Secretary of the Treasury John Connally discussed the implementation schedule for a major economic policy plan, confirming the intent to proceed with their original timeline rather than accelerating it. The participants touched upon administrative logistics and the necessity of coordinating with the Joint Chiefs regarding budget preparations. They concluded the brief exchange by finalizing travel plans and affirming their commitment to the established strategic agenda.","topics":["Economic policy","Federal budget","John B. 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