Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 563 › Conversation 563-004

Nixon & Ziegler on Economic policy and Camp David

Friday, August 13, 1971 · 12:16 PM–12:18 PM ET · Oval Office · 57 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation563-004 on Tape 563 (tape position 01:08:40–01:10:01)StartFriday, August 13, 1971 at 12:16 PMEndFriday, August 13, 1971 at 12:18 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 563-004 ↗

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President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler met to finalize scheduling and strategic messaging for an upcoming meeting at Camp David. The discussion centered on the 'Quadriad' economic summit and the broader coordination of budget and economic planning. They addressed concerns regarding public perception and potential economic leaks, with Nixon emphasizing the importance of managing the administration's narrative on these financial matters.

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And uh, said that we had a, we had a clock that had to be scheduled at 7 and I decided to

And, uh, you'll be out there working on a disassociation budget planning and motivation for the weekend.

And if you don't say anything about the quadrants, are they going to spend any money?

I don't know.

Are you thinking anybody's going to spend any money?

Yes, I think so.

There's a nice setting for their schedules for that.

And the president is not going to be excited to make sure it goes on his head.

He's not going to be excited to make sure it goes on his head.

The story hasn't moved, but it's still a problem.

The budget and economics.

I guess that's the last part of this one, right?

I mean, I'll try to open it up.

NARA Description

On August 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:16 pm to 12:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 563-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 563-4

Date: August 13, 1971
Time: 12:16 pm - 12:18 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

      President's schedule
            -Quadriad
                  -Ziegler's conversation with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                  -Camp David
                  -Budget and economic planning

Ziegler left at 12:18 pm.

Also recorded on August 13, 1971

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563-006 12:29 PM · 1 hr 17 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Rose Mary Woods, White House operator, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Stephen B. Bull, Manolo Sanchez, John N. Mitchell, John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz, Edward L. Morgan, and Bruce A. Kehrli met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:29 pm to 1:45 pm.
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007-115 12:33 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:33 pm and 1:47 pm.
563-007 1:45 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:45 pm and 1:47 pm.
563-008 1:45 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:45 pm and 1:47 pm.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 563-004, August 13, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/563-004 (accessed October 9, 2026).