Conversation 561-014

TapeTape 561StartWednesday, August 11, 1971 at 1:43 AMEndThursday, August 12, 1971 at 8:43 AMTape start time04:36:47Tape end time04:37:42ParticipantsUnited States Secret Service agents;  [Unknown person(s)]Recording deviceOval Office

United States Secret Service agents and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 1:43 am on August 11, 1971 and 8:43 am on August 12, 1971. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 561-014 of the White House Tapes.

US-People’s Republic of China [PRC] relations
             Interview with Chou En-lai
                     -Taiwan
                            -Possible People’s Republic of China [PRC] reaction
                     -President’s opinion
                            -Australia [?]

**********************************************************************

     US-People’s Republic of China [PRC] relations
         -New York Times access to White House staff
               -Edward L. Dale, Jr.
               -Religious editor
         -Interview with Chou En-lai
               -Possible public response
               -Press coverage
               -Possible administration response
                     -Letter to New York Times
                           -William P. Rogers
                           -Patrick J. Buchanan
                           -Rogers
                           -David Rockefeller
                           -Floyd [Surname unknown]
               -Possible administration response
                     -Letter
                           -Buchanan
               -President
                     -Vietnam
                           -New York Times
               -Possible effect in PRC
                     -Chou En-lai’s opposition
                           -UN
               -Possible administration response
                     -President's forthcoming trip
                           -New York Times
                     -Letter
                           -Member of Congress
                           -Rogers
               -Kissinger's conversations
                     -Australian ambassador
                     -Charles E. (“Chip”) Bohlen
                           -USSR
               -Press coverage
                      -Readership
                -Possible administration response
                      -New York Times
                      -Ziegler, Herbert G. Klein, John A. Scali
                      -Pentagon Papers
                      -Washington Post
                      -Access to White House staff
                            -Social events
                      -New York Times editorial
                      -Buchanan
                -Motive
                      -PRC trip
          -PRC trip
                -George Meany
                      -Comments
                      -Speechwriter
                            -Compared to Administration’s
                                 -Shepard
          -Reston interview
                -Impact on PRC
                      -President’s opposition
          -Dominick's statements
                -Carl T. Curtis
          -President's forthcoming trip
                -Chou En-lai's interview with Reston
                      -Diplomatic relations

     US-USSR relations
         -Kissinger's conversation with Haldeman
         -President's possible summit
               -Secrecy
                     -John D. Ehrlichman, Peter G. Peterson, Scali, Ziegler, John N. Mitchell,
                          John B. Connally, Spiro T. Agnew
               -Kissinger's forthcoming meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                     -Timing
               -Timing
                     -1972 campaign
                          -California primary
               -President’s forthcoming trip to PRC

     President's forthcoming trip to PRC
           -Timing
                 -1972 campaign
                       -Primaries
                            -New Hampshire, Florida, Wisconsin
                            -Democrats
                                  -Jackson
                            -Convention

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 9:15 am and 10:50 am.
     President’s schedule
          -Florida, California, Wisconsin

[Conversation No. 561-4A]

         -Reston interview with Chou En-lai
              -Joseph C. Kraft
              -Kissinger's schedule
              -New York Times
              -Interview with Chou En-lai
                    -Possible White House response
                         -Letter
                               -Richard A. Moore
                               -C. Douglas Dillon
                               -Robert D. Murphy
                    -Robert S. McNamara
                    -Murphy
                    -John J. McCloy
                    -Rockefeller
                    -Senate

     President's schedule
           -Forthcoming Trips to PRC and USSR
                 -Timing of announcements
                       -Kissinger’s forthcoming trip to Peking
                 -Duration
                 -Scheduling
                       -Translation problems
                 -Kissinger's conversation with Chou En-lai
                 -Berlin
                 -Timing
                       -Announcement
          -Emperor of Japan
          -Japan

     India-Pakistan
           -Kissinger's conversation with Harvard Professor, August 11, 1971
                 -Edward M. Kennedy
                 -Self-determination
                       -East Pakistan
                             -PRC
                                  -Taiwan
                                  -Tibet
           -Relief aid
                 -Rogers’ offer
                       -UN
                 -U Thant
                 -PRC
                 -Volunteer organization
     -Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with PRC ambassador
          -Kennedy
          -Hubert H. Humphrey, Edmund S. Muskie

President's schedule
      -Forthcoming trip to PRC
                  -Stopovers
                        -Wake Island
                        -San Clemente
                        -Guam
                        -Wake Island
                        -Manila
                        -Anchorage
                        -Hong Kong
                        -Taiwan
                        -Okinawa
                        -San Clemente
                  -Forthcoming trip to USSR
                        -Timing
                  -1972 campaign
                        -Primaries
                              -New Hampshire, Florida
                              -Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with PRC official
                              -Paul N. McCloskey, Jr.
                              -New Hampshire
                              -Ziegler’s possible press briefing
                                    -News coverage
            -News Stories
                  -Little Jim
                  -Reston
            -Television
                  -Analogy to moonshot
      -Forthcoming trip to USSR
            -Timing
                  -Press coverage
                        -Television
                              -PRC trip
            -Stopover
                  -Ireland
                        -John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy
                        -Britain
                        -Shannon
                        -Mulcahy’s home
                              -Preparation for summit
            -Possible meeting with allies
                  -Timing
                        -Announcement
            -1972 campaign
            -Politics
                  -Tour
                       -Israel, Africa, Ireland
           -Possible meeting with allies
                 -Location
                       -Camp David
           -Possible press conference
                 -International monetary situation
                 -Announcements
                       -Kissinger’s forthcoming trip to PRC
                             -USSR
                       -Kissinger's conversation with Chou En-lai
                             -Trip to PRC
                       -Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with PRC ambassador in Paris
                       -Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Dobrynin
           -Press
                 -Bernard Gwertzman's Story
                       -Associated Press [AP]
                       -New York Times
           -USSR note to President
                 -Announcement of President's forthcoming trip to PRC
                       -Note
                             -John Foster Dulles
           -Llewellyn E. (“Tommy”) Thompson, Jr.
                 -State Department
           -Timing of announcement
                 -Vietnam

Vietnam
     -Negotiations

President's schedule
     -Kissinger’s PRC trip
            -Timing of announcement
                  -[Emperor of Japan] Hirohito visit
            -Advance Party
                  -Secret Service
                  -Ehrlichman
            -Timing of announcement
                  -Berlin
                  -Vietnam
     -Josip Broz Tito's forthcoming visit to US
            -Trip to USSR
                  -Announcement
            -State visit
                  -Camp David
            -Dinner at Yugoslav Embassy
                  -Travel
                         -South Korea
                  -USSR
            -French
            -Camp David
          -Emilio Garrastazu Médici
          -Indira Gandhi
          -Yakubu Gowon
          -Agha Mohammad Yahya Khan
          -Forthcoming meeting
                -Talking points
                           -Possible war
                           -US involvement
                -Cambodia and Laos

     News stories concerning PRC
         -New York Times
               -Gwertzman

     President’s schedule
          -Forthcoming trip to USSR
                -Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Dobrynin

**********************************************************************

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN-T-MDR-
2014-031. Segment exempt per Executive Order 13526, 3.3(b)(1) on 05/08/2019. Archivist:
MAS]
[National Security]
[561-004-w007]
[Duration: 16s]

     USSR

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

**********************************************************************

     The President’s schedule
          -Forthcoming trip to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
                -Announcement
                      -Confidentiality
                      -President’s schedule
                -Dobrynin
                      -Contact with State Department
                -Rogers
                -Credit
          -President's forthcoming trip to PRC
                -Rogers
                      -Reports
                            -Richard V. (“Dick”) Allen
Rogers
    -Melvin R. Laird
    -National Security Council [NSC] meeting
         -PRC
               -UN representation
               -Vietnam
Foreign policy
     -Vision
           -PRC compared to USSR
           -Gen. Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle
           -British statesmen
                 -Winston Churchill
                 -Connally’s view

PRC
      -State Department
            -Rogers
                  -UN representation
                       -Impact on Taiwan
                  -Conversation with Scali
                       -Ping-pong diplomacy
            -Role
                  -Messages
                  -Warsaw talks
                       -President’s instructions to Walter J. Stoessel, Jr.
                             -PRC ambassador to Warsaw
                                  -Chou En-lai’s comment to Kissinger

State Department
      -Role in policy formulation
            -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
            -Cambodia and Laos
            -Jordan
      -Possible press stories
            -Liberals
            -PRC
President's forthcoming trip to USSR
      -Kissinger's possible backgrounder
      -President’s backgrounder
            -Andrei A. Gromyko
      -Possible backgrounder
            -Announcement
                  -President's forthcoming trip to PRC
      -Possible impact
            -Compared to PRC trip

President's foreign policy
     -Critics
            -Accuracy
                  -Anti-ballistic missiles [ABM]
                          -SALT
                     -PRC trip
                          -USSR
                     -Jordan
           -1972 campaign
           -Vietnam

The President left at an unknown time before 10:50 pm.

     Vietnam
          -USSR
          -Election
                -Congress' schedule

     Kissinger’s schedule
          -PRC
                -Press

Kissinger left and the President entered at 10:50 am.

     US foreign policy
          -President’s forthcoming trip to USSR
                -Compared to PRC trip
          -Kissinger's advice
          -State Department
                -Rogers
                      -Strategic thinking
                      -PRC
                      -USSR
          -Rogers's conversation with Haldeman
                -SALT
                      -Invitation to Brezhnev
                -President's possible visit to European Economic Community [EEC]
          -Public opinion
                -Europe, Latin America, Africa
                -Israel
                -India-Pakistan
                -Biafra
                      -Compared to Pakistan
          -Strategic thinking
                -Rogers
                      -State Department
                      -Kissinger and the President
                            -NSC meetings
                -State Department
                -PRC
                -USSR
                -Great Britain
          -Rogers
     President's forthcoming trip to USSR
           -Secrecy
                 -Kissinger
                 -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                 -Winston Lord
           -Dobrynin meeting
                       -Helicopter
                            -Mt. Vernon
                                  -Boat
                 -Importance

Ziegler entered at 10:58 am.

     Ziegler's forthcoming press briefing
          -Ziegler's conversation with John N. Mitchell
                 -Forthcoming announcement
                       -Press conference
          -Ziegler’s possible comments
                 -John V. Lindsay
                       -Ziegler's forthcoming call to Nelson A. Rockefeller
                       -Vietnam
          -George C. Wallace
                 -Statement on August 11, 1971 concerning busing
                       -President’s cabinet
          -Busing
                 -President’s position
                 -Supreme Court's ruling
                       -Dual school system
                       -Compulsion
                 -Congress
                       -Use of federal funds
                 -President's orders
                       -Elliot L. Richardson, Mitchell
                       -Violation
                             -Consequences
          -George Meany
                 -President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
          -President's forthcoming visit to PRC
                 -Reston's interview with Chou En-Lai
                       -Chou En-lai's conversation with Kissinger
                 -President's objective
          -White House facilities
                 -Usage
                       -Public perception

     Press
             -New York Times, Washington Post
                  -Access to White House staff
                       -Edward Dale
                  -Possible calls
                       -handling
                 -[Pentagon Papers]
                 -Klein
                 -Scali

     Ziegler's forthcoming press briefing
                 -1972 campaign
                 -President’s recent trip
                       -Mudd report
                 -McIntyre
                       -[Forename unknown] Gergis [sp?]

The President talked with Harmon Killebrew between 11:10 am and 11:15 am.

[Conversation No. 561-4B]

[See Conversation No. 7-87]

               -Schedule
                     -Minnesota Twins
           -Washington [Senators] fans
           -Comments by Tricia Nixon Cox and Julie Nixon Eisenhower

     Bob Allison
         -Activities
               -Commentary
         -Senators

     Killebrew
           -Recreation
                -Gift from President
                      -Golf ball

[End of telephone conversation]

Ziegler left at 11:16 am.

     Gift for Killebrew

     Killebrew’s home run
           -White House notification

     President's schedule
           -Bowlers
           -Auto racers

     President's forthcoming trip to USSR
           -Kissinger's reaction
           -Buchanan
           -PRC
             -Foreign policy
                  -Importance

     National economy
          -Popular opinion
          -President's forthcoming conversation with George P. Shultz
     Polls
             -Louis Harris
                  -Possible questions
                        -Budget allocations
                             -Defense
                                   -USSR
                                   -Compared to housing, education, environment
                        -Taxes
             -Domestic Council
                  -Edwin L. Harper
                        -Popular view concerning federal spending
             -Federal spending
                  -Taxes
                  -Prices
                  -Programs

     National economy
          -Unemployment
                -Date of release of government statistics

     Speechwriting
          -Shepard
               -Writer

     President's forthcoming speeches
           -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                 -Knights of Columbus
           -President’s meeting with Shultz
           -John K. Andrews, Jr.
                 -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]
           -Price
                 -Radio talks

     President's schedule
          -Ehrlichman

**********************************************************************

[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/04/2020.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[561-004-w010]
[Duration: 1m 10s]
      1972 campaign
             -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s possible efforts
                     -John B. Connally [?]
                     -Efforts similar to those done by Charles W. Colson
                             -Set up operations in critical states
                     -Need to react to press stories
                             -White House reaction
                             -Reaction of campaign’s state chairmen
                             -Importance of television news stories
                                     -Compared to newspaper stories

**********************************************************************

    Religion in US
         -Graham’s recent visit
         -Implications
               -President's conversation with Graham, August 10, 1971
               -Shepard’s comment
                     -Public mail

    President's speechwriters
         -Price's view
         -Shepard
                -Leader class

    Graham
         -Audience

    Leader class
         -Education
               -Impact on religious views
         -Views concerning emotion
               -Pragmatism
                     -Cowardice
         -Mulcahy
         -Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
         -Peter G. Peterson
               -Meetings
         -Ministers
         -College presidents
               -Kent State University
         -Softness
               -Environment
               -Consumers
               -Blacks
         -Flanigan
               -Ehrlichman
               -Business
                    -Consumers
                    -Environment
               -Environment
          -Environment
               -Whitaker
               -Russell E. Train

     George H.W. Bush
          -Performance
          -Possible actions
                -Public speaking
                     -President as world leader
                -Bohemian Grove

     Graham
          -View
               -Connally
               -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

**********************************************************************

[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/04/2020.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[561-004-w011]
[Duration: 2m 53s]

      Spiro T. Agnew
             -President’s conversation with William F. (“Billy”) Graham, August 10, 1971
             -Bryce N. Harlow’s views
                     -Korea
             -John N. Mitchell’s views
                     -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s opinion
                             -Fear of John B. Connally
                             -John B. Connally’s relationship with administration
             -Political support
                     -Recent Republican National Committee [RNC] meeting
                     -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s opinion
                             -Republican’s support for Spiro T. Agnew
                             -Advantages and disadvantages
             -Continuance in office
                     -Replacement on ticket
                             -John B. Connally
                             -Ronald W. Reagan
                             -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                             -John B. Connally

**********************************************************************
     National economy
          -President's forthcoming program
                -Impact
                -Connally's role
                      -Wage price freeze
                      -Foreign monetary policy
                -President's possible role
                -Connally’s possible speech
                      -Timing
                            -Prime time compared to new time
                -Hobart Rowen's article, August 11, 1971
                      -Devaluation
                            -International Monetary Fund [IMF]
                            -Dollar’s possible behavior
                                  -Effect on domestic economy
          -Devaluation
                -International monetary situation
                      -Connally
                      -Psychological effect
                            -Henry S. Reuss committee report
                                  -Shultz's conversation with his son
                            -Popular opinion
                -Rowen's article
                      -Canada, West Germany
                            -Action
          -President's forthcoming program
                -Connally
                      -Politics

     President's schedule
           -Ehrlichman

Haldeman left at 11:40 am.

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Grazie a tutti.
Oh, c'è chi c'è.